Really? There are discussions about open pilot being native? I don't think you've done your research. First of all this is a VW/rivian/"scout" it's not a scout. I've owned international scouts, this is not the same thing, never will be. You know what they want to do? Sell vehicles. You know what I want? An electric platform that has a four cylinder generator that's hopefully comfortable and easy to work on. One that doesn't cost a fortune. We'll see if scout can do that because nobody else has so far. They've all over promised and under delivered. I also drive 6,000 miles a month so I would like self-driving. The first platform that gets me what I need, is who gets my money. If you don't want self-driving, don't use it pretty simple. But I can tell you this if they don't come up with self-driving they just spent a lot of money for nothing. You are the minority in the population and that minority is shrinking. It would be a waste of billions of dollars if they don't compete in today/tomorrow market with the options that everyone else has and are coming out with.
You seem to enjoy hitting me aggressively as is your right. I’ve been on here for a very long time and just conveying the conversations on this forum. We are each permitted to have opinions but this is a vehicle capable of off-roading at its core. If SM wanted an automous vehicle I don’t think their public face would be so strongly positioned toward connection to the vehicle. And after two solid years of a very solid early marketing campaign one would think they might have mentioned that by now! I think a Tesla might be your best bet but your vehicle-your choice.
I completely agree and that’s what drew me to Scout. Self driving has never been on my radar and I wouldn’t buy it even if it was offered.
That's why Open Pilot would be a great. Because you don't have to install the software if you don't want to. I find that people that don't drive very often and I've never used any sort of driver assistance because they drive all the time don't want self-driving. I used to say why would I ever want self-driving. Now that I drive as much as I do I want it more than ever. Things change. Nice to have options.
I still don’t want it. I’m disappointed virtually no manual transmissions are made any more and then to take away the joy of driving is sad for many of us. You do you but I personally don’t see Scout going autonomous and based on the roughly 80,000 reservations and no mention of Autonomous to date I do t think the majority of Scout fans care. Many others have come on here fresh and jumped in on SM failing unless they went gas/ICE and that hasn’t changed yet either. Guess we will all wait and see.
I completely agree. I would not want a third party software in my Scout that had not been thoroughly tested by Scout. But again, just me and yes we will just have to wait and see.
All I’m asking for is adaptive cruise control. The whole hands off self driving kind of spooks me.
Sounds like you should buy an original scout with a manual transmission. And a reservations mean nothing, just ask Tesla and Ford who only fulfilled 10% of those reservations. There are a lot of people like me who want a platform and expecting a manufacturer to do something that they say they're going to do. Creating a vehicle without the option of current and future technology is a death sentence. That's been proven by the current state of things. Like I said that's the beauty of open pilot. They can outfit their vehicles with the hardware which is inexpensive. And if you choose not to download the software that's entirely up to you and you can drive as much as you want. But it opens them up to getting other customers like me who want driving assistance. So are you saying that if they do something like that that you won't buy a scout because it has the capability of self-driving even if you don't have to use it?
They can test it. Open Pilot is only the second largest automated driving system in the world. And I will have their equipment and their open software in my truck monday. Once again in case you missed it you don't have to download the software. But having that capability and having camera systems built into run it would be great.
So if your vehicle came with the ability to do it if you decide to download software would that be a problem for you? I think it would be more of a problem if life circumstances changed and you found yourself having to drive a lot for some reason. And then you wanted it and didn't have the ability to do it. I mean I'm purchasing a comma 3x to run in my Ford F-150 hybrid that has driver assist but I don't want to grab the steering wheel all the time. That will allow me not to do that without having to pay a subscription fee.
So that's essentially what Open Pilot is. But I believe it has the ability to go full self-driving because it's a living advancable software. It is only limited by what the vehicle is capable of as far as hardware. It would be great if you guys would look into integration with them. I think it would save you a lot of money, time and hassle trying to reinvent or duplicate the wheel. Future upgrades would be done as time progresses on their own. And just got motors VW or rivian wouldn't have to pay for the time and development of that. I think it is something to seriously consider. Just like using Android auto and apple carplay. Same principle. Why come up with your own navigation system when it's built in native on everyone's phones and that's what most people use anyway. I'd like to see Open Pilot, as well as scout motors integrate with Android auto or Apple carplay.
