Switching Harvester to All EV Model?

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Technically it could be lumped in under 'Plug-in Hybrid' (PHEV) because it has a plug whereas a traditional hybrid (like the Prius) cannot be plugged-in but whatever.
That is a true statement but I don’t think helpful in this context. The many plug-in hybrids sold today are parallel hybrids, calling the Harvester a plug-in hybrid while literally true risks causing confusion. The parallel/series distinction is the important one. BTW, there is a plug-in version of the Prius.
 
That is a true statement but I don’t think helpful in this context. The many plug-in hybrids sold today are parallel hybrids, calling the Harvester a plug-in hybrid while literally true risks causing confusion. The parallel/series distinction is the important one. BTW, there is a plug-in version of the Prius.
Agreed.

And there is now, but when you say "Prius" to someone they tend to picture the frumpy car from 25 years ago at doesn't plug in.
 
One thing I will mention is that my plan from the get go is to compare the Terra Total EV to the Riven in 2028. If Rivian continues to add range and ev battery technology and SM puts to much energy into the Harvester and slacks on EV then I may go Riv.
For what its worth Scaringe confirmed the R2 will NOT have 800V architecture. They also havent confirmed if the R1S or R1T will be getting 800V in the next few years and feels 400V is currently fast enough.

Scout will be launching with 800V. That will help "future-proof" your purchase and offer faster charging times down the road.
 
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For what its worth Scaringe confirmed the R2 will NOT have 800V architecture. They also havent confirmed if the R1s or r1T will be getting 800V in the next few years and feels 400V is currently fast enough.

Scout will be launching with 800V. That will help "future-proof" your purchase and offer faster charging times down the road.
Great information!
 
For what its worth Scaringe confirmed the R2 will NOT have 800V architecture. They also havent confirmed if the R1s or r1T will be getting 800V in the next few years and feels 400V is currently fast enough.

Scout will be launching with 800V. That will help "future-proof" your purchase and offer faster charging times down the road.
Yes, a huge point. Waiting 15 minutes to charge isn’t that much longer than a gas stop, especially if my wife and I have to go in one at a time to pee. Waiting 30 minutes makes it unacceptable to us. If Scout was 400V we probably would not be interested.
 
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Yes, a huge point. Waiting 15 minutes to charge isn’t that much longer than a gas stop, especially if my wife and I have to go in one at a time to pee. Waiting 30 minutes makes it unacceptable to us. If Scout was 400V we probably would not be interested.
From what I gather, 400V architecture means a nominal pack voltage between 250ish to 400ish, while an 800V architecture means >450V (eg 550V for Kia ev9 small battery option). I expect scout will be closer to 800 though. Also note that Tesla chargers don’t do 800V (yet?) so 800V cars typically charge faster at non Tesla chargers.
 
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From what I gather, 400V architecture means a nominal pack voltage between 250ish to 400ish, while an 800V architecture means >450V (eg 550V for Kia ev9 small battery option). I expect scout will be closer to 800 though. Also note that Tesla chargers don’t do 800V (yet?) so 800V cars typically charge faster at non Tesla chargers.
The newest Tesla Superchargers are 800V but there aren't many of those deployed yet, the overwhelming majority of Superchargers are indeed 400V. But with networks like Ionna, Electrify Canada/America, and others providing 350 kW chargers there will be plenty of high speed chargers that these vehicles will be able to use and there are already a decent amount of them out there today.
 
From what I gather, 400V architecture means a nominal pack voltage between 250ish to 400ish, while an 800V architecture means >450V (eg 550V for Kia ev9 small battery option). I expect scout will be closer to 800 though. Also note that Tesla chargers don’t do 800V (yet?) so 800V cars typically charge faster at non Tesla chargers.
Yes about Tesla chargers. Are they rolling out units that can do 350 kW but not at 800V? I have not thought about the voltage aspect, dumbly thinking a 350 kW charger would be new enough to do anything up to the 800V range.

And I did not mean to imply that 800V will always charge twice as fast as 400V. 350 kW at 800V is 1/2 the current so less heat, easier on the battery cooling, probably a much better charging curve. I don’t see us ever using a charger that can’t deliver 350 kW or whatever is close to the Scout max except for maybe an opportunistic fill at a lunch stop. A big factor in us sticking to the Harvester.
 
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Yes about Tesla chargers. Are they rolling out units that can do 350 kW but not at 800V? I have not thought about the voltage aspect, dumbly thinking a 350 kW charger would be new enough to do anything up to the 800V range.

And I did not mean to imply that 800V will always charge twice as fast as 400V. 350 kW at 800V is 1/2 the current so less heat, easier on the battery cooling, probably a much better charging curve. I don’t see us ever using a charger that can’t deliver 350 kW or whatever is close to the Scout max except for maybe an opportunistic fill at a lunch stop. A big factor in us sticking to the Harvester.
No, the new Superchargers do 800V, I think they may even be higher than that. They just haven't really started deploying them yet.
 
For what its worth Scaringe confirmed the R2 will NOT have 800V architecture. They also havent confirmed if the R1s or r1T will be getting 800V in the next few years and feels 400V is currently fast enough.

Scout will be launching with 800V. That will help "future-proof" your purchase and offer faster charging times down the road.
Another step in the right direction for Scout for future and for buying perk over a Rivian