Paddle Shifters For Adjusting Regen

[Variable430]

Currently have an EQS and have zero love for one pedal driving. The EQS has paddle shifters to adjust the level of brake regen manually and on the fly - effectively it serves as a synthetic down shift and provides a much more interactive driving experience. I believe the Ioniq has this as well. Please strongly consider adopting this technology and it should include the ability to completely disengage regeneration as one of the modes.

 

[oldgeeksguide]

Currently have an EQS and have zero love for one pedal driving. The EQS has paddle shifters to adjust the level of brake regen manually and on the fly - effectively it serves as a synthetic down shift and provides a much more interactive driving experience. I believe the Ioniq has this as well. Please strongly consider adopting this technology and it should include the ability to completely disengage regeneration as one of the modes.

Agreed! This prob my favorite feature on Kia/hyundai vehicles.

 

[DaveGunter]

Agreed! This prob my favorite feature on Kia/hyundai vehicles.

+1 Not a fan of 1PD, Not familiar with regen in the Mercedes, but Hyundai/Kia nailed it with their regen setup

 

[Scout4x4]

I disagree. I don't want to clutter up the IP with paddle shifters. This is a truck (or SUV), not a sports car. If they are going to offer multiple regent levels that should be a setting in a menu, most people will find what they like and leave it on that setting.
I for one love one pedal driving. It takes a minute to get use to it, but then once you get it, it is a far more intuitive way to drive.

 

[J Alynn]

I’ve had paddles on several sport sedans and now our Honda Pilot has it and I still find myself using it quite a bit so I’d still be up for paddle shifters

 

[Tyler88]

I disagree with the paddle shifters for regen, I prefer to change it once in the screen and never touch it again. Since that is how our Tesla is and what I have learn that if you get used to full regen and the vehicle stopping and holding in place automatically it is weird going back to a car that doesn't do that also at full regen you will be getting the best range.

 

[ThatOneRoadie]

I've driven a number of different regen systems for EV's and PHEV's.

Toyota's system of "Brake-by-wire" / Regen on the brake pedal is the best for "new to EV" drivers to use. The car/computer does some regen when lifting the gas pedal (iirc on the 2008 Prius, it's about 2kW of Regen, to simulate engine drag), and then up to the maximum (20kW) of regen when slowly stepping on the brakes, with a blending of the physical brakes.

Tesla's system of "Full Regen when the accelerator is released" / One-Pedal Driving is the best if you understand it, but does take some getting used to. However, being able to accelerate and/or get the full 76kW of regen on the brake pedal, if you have the setting enabled, is nice.

I think a happy medium is similar to what's done on the Clarity or Volt; the paddle on the rear of the wheel is used for regen braking, with the same off-accelerator partial-regen of a Toyota or Tesla (with regen/OPD set to low) when lifting off the accelerator, the paddle used to manually control regen amount, and the brake pedal used to control physical brakes. I'd agree with wanting paddles, or at least one paddle a-la the Volt, to manually control regen and get the most into the battery that I can without wasting some energy in the friction brakes.

 

[Variable430]

I disagree. I don't want to clutter up the IP with paddle shifters. This is a truck (or SUV), not a sports car. If they are going to offer multiple regent levels that should be a setting in a menu, most people will find what they like and leave it on that setting.
I for one love one pedal driving. It takes a minute to get use to it, but then once you get it, it is a far more intuitive way to drive.

Burying something mission critical menu is unsafe. In our i4 you can switch regen modes w the gear shifter and in the eqs there are paddles. Plenty of sports SUVs have paddles. Not sure why it should bother anyone, if you don’t want to use it, set it and forget but many of us hate one pedal, it’s why Porsche EVs are engineered without regen as the default and that car doesn’t have paddles. Point being, provide the option and flexibility so people aren’t forced into a specific drive style.

 

[Variable430]

I disagree with the paddle shifters for regen, I prefer to change it once in the screen and never touch it again. Since that is how our Tesla is and what I have learn that if you get used to full regen and the vehicle stopping and holding in place automatically it is weird going back to a car that doesn't do that also at full regen you will be getting the best range.

This amongst many reasons is why I would never be caught dead in a Tesla

 

[dreamweaver]

This amongst many reasons is why I would never be caught dead in a Tesla

The paddle shifters in my new Lincoln take a little of the screen from the drivers view. That's my 2 cents worth.

 

[AlanL]

I disagree. I don't want to clutter up the IP with paddle shifters. This is a truck (or SUV), not a sports car. If they are going to offer multiple regent levels that should be a setting in a menu, most people will find what they like and leave it on that setting.
I for one love one pedal driving. It takes a minute to get use to it, but then once you get it, it is a far more intuitive way to drive.

Paddle shifters are hugely convenient for towing. We tow a 3400 lb travel trailer with a Honda Pilot and manually downshift on grades to control speed. We can go down 6% without touching the brakes, 8% with not much use of the brakes, just tweaking the paddle shifters.

 

[oldgeeksguide]

The paddle shifters in my new Lincoln take a little of the screen from the drivers view. That's my 2 cents worth.

The ones I’ve tried in Hyundai/kia vehicles don’t block anything.

 

[J Alynn]

The ones I’ve tried in Hyundai/kia vehicles don’t block anything.

I really like the paddle shifters in our Pilot as well as did I like them in our previous Acura MDX

 

[R1TVT]

I rarely change regen settings on a drive for any reason. I have no problem with people wanting them, but would never use them (as long as you can adjust the regen and the drive modes). in fact, I think the ONLY time I ever do change regen settings is when I go into SNOW MODE. That is it.

 

[bsddrake]

Hopefully it will be an easy thing to change. My wife does one petal driving every time, and I have it set to use the brake pedal for regen and the lightest regen setting when you let off the accelerator (the closes to normal ICE engine drag). I also personally like it to creep forward when I let off the brake.

 

[Albal]

I think the as-delivered setup should be as close to an automatic transmission ICE car as possible, including forward creep when letting off the brake. That is what most of the buyers will be coming from. Paddles are a big plus and out of the way for those that don't want them. One-pedal can be activated on-screen and/or by "downshifting" using padels until you're in "first gear".

 

[KDot]

Currently have an EQS and have zero love for one pedal driving. The EQS has paddle shifters to adjust the level of brake regen manually and on the fly - effectively it serves as a synthetic down shift and provides a much more interactive driving experience. I believe the Ioniq has this as well. Please strongly consider adopting this technology and it should include the ability to completely disengage regeneration as one of the modes.

Love this feature on my Hyundai Ioniq 5. I find myself using the paddles multiple times during a drive, especially when going into and coming out of corners. It makes the driving experience more fun

 

[R1TVT]

Love this feature on my Hyundai Ioniq 5. I find myself using the paddles multiple times during a drive, especially when going into and coming out of corners. It makes the driving experience more fun

I had paddle shifters in a V6 Audi sportback with Quattro when I was younger. When driving around in a "sporting" mood, they were fun for that sort of stuff. In a large, heavy truck like the R1T (and based driving lots of other trucks), paddles shifters are a lot less appealing, but maybe I'm just getting old. I tend to drive trucks very differently than cars though.

 

[Cranky Canuck]

I agree with the OP. I've driven many electric and electrified vehicles and in my opinion Hyundai/Kia have perfected it. My Ioniq 5 has paddles that can increase or decrease the aggressiveness of the regen. You can use them to regen on the fly by holding them down but more often you use them to set different levels of regen.

They also allow you to put the regen into one-pedal mode or "auto regen" mode (which is what I prefer) where the vehicle uses the cameras and radars to dynamically adjust the regen based on what's happening in front of the vehicle. The paddles only impact the regen felt while 'coasting', the regen is always engaged with the brake pedals regardless of the regen mode you have set (unlike how Tesla does it where the accelerator is regen and the brake pedals do friction brakes). To me this is the best way of doing things because individual drivers can customize their driving experience to exactly how they like it.

If you want one-pedal like a Tesla you can do that. If you want to coast like a combustion car you can do that too. If you want progressively more aggressive deceleration you can choose from one of three levels (which is nice if you're going down steep hills). And if you want the car to adjust how aggressively slows down based on whether you have open road or traffic in front of you it can do that too.

I'd strongly suggest the Scout engineers test drive some Kia/Hyundai EVs and make take liberal notes and borrow a lot of inspiration from how they do it because I think Hyundai/Kia have nailed it on their E-GMP cars.

 

[J Alynn]

I had paddle shifters in a V6 Audi sportback with Quattro when I was younger. When driving around in a "sporting" mood, they were fun for that sort of stuff. In a large, heavy truck like the R1T (and based driving lots of other trucks), paddles shifters are a lot less appealing, but maybe I'm just getting old. I tend to drive trucks very differently than cars though.

Our honda pilot has paddles and I use it regularly. But if/when I have 1-pedal driving