Optional Third Row

[CGrooms]

Wondering if a stow-able or removable third row seat is being considered?Maybe even a rear facing jump seat. The option for the additional seating capacity would be great, even if that third row is only suitable for children.

 

[J Alynn]

Please please please, have a 3rd row option. This will be a deal breaker for many people.

It’s been implied they are leaving room for a larger model-travelall that will be 3-row with easy size up. If you look at the size of the traveler compared to other 3 rows it’s actually on the small side and 3rd row would be nearly useless. While my wife and I have owned numerous 3-rows and nearly never used them I’d have to say the 3-row in this particular vehicle is a bad idea. Very few people have requested it and SM has implied the bench seat option picks up the spare seat most people need like one or two times a year.
We currently have a Honda pilot. ?‍ very Xmas we picked up my parents so I agreed to crawl in the third row. I’m 5’-11” and couldn’t even sit facing front and interior dimension-wise I think the Traveller is a few inches shorter.
Just my personal opinion though

 

[jmthompson5]

How about rails in the floor to secure a 3rd row seat Or hold other things down (ie something inspired by the 2nd gen Xterra):

 

[jasonboyles1]

The demo model used during the reveal is the right size. A third row would stretch out the wheelbase longer and likely impact the harvester generator. 2 row works for me.

 

[J Alynn]

How about rails in the floor to secure a 3rd row seat Or hold other things down (ie something inspired by the 2nd gen Xterra):
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Great for bikes but imagine getting a solid enough seat anchor would be a risk /liability

 

[TBSLLC]

A third row would be a great option! Not everyone needs it, but it is frowned upon in most societies to leave small children at home.

 

[J Alynn]

A third row would be a great option! Not everyone needs it, but it is frowned upon in most societies to leave small children at home.

It has already been noted that the traveller will likely not have 3rd row. They mentioned a larger vehicle in the short future.
The traveler is a few inches shorter than a Honda pilot. Having one I can say the third row in pilot is virtually useless even for a 12 year old so being even shorter would make third row nearly useless. I think knowing a travelall as a larger vehicle will follow is the better way to approach a third row

 

[Logan]

It has already been noted that the traveller will likely not have 3rd row. They mentioned a larger vehicle in the short future.
The traveler is a few inches shorter than a Honda pilot. Having one I can say the third row in pilot is virtually useless even for a 12 year old so being even shorter would make third row nearly useless. I think knowing a travelall as a larger vehicle will follow is the better way to approach a third row

100% agree.

It's also 4in smaller than the Toyota Highlander, which does have a 3rd row. But that third row has 28in of legroom. The Nissan Pathfinder is ~7 in longer than the Traveler, but also has 28in of legroom in that third row. The Tesla Model Y had 26.5in of legroom in the third row, and is 3in shorter than the Traveler.

But, uh, none of these are known for their spacious third rows. In fact, the Model Y's optional third row, is uh, laughably small.

The upside, is that the Traveler is quite wide. It's 2-3in wider than those, which means that the bench seat middle rows will be quite a bit more comfortable. Especially if it can pull off a "tardis" sort of situation (some vehicles manage to somehow be large on the outside, and small on the inside, I'd like the reverse of that).

 

[steven_s]

When this goes into production I'll be ready to upgrade from my Land Rover Defender. Three row is essential for me! I can make 7 passenger work but 8 passenger is ideal and would be class leading for an EV! Currently large families do not have an EV option! Make it 8 passengers and I'll be driving one of these in Fort Wayne... home of the original Scout!

 

[J Alynn]

When this goes into production I'll be ready to upgrade from my Land Rover Defender. Three row is essential for me! I can make 7 passenger work but 8 passenger is ideal and would be class leading for an EV! Currently large families do not have an EV option! Make it 8 passengers and I'll be driving one of these in Fort Wayne... home of the original Scout!

As of now there isn’t an intent to offer a third row-it would be VERY tight. That said, there’s been multiple hints that the next model in line up may be a 3-row-and likely go by the Travelall name

 

[cyure]

As of now there isn’t an intent to offer a third row-it would be VERY tight. That said, there’s been multiple hints that the next model in line up may be a 3-row-and likely go by the Travelall name

And I’m completely the opposite. Don’t want a 3rd row in the slightest. I swear is like Goldilocks and the 3 Bears trying to find the car that’s just right and Scout just has to do their best to make a quality vehicle that appeals to a wide variety of drivers.

 

[BleedNRed]

A third row would be a great option! Not everyone needs it, but it is frowned upon in most societies to leave small children at home.

The Traveler fits six people with a bench seat in front. If you have more than four children, perhaps you should be looking at a different vehicle?

 

[J Alynn]

The Traveler fits six people with a bench seat in front. If you have more than four children, perhaps you should be looking at a different vehicle?

I’d say hold out a few years and presume a travelall will be shortly behind the launch vehicles ?

 

[LastDayScout]

I’d say hold out a few years and presume a travelall will be shortly behind the launch vehicles ?

I concur. Travelall should be coming next after the Traveler and Terra.

 

[bsddrake]

For what it's worth, the Traveller (190.9in)is less than 6 inches shorter than my LandCruiser (196in), and that removable/foldable 3rd is brilliant in a pinch. I've even had a 6ft teenager back there on a 3h trip and it was ok. Half the time we only have one seat down and use the other side for cargo. You can also remove them and use the hard points that the seats attach to as tie-downs. If this were an option, I'd 100% be getting it, even if the seats spend half their lives in the garage on a shelf.

 

[J Alynn]

For what it's worth, the Traveller (190.9in)is less than 6 inches shorter than my LandCruiser (196in), and that removable/foldable 3rd is brilliant in a pinch. I've even had a 6ft teenager back there on a 3h trip and it was ok. Half the time we only have one seat down and use the other side for cargo. You can also remove them and use the hard points that the seats attach to as tie-downs. If this were an option, I'd 100% be getting it, even if the seats spend half their lives in the garage on a shelf.

Our pilot is 199” long, I’m 5’-11” and the back seat ride for 20 minutes was horrible. I can’t speak for your teenage but I’m gonna say he’s a saint because I there is no way I’d willingly ride in the third row again. If they could get a side mount aftermarket seat to work and pass crash test I’d say it’s a great option. But why force a nearly useless third row when Scout has all but publicly commented the next vehicle will likely be a larger 3-row. Better to wait and benefit from a useable, practical approach then force something that very few people will use in this size vehicle and probably cause more complaints and disgruntled buyers than earn 3- row buyers who actually need it. There is also the hassle of folding them or just leaving them down and carrying unnecessary weight while folded down or trying to have a flat load area in the rear that now gets reworked to satisfy a very low take rate. I imagine if Scout puts as much thought into a future 3-row as they have the two current designs the 3rd row vehicle will be a home run.

 

[bsddrake]

Our pilot is 199” long, I’m 5’-11” and the back seat ride for 20 minutes was horrible. I can’t speak for your teenage but I’m gonna say he’s a saint because I there is no way I’d willingly ride in the third row again. If they could get a side mount aftermarket seat to work and pass crash test I’d say it’s a great option. But why force a nearly useless third row when Scout has all but publicly commented the next vehicle will likely be a larger 3-row. Better to wait and benefit from a useable, practical approach then force something that very few people will use in this size vehicle and probably cause more complaints and disgruntled buyers than earn 3- row buyers who actually need it. There is also the hassle of filing them or just leaving them down and carrying unnecessary weight while folded down or trying to have a flat load area in the rear that now gets reworked to satisfy a very low take rate. I imagine if Scout puts as much thought into a future 3-row as they have the two current designs the 3rd row vehicle will be a home run.

I think the only part that would be standard is the correctly shaped hard points to mount the seats. The fold-up/removable seats are optional on the LandCruiser, and that's how I'd imagine it for the Traveller. So in case I wasn't clear: I'm talking about an option to add the seats. The mounting points would be standard, but they are just recessed tie down points when the seats aren't there.

And yes, I could see her knees poking up over the back of the 2nd row in the rearview mirror. I guess having a row to herself was more important than not being folded up in the back. I don't know how the pilot is designed, so I can't comment on that seat.