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What they’ve been showing definitely isn’t gonna be $60 unfortunately. I’m guessing traveler as shown with tire carrier and 350 mile range will be pushing $78-$85K. Reality is there isn’t much more they can add to the prototypes (other than suspension/off-road packages. So they are kinda maxed out on options so they have to be near the upper end of range. Just the reality of tariff pricing with so much steel and metal in the vehicles
One thing I keep forgetting that should help in the price department is no dealer. There’s no middleman so that should help the cost not be as high.
 
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One thing I keep forgetting that should help in the price department is no dealer. There’s no middleman so that should help the cost not be as high.
That’s true and I was thinking about that yesterday as well because I wonder how much that actually does save. I’ve assumed no dealer offsets the premium cost of battery but maybe my thinking is off on that
 
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That’s true and I was thinking about that yesterday as well because I wonder how much that actually does save. I’ve assumed no dealer offsets the premium cost of battery but maybe my thinking is off on that
And wouldn’t Scout have more bargaining power than a startup like Rivian did. I know the tariffs are a wildcard in that, but I would still think it would have to be in their favor to have that behind them.
 
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The problem with the no dealer should lower costs idea is that the only DTC models we have are for luxury (Lucid, Rivian) or pretend luxury (Tesla) manufacturers. Their prices are just very high.

The plus side is that we can be reasonably sure there won't be major differences in price based on location. There's a standard $5k "market adjustment" on almost all vehicles in my town because there's only one dealer per brand, at most.
 
The problem with the no dealer should lower costs idea is that the only DTC models we have are for luxury (Lucid, Rivian) or pretend luxury (Tesla) manufacturers. Their prices are just very high.

The plus side is that we can be reasonably sure there won't be major differences in price based on location. There's a standard $5k "market adjustment" on almost all vehicles in my town because there's only one dealer per brand, at most.
Yep, I hate arguing about that with dealers.
 
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There are a lot of optimists here. Everyone automatically assumes the cost savings will be passed along to the consumer. We have no idea what it's going to cost. There's nothing to stop them from pocketing that money and saying we're getting a better deal. I'm hoping the answer lies somewhere in the middle. It's a little better for Scout, and a little better for the buyers.
 
There are a lot of optimists here. Everyone automatically assumes the cost savings will be passed along to the consumer. We have no idea what it's going to cost. There's nothing to stop them from pocketing that money and saying we're getting a better deal. I'm hoping the answer lies somewhere in the middle. It's a little better for Scout, and a little better for the buyers.
Truth in that but when this whole thing originally started VW announced the goal was to be in the $40K’s so I don’t think they initially want to start any higher than they have to. They stated at launch they will be profitable immediately so not like this is Rivian and bleeding out for first few years as a start up. Keep prices tight, get sales momentum moving and prove product is everything they’ve told us it would be then consider marking prices up as tariffs settle, etc….
 
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There are a lot of optimists here. Everyone automatically assumes the cost savings will be passed along to the consumer. We have no idea what it's going to cost. There's nothing to stop them from pocketing that money and saying we're getting a better deal. I'm hoping the answer lies somewhere in the middle. It's a little better for Scout, and a little better for the buyers.
Yep optimist here. I prefer to go through life that way. Yes sometimes you get let down, but I much rather head through life with a positive outlook. Now don’t get me wrong, I am realistic and understand that there could be issues, but right now we are at “what if”. My great grandma always said you can’t worry about something if the questions starts with “what if”. That’s where we are right now, what if the price???

And I have to believe that Scout understands the way they get conversions to orders is to deliver on what they have been stating.
 
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What they’ve been showing definitely isn’t gonna be $60 unfortunately. I’m guessing traveler as shown with tire carrier and 350 mile range will be pushing $78-$85K. Reality is there isn’t much more they can add to the prototypes (other than suspension/off-road packages. So they are kinda maxed out on options so they have to be near the upper end of range. Just the reality of tariff pricing with so much steel and metal in the vehicles
Honestly I would like the base vehicles have the originally advertised ranges, and if they have enough room offer larger batteries as an option.
 
My bet is that there will be two battery options: Large, with max range of ~350 miles and Standard with ~270 miles range.

The Large battery will be max range for a specific trim/option level. Probably 20" wheels with 32" all season EV tires.

Larger tires, smaller wheels, heavier and more wind resistant options will result in a variety of EPA ranges below 350 miles.

The shorter range battery will have fewer options, mostly to keep that 270 miles and lower cost.

Base cost will be <$60k for the lower range vehicle. The 350 mile range vehicle will be ~$70k starting price. Adding options and packages to the Large battery vehicle will bring the price up to $90k.
 
My bet is that there will be two battery options: Large, with max range of ~350 miles and Standard with ~270 miles range.

The Large battery will be max range for a specific trim/option level. Probably 20" wheels with 32" all season EV tires.

Larger tires, smaller wheels, heavier and more wind resistant options will result in a variety of EPA ranges below 350 miles.

The shorter range battery will have fewer options, mostly to keep that 270 miles and lower cost.

Base cost will be <$60k for the lower range vehicle. The 350 mile range vehicle will be ~$70k starting price. Adding options and packages to the Large battery vehicle will bring the price up to $90k.
Same thought but hoping for $85K upper limit.
 
My bet is that there will be two battery options: Large, with max range of ~350 miles and Standard with ~270 miles range.

The Large battery will be max range for a specific trim/option level. Probably 20" wheels with 32" all season EV tires.

Larger tires, smaller wheels, heavier and more wind resistant options will result in a variety of EPA ranges below 350 miles.

The shorter range battery will have fewer options, mostly to keep that 270 miles and lower cost.

Base cost will be <$60k for the lower range vehicle. The 350 mile range vehicle will be ~$70k starting price. Adding options and packages to the Large battery vehicle will bring the price up to $90k.
I'm fully expecting the way I'll option the Traveler to cost $85k +/- $5k. I priced out a Rivian at one point and my options quickly priced it over $95k. I think what I really wanted was around $105k.

Above $85 and I'm definitely out. I'm probably still out at $80k. I just can't wrap my head around spending that much on a vehicle. I can get a BMW, Audi, or Volvo for less than that. Or get another Grand Cherokee and use the difference to rebuild my LJ Wrangler.
 
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