Loaded Traveler with Harvester?

[J Alynn]

And I’m hopeful any launch edition would also allow for roof choice.

And that’s another question, would a launch edition be with or without tire carrier or could you choose? Lots of questions.

I mean I’m happy to lend PBY to be used as a special color for 2028 models. I’m generous that way.

And those items remain unknown. Same with integrated winch, rock sliders, etc.. but maybe you’ll be able to add through the accessories shop?

 

[Broverlander]

And those items remain unknown. Same with integrated winch, rock sliders, etc.. but maybe you’ll be able to add through the accessories shop?

To @cyure: If I had to guess, I'd guess we could spec (add, remove, replace) things that wouldn't require engineering. I'm thinking tires, wheels, color (inside and out), autonomy (it's software at the end of the day they just toggle on or off), and probably bench v. captain's chairs (they are really pushing the bench seat idea so I'd be surprised if you couldn't add or subtract at launch). I don't know know about the tire carrier. I would think you could spec that in or out but there is some engineering that comes with that. I do wonder if we get a good idea about it when the visualizer comes out in November or December as Jamie said. I would hope that whatever you could add or subtract would be available to spec at launch. Launch is far enough away as is. No sense is getting people excited over a build that won't be available for two years after launch.

To @J Allyn's point, the accessories might be able to be added to the accessories shop, but I sure would like to see that just being part of the purchase. I'm thinking behind the scenes they'd have it installed after purchase as an accessory. I don't know most purchasers care how that sausage is made just as long as they get their rock sliders when they pick their truck up!

 

[cyure]

To @cyure: If I had to guess, I'd guess we could spec (add, remove, replace) things that wouldn't require engineering. I'm thinking tires, wheels, color (inside and out), autonomy (it's software at the end of the day they just toggle on or off), and probably bench v. captain's chairs (they are really pushing the bench seat idea so I'd be surprised if you couldn't add or subtract at launch). I don't know know about the tire carrier. I would think you could spec that in or out but there is some engineering that comes with that. I do wonder if we get a good idea about it when the visualizer comes out in November or December as Jamie said. I would hope that whatever you could add or subtract would be available to spec at launch. Launch is far enough away as is. No sense is getting people excited over a build that won't be available for two years after launch.

To @J Allyn's point, the accessories might be able to be added to the accessories shop, but I sure would like to see that just being part of the purchase. I'm thinking behind the scenes they'd have it installed after purchase as an accessory. I don't know most purchasers care how that sausage is made just as long as they get their rock sliders when they pick their truck up!

Thanks. So now I have another questions. Let’s say for example you want a steel bumper with a winch that’s available in the accessories shop. Does your Scout get a “regular” bumper put on at factory and the it goes to the accessories shop to have that one removed and replaced. That seems like a waste of a part.

 

[J Alynn]

To @cyure: If I had to guess, I'd guess we could spec (add, remove, replace) things that wouldn't require engineering. I'm thinking tires, wheels, color (inside and out), autonomy (it's software at the end of the day they just toggle on or off), and probably bench v. captain's chairs (they are really pushing the bench seat idea so I'd be surprised if you couldn't add or subtract at launch). I don't know know about the tire carrier. I would think you could spec that in or out but there is some engineering that comes with that. I do wonder if we get a good idea about it when the visualizer comes out in November or December as Jamie said. I would hope that whatever you could add or subtract would be available to spec at launch. Launch is far enough away as is. No sense is getting people excited over a build that won't be available for two years after launch.

To @J Allyn's point, the accessories might be able to be added to the accessories shop, but I sure would like to see that just being part of the purchase. I'm thinking behind the scenes they'd have it installed after purchase as an accessory. I don't know most purchasers care how that sausage is made just as long as they get their rock sliders when they pick their truck up!

Agree. I’m wondering as of late if they will launch a mountain side launch edition and an off-roader set up launch version to appeal to both groups. Lock in the engineering as you noted then they get the offroad AND suburban buyers and you can accessorize after the fact.

 

[J Alynn]

Thanks. So now I have another questions. Let’s say for example you want a steel bumper with a winch that’s available in the accessories shop. Does your Scout get a “regular” bumper put on at factory and the it goes to the accessories shop to have that one removed and replaced. That seems like a waste of a part.

May be the case at launch depending on what they have ready as far as parts and as far as the included assembly process. Does seem silly. Goes back to my other response that maybe they will have the two variants and each set up as an upscale but not over the top build then accessorize from there

 

[6-ScoutFamily]

Maybe the first 10,000 or 20,000 units should be the Launch edition regardless of build spec. A special badge could be part of that.

 

[cyure]

Maybe the first 10,000 or 20,000 units should be the Launch edition regardless of build spec. A special badge could be part of that.

Then the next question is where would said badge go and if you didn’t want it could you delete it? Oh and would it be numbered like 1 of 10,000 or whatever?

 

[6-ScoutFamily]

It would have to be numbered, and it could go right where the “all wheel drive” was on the side of the original scouts.

Or perhaps its part of the vin plate in the door.

 

[J Alynn]

I think, as much as I’d love to build my ASAP and be first 2,000 I think it needs to be a special opportunity to make it unique. I think it’s a lost opportunity for SM. But just me

 

[Firemedic2714]

Historically any new launch vehicle comes as a premium. They need to ramp up and make consistent builds to avoid mistakes. And as it was noted they need to recoup money as quickly as they can so a premium vehicle is the only way to not saying it has to be $90K but the average simple build will likely push $70K for most buyers so as much as we can say faith and patience the first rounds at a minimum will be $75K then options will push to over $80. If you look at Bronco for example and build one you are likely $8-$10K in options and their starting models range over $10K with special editions being an additional $20K. That means a base model as a special editions being could potentially be $90K for a loaded off-road set up.
I’d like to think things like winch, steel bumpers, and off road “add components “ will be above and beyond since probably 70% of buyers don’t need and theoretically they can be added later so that is why I see it being $80-$80K.
I was on Bronco6g forum (lurker not active) and many said they wanted base and Ford still launched with a launch package with a premium ILO a base model. Obviously we are all taking stabs and we all want to be at $60K but what the keep showing is not base models so guess time will tell

When I built my 2021 OBX SAS and got every option I wanted, steel bumper, lux package metal bumper, all the bells and whistles it was around 60k and no regrets so far. Hoping with harvester and similar lux options on Scout to be around 70-75. Hoping the starting price is like 55 rather than 59,999.99.

Also, being a couple years away, would those ev incentives be back in play? How did that work IRT price?