Words like that are music to my ears . . .Everything seems to indicate this technology is still a ways out in terms of cost and mass-scale production. That said, we can adapt new technology (like batteries) in future products.
Thanks Jamie . . .
Words like that are music to my ears . . .Everything seems to indicate this technology is still a ways out in terms of cost and mass-scale production. That said, we can adapt new technology (like batteries) in future products.
I wasn't part of the Lucid or Rivian rollouts but I have had a ringside seat for every Tesla model release plus refreshes, I can tell you the wailing and gnashing of teeth on this forum will reach a fever pitch as deliveries begin. People will build complicated spreadsheets to try and back out (calculate) VINs from reservation numbers, divine Scout's batching system, and then forecast when they'll get their vehicles. Then when someone with a later number gets their car ahead of someone with an earlier number they will come here and complain about it.This is going to be like a Rivian/Lucid, etc situation. Lots of people have reservations. Some will get to go first. Some will have to wait. Some may wait longer than others. It’s all a calculation as to when someone needs or wants to replace their vehicle and if they can wait for their turn.
Thanks for the first hand experience! I suspect you are correct in a lot of this.I wasn't part of the Lucid or Rivian rollouts but I have had a ringside seat for every Tesla model release plus refreshes, I can tell you the wailing and gnashing of teeth on this forum will reach a fever pitch as deliveries begin. People will build complicated spreadsheets to try and back out (calculate) VINs from reservation numbers, divine Scout's batching system, and then forecast when they'll get their vehicles. Then when someone with a later number gets their car ahead of someone with an earlier number they will come here and complain about it.
Having seen this movie before, I can comfortable predict the following:
1) Scout will batch production of similar configurations in order to minimize complexity for the line.
2) Scout will produce the configurations with the highest profit margins first, assuming there are no supply chain issues. For example, certain wheels or other parts may not be available so Scout will skip over those orders, produce what they have, and when the parts arrive will slot them into the build schedule. There's no way to predict what, if any, configurations this will affect.
3) There is a geographical component as well. It doesn't make sense to send a half-empty rail car or semi truck so Scout will also batch based on geography. This means that if you're the only person in your region buying a Scout, you may wait a bit. Related to this will be pleasing investors. Scout will have targets to hit of X cars produced/delivered per quarter. They will have to factor transit time into this. So expect to see cars sent to the West Coast early in the quarter and deliveries move East during the quarter. Tesla was famous for delivery "parties" at the factory during the last couple days of the quarter.
All that to say, once you have your Scout you won't care that some people got their car ahead of you but in the moment, hanging out here, reading about people's experiences, will fill you with a sense of envy and frustration. Just remember that it's not personal.![]()
This is all accurate & to be expected. If Scout would build out each vehicle in the exact order that they were reserved, they would lose a ton of coin and time.I wasn't part of the Lucid or Rivian rollouts but I have had a ringside seat for every Tesla model release plus refreshes, I can tell you the wailing and gnashing of teeth on this forum will reach a fever pitch as deliveries begin. People will build complicated spreadsheets to try and back out (calculate) VINs from reservation numbers, divine Scout's batching system, and then forecast when they'll get their vehicles. Then when someone with a later number gets their car ahead of someone with an earlier number they will come here and complain about it.
Having seen this movie before, I can comfortable predict the following:
1) Scout will batch production of similar configurations in order to minimize complexity for the line.
2) Scout will produce the configurations with the highest profit margins first, assuming there are no supply chain issues. For example, certain wheels or other parts may not be available so Scout will skip over those orders, produce what they have, and when the parts arrive will slot them into the build schedule. There's no way to predict what, if any, configurations this will affect.
3) There is a geographical component as well. It doesn't make sense to send a half-empty rail car or semi truck so Scout will also batch based on geography. This means that if you're the only person in your region buying a Scout, you may wait a bit. Related to this will be pleasing investors. Scout will have targets to hit of X cars produced/delivered per quarter. They will have to factor transit time into this. So expect to see cars sent to the West Coast early in the quarter and deliveries move East during the quarter. Tesla was famous for delivery "parties" at the factory during the last couple days of the quarter.
All that to say, once you have your Scout you won't care that some people got their car ahead of you but in the moment, hanging out here, reading about people's experiences, will fill you with a sense of envy and frustration. Just remember that it's not personal.![]()
Faith and patience.This is all accurate & to be expected. If Scout would build out each vehicle in the exact order that they were reserved, they would lose a ton of coin and time.
I personally ordered my R1T well ahead of a friend, AND I can absolutely confirm that his R1T was delivered ahead of mine. Only difference? Exterior paint choice - he opted to pay extra for Limestone paint (more profitable build for Rivian I imagine) and I opted to take the Launch Green paint that was offered as a "free launch upgrade". Did I freak out? No... I would expect any smart OEM to operate as efficiently as possible at launch in production. Did I got to his delivery? YES! I went to his house to take the initial delivery test drive with him. He was gracious enough to invite me to join him and it was quite eye-opening. It was also the first time I actually sat in a Rivian.
The only thing I would add to the above (concerning the geographical component) is that Scout will also want to concentrate deliveries around available service centers. Some people will get frustrated by this, but I would encourage patience, and we still don't know what service will look like, how quickly SC's will spin up, or where they may be located first. Again, this is about efficiency, time, money & profitability for any business. Add in first impressions of new owners, and you would expect that if any problems arise, you can get your truck serviced conveniently. If Scout opens there first SC's around concentrated areas for deliveries based on reservation numbers and conversion of reservations to orders, that would obviously be a smart choice & logical for the business (and best for new owners).
3) There is a geographical component as well. It doesn't make sense to send a half-empty rail car or semi truck so Scout will also batch based on geography. This means that if you're the only person in your region buying a Scout, you may wait a bit. Related to this will be pleasing investors. Scout will have targets to hit of X cars produced/delivered per quarter. They will have to factor transit time into this. So expect to see cars sent to the West Coast early in the quarter and deliveries move East during the quarter. Tesla was famous for delivery "parties" at the factory during the last couple days of the quarter.
I don’t think we have one. Might be a good thing for you to start. See what all of us want to happen at our factory pick up. How far we are going to be driving. Etc etc.Now, where is that thread about early adopters wanting a factory pickup option?![]()
Now, where is that thread about early adopters wanting a factory pickup option?![]()
I don’t think we have one. Might be a good thing for you to start. See what all of us want to happen at our factory pick up. How far we are going to be driving. Etc etc.
Ha. I was searching factory pick up. That’s why I couldn’t find it. Thanks! I post so much I’m starting to lose track.Sorry @cyure, that was just me being sarcastic. There are actually a couple of threads for factory pick up already. This is the earliest/longest one I know about:
I'm curious whether factory deliveries, particularly for early reservation holders, are being considered by Scout. That would be similar to what some folks have been able to do with Rivian, picking up their R1 in Normal and then driving it home.
In my case the round-trip of 14 miles to collect the Terra Harvester that I reserved might be pretty arduous, but I'd be willing to give it the old college try.
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Sorry @cyure, that was just me being sarcastic. There are actually a couple of threads for factory pick up already. This is the earliest/longest one I know about:
Ha. I was searching factory pick up. That’s why I couldn’t find it. Thanks! I post so much I’m starting to lose track.![]()
Ha! I knew I talked about it, I just couldn’t remember what the thread was called. Thanks for the grace.You have a bunch of posts in that thread, but it is Halloween so I'll let it slide this time.![]()
I remember the Bronco chaos. But insider tip-if you send Jamie $2500 he will move you into one of the first 100 spaces. When those fill up the price jumps to $3000 and the last 10 get bumped. If you need details-DM @THil08 because he told me how to get the secret hook-up. Just sayin’-he’s tight with Jamie and uncle ScottyI wasn't part of the Lucid or Rivian rollouts but I have had a ringside seat for every Tesla model release plus refreshes, I can tell you the wailing and gnashing of teeth on this forum will reach a fever pitch as deliveries begin. People will build complicated spreadsheets to try and back out (calculate) VINs from reservation numbers, divine Scout's batching system, and then forecast when they'll get their vehicles. Then when someone with a later number gets their car ahead of someone with an earlier number they will come here and complain about it.
Having seen this movie before, I can comfortable predict the following:
1) Scout will batch production of similar configurations in order to minimize complexity for the line.
2) Scout will produce the configurations with the highest profit margins first, assuming there are no supply chain issues. For example, certain wheels or other parts may not be available so Scout will skip over those orders, produce what they have, and when the parts arrive will slot them into the build schedule. There's no way to predict what, if any, configurations this will affect.
3) There is a geographical component as well. It doesn't make sense to send a half-empty rail car or semi truck so Scout will also batch based on geography. This means that if you're the only person in your region buying a Scout, you may wait a bit. Related to this will be pleasing investors. Scout will have targets to hit of X cars produced/delivered per quarter. They will have to factor transit time into this. So expect to see cars sent to the West Coast early in the quarter and deliveries move East during the quarter. Tesla was famous for delivery "parties" at the factory during the last couple days of the quarter.
All that to say, once you have your Scout you won't care that some people got their car ahead of you but in the moment, hanging out here, reading about people's experiences, will fill you with a sense of envy and frustration. Just remember that it's not personal.![]()
LOL, same. Happened with my GT350The amount of energy Ford customers put into tracking their new EV through the process is incredible. Some people here are going to become experts in how to read Union Pacific, BNSF, CSX, shipping manifests, etc. They’re going to learn which rails ship in which directions, what their regional hubs are, which trucking companies ship from which railyards, how long it takes to transfer from a railway to a truck, from a truck to a local delivery service, etc. I’ve fogotten all of that now, but it was a major obsession of mine when our Mustang was being built and shipped. I knew when it was on the dealer lot before the dealer did…
I heard Uncle Scotty only moves you to the top of your say his name 3 times, similar to Beetlejuice. Don’t ask why, it just what he told me.I remember the Bronco chaos. But insider tip-if you send Jamie $2500 he will move you into one of the first 100 spaces. When those fill up the price jumps to $3000 and the last 10 get bumped. If you need details-DM @THil08 because he told me how to get the secret hook-up. Just sayin’-he’s tight with Jamie and uncle Scotty
I suspect that there are also a lot of EREV reservation holders that are not fully aware that they'll be getting a much smaller battery than the 350-mile BEV. This was not a well publicized fact in the first few days of reservations. I initially reacted with "how would you not want the EREV' until I discovered the difference in battery size, then changed my reservation to BEV.I think a lot of pundits are going to be surprised by this. I would bet (without any evidence) that a good 50% of the EREV reservation holders also hold a reservation for a BEV. If it’s anywhere near that the, of-cited 80% EREV reservations stat is more likely 60%, which changes the conversation substantially. Only Scout Motors knows this number, though.
In the beginning there was one video that a car reviewer did and she had said 350 battery 150 extra from gas and I thought that was the stats for quite awhile.I suspect that there are also a lot of EREV reservation holders that are not fully aware that they'll be getting a much smaller battery than the 350-mile BEV. This was not a well publicized fact in the first few days of reservations. I initially reacted with "how would you not want the EREV' until I discovered the difference in battery size, then changed my reservation to BEV.