Im more of a 37" tire guy, are we going to need a lift kit or will these squeeze in?
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Out of fairness the Wrangler didn’t take a 20+ year hiatus either and wranglers don’t evolve that much from one gen to the next. But I get your point
That’s part of the point, though. Right?
Jeep’s Wrangler generations are 10+ years long. The JK was introduced in 2006, the JL in 2017—and that’s the generation we’re still on. The difference between a JK and a JL are minimal when it comes to many aftermarket parts. Their widths are basically identical so minor changes to bumpers, etc., are required to meet the specs. And the aftermarket vendors haven’t had to do *anything* substantial for almost 20 years to keep their products relevant.
Similarly, many aftermarket parts for a Second (2005), Third (2015), or Fourth (2024) Gen Tacomas are very, very similar and don’t require much in the way of redevelopment.
For Jeep, Toyota, Ford, etc., an aftermarket developer of…I don’t know, say rock sliders...can take their product, change the locations of gussets and mounting points, maybe add a bit of length or shorten a bit, and it’s ready to mount onto the next generation vehicle. If they want to update the appearance, they can do so. But the basics will not change dramatically in between.
If Scout hopes to build a quality aftermarket, they have to quickly get specs and expectations out to developers. And the developers have to have reasonable expectations that their products will be valuable for years to come and that only minor changes to their products will be required as Scout makes changes to their generations. Otherwise they’ll be playing catch-up on R&D and that gets expensive.
I’m just glad with my Scout I wont have to worry about things like replacing hood latches when the hood gets bouncy at high speeds. I like my new hood latches better, they look nicer than the OEM but it’s stuff like that I don’t want to deal with.
I hope you stretched before reaching that hard Bud.
You’re the only one saying there isn’t a penalty, because I certainly didn’t.
I’m just saying the size of the tires has far less influence over NVH and I cannot figure out why that myth keeps getting regurgitated. Because it’s simply not true.
Mud is definitely for the birds! My buddy had a hard time with his JKU Rubincon in the mud on one trail in stock form. He just couldn’t get the tires to spin fast enough to clear them. I was able to just bounce off the rev limiter and climb up.
That 4:1 ratio is phenomenal on hill climbs but not great in mud and snow.
That is absolutely wild.
Stoked for you about the fuel mileage. Very very impressive especially at altitude.
You’re right though, driving style plays a huge role in efficiency.
No need to prove yourself. You’re just one of the only people I have encountered getting those types of figures.
My buddies on 37”s see 14-17mpg on the highway but city driving is around 9mpg. 21mpg is quite the achievement.
I just hope Mopar engineers don’t catch wind of your fuel mileage and detune in the middle of the night
Definitely and maybe that recent tank was just a really good brew of 91 octane or my engine finally broke inMud is definitely for the birds! My buddy had a hard time with his JKU Rubincon in the mud on one trail in stock form. He just couldn’t get the tires to spin fast enough to clear them. I was able to just bounce off the rev limiter and climb up.
That 4:1 ratio is phenomenal on hill climbs but not great in mud and snow.
That is absolutely wild.
Stoked for you about the fuel mileage. Very very impressive especially at altitude.
You’re right though, driving style plays a huge role in efficiency.
No need to prove yourself. You’re just one of the only people I have encountered getting those types of figures.
My buddies on 37”s see 14-17mpg on the highway but city driving is around 9mpg. 21mpg is quite the achievement.
I just hope Mopar engineers don’t catch wind of your fuel mileage and detune in the middle of the night
because I’m typically getting more like 18mpg mixed driving on 85 octane at 3000-6000 feet elevation for most of my driving.
Mud is definitely for the birds! My buddy had a hard time with his JKU Rubincon in the mud on one trail in stock form. He just couldn’t get the tires to spin fast enough to clear them. I was able to just bounce off the rev limiter and climb up.
That 4:1 ratio is phenomenal on hill climbs but not great in mud and snow.
That is absolutely wild.
Stoked for you about the fuel mileage. Very very impressive especially at altitude.
You’re right though, driving style plays a huge role in efficiency.
No need to prove yourself. You’re just one of the only people I have encountered getting those types of figures.
My buddies on 37”s see 14-17mpg on the highway but city driving is around 9mpg. 21mpg is quite the achievement.
I just hope Mopar engineers don’t catch wind of your fuel mileage and detune in the middle of the night
Luckily mine is old enough that Mopar can’t touch it unless I go to the dealer, which I have no intention of doing. No such thing as an over-the-air update with these things if that’s what you mean.
Guys…
I couldn’t sleep. I’m too worried.
That sounded like a really bad cough.
Can somebody check on Jamie?
I couldn’t sleep. I’m too worried.
That sounded like a really bad cough.
Can somebody check on Jamie?
He’s OK. He’s sleeping in my garage with the newly done Scouts. Been a little damp here so I think that caused the cough but I put the heater on and gave him an extra blanket. The portobello gray and butter yellow paint jobs look great. Oops-I did it again (call me Brittany)
Hahahaha. I was just getting really confused b/c I was saying there was an efficiency penalty, but you were saying that I was the only one saying that there wasn't one!
All good
I am right in line with you. I have discussed this with Sean Barber and he is chomping at the bit to get his hands on one of our early builds for this exact reason. Not sure where this is going yet. But if it materializes you can bet I am getting involved.
Hell, put me on that list. I can unroll tarps and hand people tools and I’ll bring my own food and beer!
Maybe Sean Barber can be Brad Pitt's stunt double for F1 V2...
Some of ya'll talking 37s already and I'm over here hoping that 33s don't look goofy since we're all so used to seeing 35s on the test vehicles.
Don't get me wrong, 35s are cool. I have 35s on my 06 Wrangler. If I am going to be doing any trail riding, I'll take the LJ. The extent of the offroad my Scout will see will be dirt driveways/parking lots. I want the most efficient trim possible and I figure 33s will get that.
Don't get me wrong, 35s are cool. I have 35s on my 06 Wrangler. If I am going to be doing any trail riding, I'll take the LJ. The extent of the offroad my Scout will see will be dirt driveways/parking lots. I want the most efficient trim possible and I figure 33s will get that.
Heck, why stop there? How about 3” portal axles and 42’s.37's on one of our show vehicles......Hmmmm. This is something to consider. I'll present it to the team.
I’m considering for my Lightning going to 32s for three seasons and keeping the 33s for winter. If I were to start doing more trail driving with the Lightning, I might get a set of wheels and tires specifically for that. But the most I’ll likely ever do in it is forest service roads and very light crawling.
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