Ideal Small Sized Vehicle

[SrfnFly227]

Look at the Cadillac Escalade IQ for the best current comparison. It will do over 460 miles on a full charge with a 205kWh pack. It is the closest comparison to a gas powered full size three row SUV.

Specification	Cadillac Escalade IQ (Electric)	Cadillac Escalade (Gas)
Powertrain	Electric Motor	V8 (6.2L) Gas Engine
Horsepower	~750 HP	~420 HP
Torque	~785 lb-ft	~460 lb-ft
Battery Capacity	200 kWh (estimated)	N/A
Range	400+ miles (estimated)	360-420 miles (depending on trim)
Charging Time	10-80% in ~30 minutes (DC Fast)	N/A
Towing Capacity	8,000 lbs (estimated)	8,200 lbs
Acceleration (0-60 mph)	~4.5 seconds	~6.0 seconds
Drive Type	All-Wheel Drive (AWD)	Rear-Wheel Drive (RWD) / AWD
Transmission	Single-speed transmission (EV)	10-speed automatic transmission
Interior	5-7 passengers (luxury SUV)	7-8 passengers (luxury SUV)
Infotainment	38-inch OLED screen, Super Cruise	38-inch OLED screen, Super Cruise
Cargo Space	~90.9 cu ft (with seats folded)	121.0 cu ft (with seats folded)
Dimensions (L x W x H)	227.0 x 80.0 x 77.0 inches	211.9 x 81.1 x 76.7 inches
Wheelbase	130 inches	120.9 inches
Price (Base)	~$130,000 (estimated)	~$77,000

The tech to make a long range vehicle is here now... The price just isn't accessible to everyone yet.

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Just because a company can shove enough battery in, doesn't mean the tech is there. The IQ weighs over 9000 pounds compared to the standard Escalade's 6000. Base price is $130k (Motortrends "as tested" vehicle came in at $151k) vs $94k (Your chart appears to error at $77k).

So the electric Escalade is 50% heavier and 40% more expensive. It also takes an estimated 30 minutes of charging to gain 322 miles (10-80%) vs about 5 minutes at a gas station to gain 360 miles (10-100%).


I get it, people love their electric vehicles. The Harvester (and design) brought me to Scout, but I've since updated my reservation to BEV. I'm genuinely looking forward to the switch from gas. But the tech has a long way to go to get cost, weight, and charge time in line with a gas powered vehicle. The smaller the battery pack, the better the math. Hence my comment that at current tech, a Scout 800E coming next makes more sense than a Travelall-E.

 

[apex96]

Just because a company can shove enough battery in, doesn't mean the tech is there. The IQ weighs over 9000 pounds compared to the standard Escalade's 6000. Base price is $130k (Motortrends "as tested" vehicle came in at $151k) vs $94k (Your chart appears to error at $77k).

So the electric Escalade is 50% heavier and 40% more expensive. It also takes an estimated 30 minutes of charging to gain 322 miles (10-80%) vs about 5 minutes at a gas station to gain 360 miles (10-100%).


I get it, people love their electric vehicles. The Harvester (and design) brought me to Scout, but I've since updated my reservation to BEV. I'm genuinely looking forward to the switch from gas. But the tech has a long way to go to get cost, weight, and charge time in line with a gas powered vehicle. The smaller the battery pack, the better the math. Hence my comment that at current tech, a Scout 800E coming next makes more sense than a Travelall-E.

Normal gas station fill will take closer to 10-15+ minutes and then add in time to stretch and walk around a little bit. Traveling 400+ miles requires a bit of movement to get blood circulating again... Put it this way, if I travel for 400 miles straight, I'm gonna be stopping for around 30 minutes to fuel up, walk the dogs, and get a little food... The tech is there, the vehicle can road trip and travel long distances and do it fairly quickly when utilizing 400kW charging stations...

What you want is megawatt charging stations and semi-solid state or solid state battery tech to get charge times of 5-10 minutes. Those technologies are coming but we're about 5-10 years out n the North America for those. To get this to the masses, you're looking at closer to 10-15 years to become affordable.