Harvester - Request to allow it to charge battery while parked & a 30-40amp/240v outlet

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  • Oct 29, 2024
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    I live in the PNW and with the recent "bomb cyclone" we have had widespread power outages. Its been almost 3 days without power and we don't have a generator. We've been able to draw power using our Rivian R1T which is great. I did have to go to a DCFC charger to juice up once but otherwise its an awesome feature and capability of BEVs.

    With that in mind, I've been thinking about Scout's Harvester and how great of an option it would be in situations like the one were in. I'd say it would be an even better option than a battery-only BEV. If I had the Traveler this week with the Harvester and had the option to keep my battery charged using the combustion engine, it would have provided a similar experience with regards to powering my home but it would have been way more convenient.

    As you know, going from 10-90% in a BEV can take anywhere from 30 min to 1.5 hours, depending on how large your battery is and chargers speeds. That doesn't factor in if the charger up, is it running properly, it is busy. As you can imagine, all the DCFC in the area have been busy so it took me about 2 hours to get my charge complete with the wait time.

    Had I had the Traveler with the Harvester, I could have gotten gas in a few min, returned home and continued to power my essentials.

    This is assuming that the Harvester works while the vehicle is parked. Another community member mentioned this in their post. It'd be similar to that but it doesn't necessarily need to keep the battery at a fixed SOC, it just needs to be able to charge the battery so that as we discharge it to power the house, the engine keeps charging it. Simply put, you'd want to drain the gasoline more than the battery as its easier/faster to fill up gas than charge the battery. The other similar use case is when camping or overlanding. It'd be great to charge the battery during the day or overnight when parked. Of course there's the issue of the fumes from a stationary vehicle. Its going to be interesting to find out how the Harvester works.

    Obviously would be amazing for emergency situations like the one we were in this week but also useful for camping/overlanding and other scenarios where you need to power devices while the vehicle is parked. Also, it'd be great if it provided more than the 1.2kW of power the outlets in the R1T provide. 9.6kW would be nice like the Cybertruck and F-150 Lightning. Also nice would be at least one outlet with 40amp/240v outlet. It'd be useful to be able to charge our other BEV with the Scout.
     
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    I was watching this video today and the Director of UX was demoing the Modes feature of the UI. They were in Outdoor mode and he showed an option to turn on the Harvestor while in that mode. To me that indicates you will be able to charge the battery while the vehicle is parked. I hope that makes it to production!

    At ~ 15:40 and ~20:20 they talk about charging, bi-directional charging and off grid battery uses, i.e., camping and such. With a Harvester that would be fantastic!
    It will likely provide a lot more than my home back up battery can provide @ 19.5 KWH.
     
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    Do you think they need more than a "Don't do this" warning? My Honda generator's manual has a warning like that. The dangers of running an ICE engine in an enclosed space are should be well known to any owner.
    I would like to believe a warning is all but as EREV become more prevalent I just see some unscrupulous parent who doesn’t pay attention to their child suing Scout or other EV manufacturers because it’s a vicious opportunist way to get rich and cripple an industry. Lowest common denominator.
    Maybe it’s a warning AND when you go into stationary generator mode it pops up on screen asking if you are in a ventilated area and you press ‘YES’ to continue. That would put the liability back on the vehicle owner-not that a tragedy still couldn’t happen along with a lawsuit.
     
    I would like to believe a warning is all but as EREV become more prevalent I just see some unscrupulous parent who doesn’t pay attention to their child suing Scout or other EV manufacturers because it’s a vicious opportunist way to get rich and cripple an industry. Lowest common denominator.
    Maybe it’s a warning AND when you go into stationary generator mode it pops up on screen asking if you are in a ventilated area and you press ‘YES’ to continue. That would put the liability back on the vehicle owner-not that a tragedy still couldn’t happen along with a lawsuit.
    This of course will need to be tested, But, maybe adding a simple CO detector to the vehicle so it can sniff when the harvester is running and stationary so it can shut it down. May just save a few lives.

    The best way just might be to locate the CO detector in the HVAC ductwork and have it turn the fan on low. It should also when activated have the capability to turn recirculation mode OFF. This way it is drawing outside air from the inclosed space into the cab.
     
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    I would like to believe a warning is all but as EREV become more prevalent I just see some unscrupulous parent who doesn’t pay attention to their child suing Scout or other EV manufacturers because it’s a vicious opportunist way to get rich and cripple an industry. Lowest common denominator.
    Maybe it’s a warning AND when you go into stationary generator mode it pops up on screen asking if you are in a ventilated area and you press ‘YES’ to continue. That would put the liability back on the vehicle owner-not that a tragedy still couldn’t happen along with a lawsuit.

    Remote start systems via your remote or a phone app are already very common, so I would think this would be viewed simlarly.
     
    If you watch the interview with the CEO of Scout Scott Keogh and Jay Leno, Jay specifically brings up the point about being able to just put gas in the engine and park the car and have the car keep the battery topped up. Scott confirms that all you will need to do is set the harvester to keep the battery topped up and forget about it.

    There will also be indicators built in to let you know when the gas in the fuel tank is about to go bad after 6 months so you can burn the gas off and refill it.
     
    If you watch the interview with the CEO of Scout Scott Keogh and Jay Leno, Jay specifically brings up the point about being able to just put gas in the engine and park the car and have the car keep the battery topped up. Scott confirms that all you will need to do is set the harvester to keep the battery topped up and forget about it.

    There will also be indicators built in to let you know when the gas in the fuel tank is about to go bad after 6 months so you can burn the gas off and refill it.
    Just to clarify, you mean parked with the Harvester engine running,
    Correct?
     
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    I know the feature has been confirmed but I am honestly blown away with how much thought thats already been put into Community UX. It seems they are genuinely focused on what people have been wanting in an offroad companion and it can only GET BETTER as time goes on and they listen to user feedback.