My BMW is good and doesn’t act like many shady dealers. It really doesn’t have to be that way.
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For the record I don’t care for it either. If you need to rely on your name across a 28”x64” tailgate you aren’t offering a compelling product
Had to be anticipated and I’m sure they’ve been prepared for this. Cant wait to see all the online rags stating Scout is finished before they startedJudge rules CNCDA lawsuit against Volkswagen, Scout can proceed
Judge rules CNCDA lawsuit against Volkswagen, Scout can proceed
The CNCDA first filed its lawsuit in April 2024, and the manufacturers filed motions to dismiss. (2 min. read)news.dealershipguy.com
Disappointing.
How do you figure? VWAG has numerous brands to sell through including Ducati. They can argue it’s an adventure vehicle and tie in to that. Or sell through Navistar. Many options
My guess/hope is that if Scout Motors loses enough cases to make DTC non-viable, they’ll buy themselves out of VWAG and go it alone without VWAG and especially without the dealership parasites.
I’m just hoping they don’t lose.
They’ll need to come up with 3B+ to do so. Considering all their cash is coming from VW I don’t see that happening. They haven’t positioned themselves the way Rivian has signing big $ deals with Uber/Amazon nor having any other institutional investors like other Auto start ups.
This is still early, VW probably was prepared for outcomes like this, if they end up losing that’s a whole other discussion on corporate negligence
FWIW - VWAG also has International...
I guess one of the only real problems there - I suspect state dealer laws require dealers to service what they sell (I think that was one of the prime reasons we got dealer laws in the first place). I doubt International wants to service consumer vehicles.
I guess one of the only real problems there - I suspect state dealer laws require dealers to service what they sell (I think that was one of the prime reasons we got dealer laws in the first place). I doubt International wants to service consumer vehicles.
They don’t necessarily need to buy themselves out with cash. There are lots of other ways.
But it may not matter. In 2023, the CA legislature made it nearly impossible for any new vehicle manufacturer to sell without dealerships, and that law is the basis for letting parts of the case in question to go forward.
As far as the CA case goes, it looks like it will just be VWGoA and Scout Motors in the case. VWAG is likely to be removed from it. Their motion to dismiss was granted by the CA District Court and they will be removed unless the dealers can come up with a strong argument in an amendment.
For VWGoA and Scout, the Court allowed what seem like the most serious allegations (unfair competition and false advertising) to move to the next stage of the case.
There are still troubling signs of what could be coming, but it’s not all over yet. The motions to dismiss are disposed of. The dealers have until 13 April to file an amended complaint trying to preserve their arguments that were dismissed. If they don’t file, then the case moves forward with VWGoA and Scout needing to respond to the remaining complaints by 20 April.
I agree this is a reasonable scenario. It would end this nonsense.
No. There may be hurdles in some specific states, but otherwise, we continue to move ahead.
Good to know. In the meantime I’m still saving my pennies.
Still saving for a Scout, too. After test driving a Rivian and Lucid, it's more clear than ever that Scout's approach to the UX will be superior even if they only pull off 75% of the tactile interface in the concepts. I hope (and expect) they nail the driving engineering too.
If Hyundai does make this, I don’t think it’s gonna look like the concept.
Oh I like it, but there’s no way they are going to make it look like that. It drives my husband nuts when a company shows a concept and then the production model looks nothing like it. It’s going to end up looking like a Tucson/Palisades.
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