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I had to look up the difference between Level 2 and 2+. Per my search, my 8 year old Ford F250 is level 2 - adaptive cruise control and steering wheel bumps if you start to drift out of your lane) - and so does my wife's Rubicon (although it not quite as old). Decade old tech in a 60k vehicle? I can maybe excuse that if it was $20k cheaper (although I don't think it is even uncommon now to have Level 2+ in 40k vehicles. At least give us the option of Level 2+, it is already common in the VW lineup I think.

I am not trying to be a pain in the posterior - but honestly it could easily be a deal breaker for me if it is not an option. It makes -0- sense to me to not have it as an option. How many sales can be gained by not offer an option vs how many lost by not having an option.
I would not read too much into level 2 vs 2+. Level 2 is technically defined and covers a broad range of possibilities. The key thing is that the driver is always responsible for continually monitoring and ready to take over instantly. 2+ is just an informal way of saying “really advanced level 2 features”. Even Tesla fsd is still level 2 because they won’t accept liability, so they require constant attention from the driver. The real difference in the definition is what is required of the driver. Advanced level 2 systems (blue cruise, super cruise, fsd, &c.) typically monitor the driver to ensure they have their eyes on the road. Level 3 means you don’t have to constantly monitor, but you have to be ready to take over as needed, say with 10 seconds warning., as far as I know, only Mercedes offers this, and only at low speeds in very specific areas. Level 4 means the car can drive in limited situations, eg on the freeway it can drive significant distances while you watch a video or read. Technically you could argue that waymo is level 4, and no one is level 5.
 
Will just wait and see - VW does not seem to use the 2+ term. They have IQDrive, but also Travel Assist - but both are called Level 2. But basic IQDrive has lane assist, while the newest Travel added lane centering and newest versions also control passing apparently.
 
I’ve not watched the interview, but I could swear Jamie said the plan was 2+ so that might be possible though software down the line, it looks like there’s an eye tracker on the wheel column, which suggests the intention for hands free driving to some extent
He did. @Jamie@ScoutMotors can we please get clarification. In the newest interview “The Benj” says level 2 and you have stated level 2+. Which one will our Scouts have? Please and thank you.
 
He did. @Jamie@ScoutMotors can we please get clarification. In the newest interview “The Benj” says level 2 and you have stated level 2+. Which one will our Scouts have? Please and thank you.
I’m going to rely on Jamie’s number. How often in the heat of a conversation or presentation does anyone slip and not get an occasional word or point slightly skewed in the moment. Jamie posts stuff after reading and digesting. Chris was giving a response to a question and stated what his brain recalled at the moment
 
I’m going to rely on Jamie’s number. How often in the heat of a conversation or presentation does anyone slip and not get an occasional word or point slightly skewed in the moment. Jamie posts stuff after reading and digesting. Chris was giving a response to a question and stated what his brain recalled at the moment
I agree. I think that’s more likely.
 
He did. @Jamie@ScoutMotors can we please get clarification. In the newest interview “The Benj” says level 2 and you have stated level 2+. Which one will our Scouts have? Please and thank you.
There's no standardized, official difference between Level 2 ADAS and Level 2+ ADAS. The term "Level 2+" is marketing.

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