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THil08 said:
BMW 3 Series 2026 is what I'm most excited for, besides the Scouts.
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I want to be excited about them but I just don’t like the modern take on the front end. Can’t figure out why. Hoping it’s like every honda accord ever photographed and it ends up looking way better in person than on digital/film media. Happy for those who are happy for it though
 
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6-ScoutFamily said:
Aren’t these the same guys that said SM would delay the BEV? These guys are just click-baters
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I thought they didn’t start the rumor; they reposted the gossiping about delaying of the BEV.
They have a mix of reasonable articles and clickbait, which is frustrating.

On the batteries lifetime. A 40-year battery isn’t even a difficult thing to believe with liquid electrolytes. With a normal level of use, today’s LFP batteries designed with high-quality thermal management could get 5000 cycles before they reach 80% of original capacity.

If the driver goes through one full recharge cycle (0%-100%-0%) once a week, or the equivalent (for example 80%-66%-80% every day), that’s 5000 weeks, which is 95 years.

A 5000 cycle battery is the top end of the LFP battery lifetime, and one full recharge cycle a week is mostly a locally-driven vehicle, with few out-of-town trips. Cut the cycle lifetime in half, to better match a middling lifetime, and you’re at 47 years and you still have almost 20% to play with.

Battery calendar aging is still a concern. That can be mitigated somewhat with more active battery management system.

A solid electrolyte *should* give less time-dependence for battery capacity fade. Getting even a low-end cycle lifetime from solid batteries would easily give a ridiculously-long lifetime.
 
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LastDayScout said:
I read that today. Not good.
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I think that rumor should be filed in the same drawer as the rumor about the Scout BEV being delayed, but deeper in. It’s a rumor started by the WSJ, which has been strongly anti-EV. They interviewed dealers, not Ford corporate. Ford dealers have been anti-EV by about 2:1, and have actively discouraged EV customers from buying the Lightning.
 
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The Ford news coming out of Detroit doesn't sound great:

1. First, there was the Novelis fire (the Novelis plant supplies almost half of the aluminum to Ford)
2. Then, they paused all EV production at the Rouge factory in October
3. On Thursday this week Ford's CEO stated that they were working on getting Rouge back up and running (but provided no timeline):

FORD STATEMENT:
"F-150 Lightning assembly at the Rouge Electric Vehicle Center will remain paused as Ford prioritizes gas and hybrid F-Series trucks, which are more profitable for Ford and use less aluminum."

Ford spokesman Ian Thibodeau told the Detroit Free Press in an email earlier: "Novelis is one of several aluminum suppliers to Ford. Since the fire nearly three weeks ago, Ford has been working closely with Novelis, and a full team is dedicated to addressing the situation and exploring all possible alternatives to minimize any potential disruptions." Thibodeau declined to comment further. The damaged area of the plant in Oswego NY was taken off-line and is not expected to re-open until early 2026.

Not a fan of this Detroit News speculative headline since it isn't what the Ford spokesperson said - they are just assuming it will be discontinued based on recent news and financials. Hopefully Lightning production comes back online. We (U.S.A. OEMs) need to COMPETE in this space to win:
www.detroitnews.com

Ford contemplates scrapping F-150 Lightning, report says

Production of the slow-selling electric truck was halted last month because of a supply shortage of aluminum.
www.detroitnews.com

Quote from Ford's Ian Thibodeau:"F-150 Lightning is the best-selling electric pickup truck in the U.S. — despite new competition from CyberTruck, Chevy, GMC, Hummer and Rivian — and delivered record sales in Q3," Ford spokesperson Ian Thibodeau said in a statement. "Right now, we’re focused on producing F-150 ICE and Hybrid as we recover from the fire at Novelis. We have good inventories of the F-150 Lightning and will bring Rouge Electric Vehicle Center (REVC) back up at the right time, but don’t have an exact date at this time."

Ford's Model e EV division has lost $3.6 billion this year and a total of $13 billion since 2023. The federal plug-in vehicle tax credit expired at the end of September. After that in October, Ford's U.S. EV sales declined almost 25%, including a 17% decrease in Lightning sales to roughly 1,500 vehicles. The vehicle starts at $54,780, according to Ford's website, but many models sell for upwards of $80,000.
 
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