EREV initial release only?

[rfk]

Exactly. Pessimism in 3 other threads is plenty. We all like open conversation and debate but that is spreading in multiple threads and I will say it would be nice to keep the positive vibes flowing around here

Now rumors are being posted on FB and people are talking about cancelling. I despise rumor based posts

Honestly rumors & speculation don't bother me - part of the joy coming from following automotive industry (never worked a day anywhere near it).

That's a big factory complex happening in SC, its not going to just end. If BEV is delayed, its delayed. Some can't wait, some can be flexible to wait (like me), and some might burn their new car fund on extravagant travel instead (also like me).

 

[6-ScoutFamily]

Amen! If you’ve put your $100 down, leave it. It’s refundable until commitment time. By then we will know all the details on these issues.

Besides, if I have to wait a little longer, i can save more for a higher trim level.

 

[Mousehunter]

While I will not be overjoyed with a protracted and undefined wait - I can try to look at a silver lining. Building a few test EV's will not be difficult, they will most likely still build test vehicles. Longer testing might work out kinks. Plus changes in battery tech might become commercially available while we are waiting.

 

[Gottesacker]

This whole Autopian article is exactly like the hubbub over the towing comment on Jay Leno’s YouTube show. A lot of people all upset and cancelling reservations over a comment by the CEO when all the fine details haven’t been ironed out.

Same here with the EV vs EREV timing. We just simply do not know at this stage. I’m willing to give quite a bit of grace at this stage of development. Now… if we were late 2026 or mid 2027 and this was being said, then I may give it a little more credence.

 

[J Alynn]

This whole Autopian article is exactly like the hubbub over the towing comment on Jay Leno’s YouTube show. A lot of people all upset and cancelling reservations over a comment by the CEO when all the fine details haven’t been ironed out.

Same here with the EV vs EREV timing. We just simply do not know at this stage. I’m willing to give quite a bit of grace at this stage of development. Now… if we were late 2026 or mid 2027 and this was being said, then I may give it a little more credence.

Well said and hope more people except your point of view on this

 

[cyure]

This whole Autopian article is exactly like the hubbub over the towing comment on Jay Leno’s YouTube show. A lot of people all upset and cancelling reservations over a comment by the CEO when all the fine details haven’t been ironed out.

Same here with the EV vs EREV timing. We just simply do not know at this stage. I’m willing to give quite a bit of grace at this stage of development. Now… if we were late 2026 or mid 2027 and this was being said, then I may give it a little more credence.

Thank you!

 

[N Wilson]

Still optimistic for Scout and definitely keeping my reservation for now but this makes me even more glad that I bought the Lightning recently, in case the Scout BEV launch does get delayed. More time for me to pay off the Lightning and save for the Scout.

After about a month of driving the Lightning, I have zero interest in the Harvester or any other configuration that includes an ICE.

 

[rfk]

Same here with the EV vs EREV timing. We just simply do not know at this stage. I’m willing to give quite a bit of grace at this stage of development.

Yep. People should just chill and enjoy the ride (no pun). Instead, people should overreact to internet forums that deal with important issues - like college football.

Wild guess is that EREV development lags BEV, so launch was going to be BEV-only followed by EREV maybe a year later (?). Perhaps the plan is to delay launch until EREV is ready to go as counterpart to BEV from Day One? Harmless speculation.

And sorry for the snark, but if you're obsessing over recapturing that $100 deposit perhaps this isn't the market for you - consider a nice Camry instead? We've got $1k locked up as deposit in a retirement home (long story) but don't forecast needing such a thing until maybe ~2050, or perhaps never, who knows. Good to plan ahead though.

 

[Chuckles]

Yep. People should just chill and enjoy the ride (no pun). Instead, people should overreact to internet forums that deal with important issues - like college football.

Wild guess is that EREV development lags BEV, so launch was going to be BEV-only followed by EREV maybe a year later (?). Perhaps the plan is to delay launch until EREV is ready to go as counterpart to BEV from Day One? Harmless speculation.

And sorry for the snark, but if you're obsessing over recapturing that $100 deposit perhaps this isn't the market for you - consider a nice Camry instead? We've got $1k locked up as deposit in a retirement home (long story) but don't forecast needing such a thing until maybe ~2050, or perhaps never, who knows. Good to plan ahead though.

Did you happen to watch Scott's interview on Bloomberg the other day? They asked him about the EREV versus BEV.

https://finance.yahoo.com/video/scout-motors-boosts-hybrid-investment-173230980.html

 

[oldgeeksguide]

Did you happen to watch Scott's interview on Bloomberg the other day? They asked him about the EREV versus BEV.

https://finance.yahoo.com/video/scout-motors-boosts-hybrid-investment-173230980.html

I can’t listen right now, what did he say?

 

[Chuckles]

I can’t listen right now, what did he say?

Scott Keogh on Bloomberg. Highlights: Regarding the Harvester models being made first, both models are being developed in parallel. 80% of reservations are for Harvesters. Scout "would probably lean with the EREV, but nothing we've announced yet". They will announce as soon as possible. Over 130k reservations. The plant will take around 3 years to achieve full capacity. Scott said he doesn't see Scout offering an ICE-only vehicle. Performance figures: over 600 hp, 1000 lb-ft of torque, 0-60 in 4.5 seconds, 500 miles of range. Making vehicles for other brands is "an absolute possibility", but nothing to announce. Direct-to-consumer is harder, but it's the right way. Scott also mentions an MPGe of "over 70".

 

[cyure]

Scott Keogh on Bloomberg. Highlights: Regarding the Harvester models being made first, both models are being developed in parallel. 80% of reservations are for Harvesters. Scout "would probably lean with the EREV, but nothing we've announced yet". They will announce as soon as possible. Over 130k reservations. The plant will take around 3 years to achieve full capacity. Scott said he doesn't see Scout offering an ICE-only vehicle. Performance figures: over 600 hp, 1000 lb-ft of torque, 0-60 in 4.5 seconds, 500 miles of range. Making vehicles for other brands is "an absolute possibility", but nothing to announce. Direct-to-consumer is harder, but it's the right way. Scott also mentions an MPGe of "over 70".

And that the production capability is 200,000 a year and that the world is heading electric.

 

[Gottesacker]

Still optimistic for Scout and definitely keeping my reservation for now but this makes me even more glad that I bought the Lightning recently, in case the Scout BEV launch does get delayed. More time for me to pay off the Lightning and save for the Scout.

After about a month of driving the Lightning, I have zero interest in the Harvester or any other configuration that includes an ICE.

Someone recently had suggested renting a Lightning for a week or so to get an idea of living with one. I thought that was a great idea, but have had a hard time finding one that wasn’t going to cost a fortune to rent for a week.

My reservation is Harvester, but ultimately I may change based on final specifications. For instance, I’m not going to compromise the towing or payload capacity for the extra range.

 

[Gottesacker]

Yep. People should just chill and enjoy the ride (no pun). Instead, people should overreact to internet forums that deal with important issues - like college football.

Wild guess is that EREV development lags BEV, so launch was going to be BEV-only followed by EREV maybe a year later (?). Perhaps the plan is to delay launch until EREV is ready to go as counterpart to BEV from Day One? Harmless speculation.

And sorry for the snark, but if you're obsessing over recapturing that $100 deposit perhaps this isn't the market for you - consider a nice Camry instead? We've got $1k locked up as deposit in a retirement home (long story) but don't forecast needing such a thing until maybe ~2050, or perhaps never, who knows. Good to plan ahead though.

I’ve wasted $100 before way faster, and on worse things, than that deposit I made

 

[Gurble]

Scott Keogh on Bloomberg. Highlights: Regarding the Harvester models being made first, both models are being developed in parallel. 80% of reservations are for Harvesters. Scout "would probably lean with the EREV, but nothing we've announced yet". They will announce as soon as possible. Over 130k reservations. The plant will take around 3 years to achieve full capacity. Scott said he doesn't see Scout offering an ICE-only vehicle. Performance figures: over 600 hp, 1000 lb-ft of torque, 0-60 in 4.5 seconds, 500 miles of range. Making vehicles for other brands is "an absolute possibility", but nothing to announce. Direct-to-consumer is harder, but it's the right way. Scott also mentions an MPGe of "over 70".

"Making vehicles for other brands is "an absolute possibility"

Scuttlebutt is that it's an Audi luxury 4x4 to compete with the G-Wagon.

 

[cyure]

"Making vehicles for other brands is "an absolute possibility"

Scuttlebutt is that it's an Audi luxury 4x4 to compete with the G-Wagon.

Makes sense. After I get my Scout they can make whatever they want.

 

[bwdavis7]

Someone recently had suggested renting a Lightning for a week or so to get an idea of living with one. I thought that was a great idea, but have had a hard time finding one that wasn’t going to cost a fortune to rent for a week

I rented an Ioniq 5 for a week from Turo. It was an eye opener for me and firmly set my change from Harvester to BEV. For me, that was my first EV experience. I'm not sure if that is what you're looking for or if you're thinking something more off road capable or heavy duty EV.

 

[THil08]

Did you happen to watch Scott's interview on Bloomberg the other day? They asked him about the EREV versus BEV.

https://finance.yahoo.com/video/scout-motors-boosts-hybrid-investment-173230980.html

Yip

 

[R1TVT]

For instance, I’m not going to compromise the towing or payload capacity for the extra range.

By way of a pure BEV truck comparison, my R1T has a towing capacity of 11,000 lbs and puts out 908 lb feet of torque. Pure BEV Terra will be a beast (even with 2 motors).

 

[Gottesacker]

I rented an Ioniq 5 for a week from Turo. It was an eye opened for me and firmly set my change from Harvester to BEV. For me, that was my first EV experience. I'm not sure if that is what you're looking for or if you're thinking something more of road capable or heavy duty EV.

I’m a contractor and use my truck daily for towing, hauling. So I just want to make sure I can live with one on a daily basis. I remember early on seeing TFLTruck with the Lightning and the towing range going clear down to something like 89 miles. That would just not cut it for me, which is what made the Harvester so appealing.

So, renting a Lightning would be ideal to see if I can really do it.