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They are claiming a towing capacity, which means your argument that they shouldn't cater to the towing population makes no sense. By that logic, I suppose they shouldn't install a hitch or a high GAWR axle either. Since only "1%" of the customers will use them.
The vehicles are 80" wide but 220" and 208" long. It's not shorter to route from the back. But that argument is just silly anyway because they can install the charge control hardware anywhere they like.
Most chargers of every brand are pull in, so a rear port all but guarantees the necessity of dropping a trailer. There aren't going to be large-scale replacement with pull-through or pull-along chargers, which would be asking the charging companies to cater to an even smaller percent of customers than a company selling a tow vehicle with a front right charge port.
I know I won't be replacing my Lightning as a tow vehicle with one that's configured poorly, And putting the charge port in the rear is very poor configuration. To me it's the most concerning part of the configuration. The tow capacity isn't an issue for me. The tow range isn't an issue for me. But the concept vehicles' position of the charge port is a major design flaw.
They can match the geometry and reach those hilariously short cables by putting the charge port in the right front. No extra cost; lower likelihood of having to drop a trailer while towing; no added difficulty for non-towing drivers.
There's no logical or engineering reason for any tow-capable EV to have its charge port in the rear.
All indications are that the charging electronics on the Scout will be in the front of the vehicle so having the charge port on the passenger side front would actually make a shorter run than having it in the rear. It would also make the piping easier for the EREV version as the engine will be under the trunk so having the fuel port back there makes more sense than in the front. Basically the concept vehicles need to swap the positions of their ports. Harvester port should be in the back and charging port should be in the front. Having the charging port in the front on the passenger side also makes the trucks Tesla Supercharger compatible even with the shorter V3 cables.
Putting it on the right front works better with Tesla chargers as you don’t have to back in. Routing “around the trunk” is no different than routing “around the interior”, in fact there’s probably more flexibility because you can tweak the frunk design if there’s any real issue. How much copper is required depends entirely on where the wires are running to; the battery spans the entire underside, no reason to assume that the wires have to run to the back of the car. The Tesla location was chosen for short sighted selfish reasons: the house that musk was renting at the time they were designing this had an awkward driveway that required him to back in so he wanted the charge port at the back on the drivers side, because that’s where he had a charger or outlet. Putting it on the right side front has advantages for curbside charging and works better for Tesla charging, with no downside. Making it easy to use with Tesla chargers doesn’t require blindly doing it the way Tesla does.
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