Adventure Key - NFC wristband

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MountainDad

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I would like to see a means to lock and immobilize the vehicle, while leaving the vehicle key inside.

A great way to do this would be to have an NFC enabled passive key, say on a rugged, waterproof (100m) watch-like wristband, which is used to lock the vehicle, immobilize it, and temporarily deactivate the vehicle key such that if someone breaks in and gets hold of the actual key, than can't steal the vehicle.

I would use this when out hiking/backpacking/biking/kayaking/etc. - I don't want to take the chance that I'll lose the actual key, so I want to be able to keep it on my body.

I don't want this to be something rechargeable - it should be totally passive. It should be able to survive smacking on rocks, being frozen, getting soaked, etc.

On my Land Rover, this works by first closing all of the doors and windows, and then holding the key up to a particular point on the vehicle within a certain time limit. The vehicle then locks and arms the security system. To open the vehicle, I first press the trunk button, and within a certain time limit, I hold the wristband up to the same point on the vehicle, and it unlocks and disarms the security system.
 
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Might not be the prettiest - but I love the keypad on my Ford. I can not count how many times per week I am outside (without my keys) and need to grab something in my truck. That said, when I started kayaking, I had a physical key for my truck - and that worked great. My VW still has a hidden physical key-but unfortunately I never managed to find a place that would make me one without the electronic fob attached. Ziplock in a drybag or drybox works-but a lot more effort.
 
I hate that when that happens. That’s why I’m old school and have my keys on a lanyard and it’s either around my neck or in my purse. I would just like choices. I would prefer a key fob. I just hope everyone gets as close to what they want as possible.
Those are great options but unfortunately most men rely on a pocket and/or tiny wallet. I test drove a car last weekend, did the routine and 2 miles after I left the dealer I realized I didn’t have my phone. It slide out. Had to go back. I think fob should be stand and then offer an app and a wristband as an option. When I bike the wrist band would be great but 4 days a week of work driving I don’t want to wear a band and if phone dies or there are issues I’m out of luck. I think the fob is good as a base then reasonable price for a second means. I’d love to say Apple Watch but I don’t wear one and don’t like things on my wrist on a daily because I do a lot of drawing and things that a “wrist device” becomes an annoyance. Just need to offer some choices and keep pricing reasonable-IMO
 
Those are great options but unfortunately most men rely on a pocket and/or tiny wallet. I test drove a car last weekend, did the routine and 2 miles after I left the dealer I realized I didn’t have my phone. It slide out. Had to go back. I think fob should be stand and then offer an app and a wristband as an option. When I bike the wrist band would be great but 4 days a week of work driving I don’t want to wear a band and if phone dies or there are issues I’m out of luck. I think the fob is good as a base then reasonable price for a second means. I’d love to say Apple Watch but I don’t wear one and don’t like things on my wrist on a daily because I do a lot of drawing and things that a “wrist device” becomes an annoyance. Just need to offer some choices and keep pricing reasonable-IMO
I’m all for choice! I’m very pro-choice!!
 
Subaru offers an option of have a single button on the trunk in which you push the button in a certain sequence up to 4 pins.

Even that would be nice.

I agree, some option in which I don’t need to carry anything large would be nice
 
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Subaru offers an option of have a single button on the trunk in which you push the button in a certain sequence up to 4 pins.

Even that would be nice.

I agree, some option in which I don’t need to carry anything large would be nice
Like the idea but can you elaborate-I’ve never heard of or seen this. Is it a single button and your input is like an SOS -short and long hold pushes in a pattern or do you mean something else? Something like that on the frunk would be cool
 
This is crazy. The Subaru trunk code programming.

Wow. That is really cool. I think the number he chose is a bit crazy and long but love this concept. Also think a small button on fob to activate would be easier than pushing multiple buttons on the fob to activate. This would solve wearing wristbands, visible numeric buttons and possibility of cell phone dying. Something similar to this seems like it would solve the majority of people’s wants and needs
 
Wow. That is really cool. I think the number he chose is a bit crazy and long but love this concept. Also think a small button on fob to activate would be easier than pushing multiple buttons on the fob to activate. This would solve wearing wristbands, visible numeric buttons and possibility of cell phone dying. Something similar to this seems like it would solve the majority of people’s wants and needs
And put it on the bottom of drivers side mirror so it’s right at the vehicle door
 
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I have an F150 and the wife has an Explorer both with the key pad and for us it’s a game changer. It’s used weekly at least. I love the way the knobs look on the interior, how cool would it be to have a knob the same style on the door handle or something that you can use like a combination lock but it’s digital.
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I would love having multiple ways to access my vehicle.

1. Physical Key Fob (for daily use)

2. B-Pillar Key Pad (for locking the keys inside at a trail-head or beach)

3. Apple Cay Keys (via UWB for longer distance and less energy consumption) so I can use my Apple Watch or iPhone as a backup.

4. NFC tag/bracelet.

5. Dedicated Scout App (may rely on cellular connectivity and not work in remote areas)

If they do offer an NFC tag/wristband, I would want a PIN to be required on the main screen after you get in to start the vehicle and for the alarm to activate if you don’t enter it in a set amount of time. That way if the wristband comes off or gets lost someone can’t just take off in your car.

I would also want a way to unpair the bracelet if it’s lost via the phone app.
 
And put it on the bottom of drivers side mirror so it’s right at the vehicle door
I think the idea here is that you would lock your fob along with your purse, wallet, backpack, etc., in the rear hatch where they're less visible.
Or maybe not. I don’t know. It does seem weird to have to use both the front driver’s door and the rear hatch to activate this.
 
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I think the idea here is that you would lock your fob along with your purse, wallet, backpack, etc., in the rear hatch where they're less visible.
With our Lincoln you place the key-fob in the center console so when you use the self hiding keypad on the outside B-pillar to lock the vehicle it disables the key-fob and locks it in the console.
 
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With our Lincoln you place the key-fob in the center console so when you use the self hiding keypad on the outside B-pillar to lock the vehicle it disables the key-fob and locks it in the console.
I wonder if that’s possible with my Ford. I never leave the vehicle without my keyfob and can’t really even recall the last time I’d wished I had been able to. But I like to know.
 
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I wonder if that’s possible with my Ford. I never leave the vehicle without my keyfob and can’t really even recall the last time I’d wished I had been able to. But I like to know.
If your Ford has keyless entry, push to start and a door or B-pillar keypad. Depending on the year it is quite possible. If you have all the previous mentioned requirements, in the safety of your home garage or driveway with the second key-fob handy, try this: place your key-fob in the car and lock the door with the drivers door lock switch, close the door. If the vehicle beeps and unlocks the door you have the feature. Now with the key-fob still in the car and the door closed press 7-8 & 9-0 on the keypad simultaneously to lock the vehicle.
note: know your door code to get in before you start
 
If your Ford has keyless entry, push to start and a door or B-pillar keypad. Depending on the year it is quite possible. If you have all the previous mentioned requirements, in the safety of your home garage or driveway with the second key-fob handy, try this: place your key-fob in the car and lock the door with the drivers door lock switch, close the door. If the vehicle beeps and unlocks the door you have the feature. Now with the key-fob still in the car and the door closed press 7-8 & 9-0 on the keypad simultaneously to lock the vehicle.
note: know your door code to get in before you start
Huh. It’s a 2023 Lightning (and 2022 Mustang Mach-E). Many people on the other forums take the battery out of their fobs or wrap them in faraday material. I wonder now if that’s unnecessary. Long ago I set a code and then forgot it before I exited the vehicle. I think it was reset when I canceled the phone as a key functionality, which just wasn’t my thing.

But the consoles aren’t locking, so maybe that’s one of the Lincoln:Ford distinguishing features.
 
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Huh. It’s a 2023 Lightning (and 2022 Mustang Mach-E). Many people on the other forums take the battery out of their fobs or wrap them in faraday material. I wonder now if that’s unnecessary. Long ago I set a code and then forgot it before I exited the vehicle. I think it was reset when I canceled the phone as a key functionality, which just wasn’t my thing.

But the consoles aren’t locking, so maybe that’s one of the Lincoln:Ford distinguishing features.
If you still have the factory key card that came with the vehicle you can use that code to set a new entry code. The locking console in theory should not be required because the idea here is it actually disables the key-fob until you enter the vehicle using your key-pad code. Good luck.
 
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I think the idea here is that you would lock your fob along with your purse, wallet, backpack, etc., in the rear hatch where they're less visible.
Or maybe not. I don’t know. It does seem weird to have to use both the front driver’s door and the rear hatch to activate this.
You make a good point. And if you are adventuring you are likely pulling something out from the cargo hold. Just seemed odd to stand at the back then walk around but if leaving it in the cargo hold it makes a bit more sense
 
With our Lincoln you place the key-fob in the center console so when you use the self hiding keypad on the outside B-pillar to lock the vehicle it disables the key-fob and locks it in the console.
I just liked the Subaru because it’s less obvious so no impact to design and just a cleaner look so you do t have fingerprints on the pillar