Poll- What have you Reserved... Let's get a small idea of the take rates.

[J Alynn]

I see the Harvester as having a draw on three types of people. One is the type of person who is hesitant to get a BEV. I feel like the EREV is like dipping your toe into the shallow end on that. It's a few steps up from a typical hybrid where the engine powers the wheels. My guess is that once people see that they rarely use the Harvester, their next vehicle will be a BEV. The second is people who have unique circumstances where they need extended range for some reason. The third is they can't wait (well, they can, but don't want to) for the BEV.

I, unfortunately, fit into the second category. I say unfortunately because I have a BEV at the moment and do not want to go back. But my wife is going BEV and we can't have two in the house. I have a unique circumstance given where I live (weather and the Midwest's huge distance between civilization) and some of the places I travel to to see family that has little or out-of-the way charging infrastructure, I have a need for the Harvester. Once in infrastructure fills in/charging times decrease, we'll be a two BEV household.

I, unabashedly, also fit into the third category. There's no way I have the willpower to wait for the BEV to come out.

You certainly are the ideal situation. We have learned, especially now having a BEV it is much easier for our needs and getting to an age that when we travel we follow the old saying “life is in the journey, not the destination” so longer stops for meals at local restaurants or checking out some shops in a small town for 30 minutes to break a trip up makes BEV perfect. Unfortunately I am probably a #3 person. I have traditional hybrid now so EREV is still a step forward and we have wife’s BEV which she will likely never go back so long as she can find a well appointed BEV when this lease ends in roughly 3 years. In fact she said the other day the RZ is her favorite car she’s ever had. Having the Lexus fit and finish probably doesn’t hurt either

 

[R1TVT]

 

[maynard]

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you should just round up!

 

[Broverlander]

I just keep telling myself they can make both and there’s no reason to take ages between EREV and BEV.

I keep thinking that too but then keep thinking about what Chris Benjamin or Scott Keogh (I can't recall which one) said about product refreshes and the crazy amount of re-tooling they have to do to install one little different part. Makes me wonder how easy it will be for them to really switch back and forth between one and the other.

 

[R1TVT]

you should just round up!

But the consistent and fractional percentage increases over last 12 months are so dramatic!!!

 

[maynard]

I just keep telling myself they can make both and there’s no reason to take ages between EREV and BEV.

I still believe this will be true - if all the components are available I think the line will be populated with both build types and then eventually all four...

 

[Broverlander]

Partially category 2 here, along with some category 4**.

**The ability to use the Harvester as a backup power source (paired with solar) for the house for extended weather events, infrastructure failures, societal collapse or whatever.

When society collapses, my six-year old son would welcome you stay in the Cheyanne Mountain bunker he wants me to build in our backyard. Alas, he doesn't yet understand the concept of money and zoning ordinances.

 

[Broverlander]

You certainly are the ideal situation. We have learned, especially now having a BEV it is much easier for our needs and getting to an age that when we travel we follow the old saying “life is in the journey, not the destination” so longer stops for meals at local restaurants or checking out some shops in a small town for 30 minutes to break a trip up makes BEV perfect. Unfortunately I am probably a #3 person. I have traditional hybrid now so EREV is still a step forward and we have wife’s BEV which she will likely never go back so long as she can find a well appointed BEV when this lease ends in roughly 3 years. In fact she said the other day the RZ is her favorite car she’s ever had. Having the Lexus fit and finish probably doesn’t hurt either

You're totally right about the stopping. And I stop often too. The problem is that there are legit places here in the Midwest I just can't get to with a BEV. I'll give you an example. I live in St. Paul (Minneapolis), MN. A buddy and I were talking about heading over to see our favorite NFL team play tonight in Wisconsin. It's about a 4:15 drive. We discussed who would drive but I can't because I have to traverse the entire width of the state of Wisconsin mostly off highway. I can get there, but given the side of the town the stadium is in, there really isn't any close/acceptable/reliable fast charging around the stadium. For that reason, I can't drive.

 

[R1TVT]

You're totally right about the stopping. And I stop often too. The problem is that there are legit places here in the Midwest I just can't get to with a BEV. I'll give you an example. I live in St. Paul (Minneapolis), MN. A buddy and I were talking about heading over to see our favorite NFL team play tonight in Wisconsin. It's about a 4:15 drive. We discussed who would drive but I can't because I have to traverse the entire width of the state of Wisconsin mostly off highway. I can get there, but given the side of the town the stadium is in, there really isn't any close/acceptable/reliable fast charging around the stadium. For that reason, I can't drive.

Did you consider the EA station in Schofield? Looks pretty direct West to East / East to West on ABRP:

 

[Jamie@ScoutMotors]

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If only it was that much in real life...

 

[cyure]

If only it was that much in real life...

 

[THil08]

If only it was that much in real life...

what’s the percentages? Last time it was mentioned it was like 85% harvester.

 

[speedrye]

what’s the percentages? Last time it was mentioned it was like 85% harvester.

I'd love to know as well. Based on our poll above, which we know over-represents BEVers:

Terra BEV= 24.6%
Terra EREV= 75.4%

Traveler BEV= 23.1%
Traveler EREV= 76.9%

 

[luke.a.johnson44]

Ok. You should still have plenty even with a BEV. We’ve been trickle charging at home and you could likely gain 25 miles or so from after work until next round of work even if 24 hour shift of time. At 70 miles round trip and presuming real world range of 300 miles per full charge and say 2 maybe 3 nights of trickle with 25 mile range gain you would have plenty of juice for the weekly commutes. And with a level 2 charger you’d do even better. 5x70 miles is 350 and with 75 mile gain on 3 trickle charges you’d only use 350 miles but have 375 miles available. Just putting that out there as something to consider.
I thought maybe you couldn’t charge at home-that’s why I asked.

When you put it that way, the BEV option sounds more appealing. Is the level 2 charger something that I would order through Scout, or are there other places to buy them? This will be my first EV so I'm not familiar with the charging systems.

 

[cyure]

When you put it that way, the BEV option sounds more appealing. Is the level 2 charger something that I would order through Scout, or are there other places to buy them? This will be my first EV so I'm not familiar with the charging systems.

We have a few very knowledgeable members here on the forum and there’s a couple threads with answers to all our questions.

I was originally an EREV reservation holder and with all the education I received on this forum from these members I switched to my reservation to BEV.

If you do switch your reservation it’s not necessary to make a new one. You just update it and your place in line and reservation number stays the same. We are not locked in until we place our order.

This is just one of the threads but there’s info on charging all over multiple threads.

Thread 'We own EVs. Ask Us Anything.'

Nov 27, 2024

I'm not going to volunteer anyone else for this, but I also didn't want to exclude anyone by writing it in the singular. If you own an EV, you're welcome to answer questions in this thread or in your own.

If you have a question, please feel free to ask. I reserve the right to ignore your question if it's rude or obviously not being asked in good faith. I also reserve the right to forget to answer your question.

I've owned hybrids and EVs for more than 20 years.
I currently own two EVs:

• Ford F-150 Lightning all-electric pickup truck
• Ford Mustang Mach-E all-electric.

I do a...

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[R1TVT]

I think owning an EV truck makes it a lot easier to reserve BEV of course.

Also - my new office now has free charging... Sticking with BEV now more than ever.

I had free charging at my lost job, but when I switched jobs, the new office did not have charging, but we just moved 2 miles closer to my house, so solid 10 minute commute to get free gas electricity! One of the best parts about EV ownership is surprise free charging here and there. Can't say I have ever rec'd free gas from anyone.

I do see the need for the "bridge" being offered w/EREV - particularly for those new to EV's, believe me. Its a "feel good" story. Because, in my mind, I think Scout is taking one for the team (to build broader acceptance of EV trucks and drive adoption). The boondocking use case in the dessert for a week is different in my mind (and another good one for those in remote places with little infrastructure).

 

[R1TVT]

When you put it that way, the BEV option sounds more appealing. Is the level 2 charger something that I would order through Scout, or are there other places to buy them? This will be my first EV so I'm not familiar with the charging systems.

You can order from anywhere, but Scout will likely offer their own "branded" charger. Sometimes OEM's pair up with suppliers and electricians and offer an incentive bundle (buy the charger and get installation free or at a discount rate, etc.). All TBD.

I own a Rivian charger and a charger from a company called Wallbox.

 

[Broverlander]

Did you consider the EA station in Schofield? Looks pretty direct West to East / East to West on ABRP:

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I love this community so much. Seriously !

Indeed I have!

I have trouble trusting EA out here though I've not had good luck with them. I find Rivian, Tesla, and Iona to far more reliable outside of major metro areas (Wausau is def not that).

There's no way I'm getting to Wausau with a 27% charge. Rivian's app and online Rivian hasn't been terribly accurate around here for me. The one in my truck is more accurate (vs. online). I'd bet I'd only get there with 10-15%. I'm more concerned about getting back to Wausau though. It generally takes about an hour if not more to get out of that stadium area sitting in my truck with the lights on and stuff, draining the battery. Then I'm in traffic, sucking more battery for about an hour outside the stadium. At midnight or whenever we'd leave after the game.

And this is where the stop time adds up. Yup, we're stopping on the way there and the way back for some grub, gas, and a potty break. But maybe that's 10-15 minutes each way, so let's say a total of 30 minutes. Stopping to charge in my truck is what, 1.5 hours? Triple the amount of time. At midnight.

 

[J Alynn]

You can order from anywhere, but Scout will likely offer their own "branded" charger. Sometimes OEM's pair up with suppliers and electricians and offer an incentive bundle (buy the charger and get installation free or at a discount rate, etc.). All TBD.

I own a Rivian charger and a charger from a company called Wallbox.

Was gonna suggest one of you experts answer for that portion so thanks for making the assist

 

[Broverlander]

When you put it that way, the BEV option sounds more appealing. Is the level 2 charger something that I would order through Scout, or are there other places to buy them? This will be my first EV so I'm not familiar with the charging systems.

There's a bit of a learning curve and we BEV owners will gladly help!

Any Level 2 charger with NACS (Tesla style) will work. Scout will undoubtedly have one. I have a ChargePoint HomeFlex because that's what my utility requires (Xcel) to get the near free overnight charging rate. It's great. bought it on HomeFlex but Amazon has it. You could use Tesla, Rivian, Scout ... doesn't matter which brand.

Install and power usage is something you'll have to think about. You'll want either a 50 or 60 amp circuit to power that bad boy. You'll have to have a dedicated breaker in your panel. If your panel isn't in your garage, your electrician will help you with the best way to route it.