Battery only or harvester.. starting to rethink it.

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I've switched from a Tesla to a Ford F-150 Lightning. I miss the superior software experience and smoother ride quality of the Tesla, but I really appreciate a few standout features on the Lightning—like its full-size proportions, onboard power outlets, and the ability to illuminate the area around the truck with its lighting setup.

That said, if Scout Motors can combine those practical advantages into something even better, then I'd switch to the Scout Terra for that reason alone.

I'm skeptical about whether the added weight of the onboard generator (the "Harvester" range extender) will be worth it for me personally, but I could be proven wrong. I really need to get behind the wheel and drive it to see how it handles in real life.

From what I've seen so far, though, I'd lean toward the pure battery-electric Terra model that delivers a genuine 450–500 mile range without the generator—assuming they can actually achieve that kind of efficiency and capacity in the final production version (current projections are around 350 miles for the BEV, but I'm hopeful for improvements or a higher-spec option).


I know Scout hasn't promised 4-500 mile range in a battery only model so take this as feedback. You need to offer bigger battery like the Silverado EV so it does(it realistically gets 450 real miles). And you need to offer closer specs to the upcoming Lightning's 700 mile range for the harvester model.

I've seen way too many EV makers claim ranges like 320 miles only for real-world driving to knock off 20–40% depending on conditions—highway speeds, cold weather, towing, you name it. I've done extensive range testing myself with both my old Tesla and the current Ford F-150 Lightning, and while Ford does a somewhat better job of delivering closer to their EPA numbers in many scenarios, the gap is still there for trucks especially. I've driven without AC or heat and there's just no way to hit those numbers.

So when Scout announces their pure electric Terra with an estimated 350 miles of range (based on current projections for the ~120–130 kWh battery pack).. you'll have another EV truck that does 250 miles.

My straightforward advice: Match what the Chevrolet Silverado EV does with its higher-capacity battery options in the EV-only models. The Silverado EV offers packs up to around 205 kWh (in the Max Range versions), delivering EPA estimates of 440–493 miles depending on the trim—real-world results are often solid in the high 300s to low 400s for many owners under mixed conditions. No more of this sub-350-mile "false advertising" nonsense that leaves people stressed on longer trips.

Honestly, if an EV truck can genuinely deliver around 400 miles of usable real-world range (factoring in typical losses), that solves a ton of the range anxiety problems for most people—daily commutes, weekend getaways, even some road trips without constant charging stops. That's the benchmark Scout (or anyone else) should aim for in a pure BEV configuration.

Scout Motors' New Range Extended EV Truck Doesn't Have Great Towing Capacity, But Neither Do Most EV Trucks https://share.google/WTlBxhuAMKWksaOjy
 
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Yes, and even if charging were more expensive for me, I also think about the experience of driving all day as a completely separate factor (in my own personal equation)...

Even if my charging stops turn out to be longer than fuel stops, I much PREFER to drive my R1T. Its just not even a comparison when considering what to take. ICE vs EV? The R1T always wins for me.

That is definitely part of the consideration too.

We only have 2 kids, and the Ioniq 9 , and Tucson both fit the 4 of us plenty well. But as anyone that has ever road tripped 14hr days with children... more space is usually always better. The Ioniq 9 has 3 rows, so we could physically separate the kids, and even if they sit on the same row, the middle row is wider than the Tucson.

For the driver (me almost 100% of the time), the main benefits would be better ADAS stuff (I don't use it much, but better is better), and ventilated front seats (the summer drive to UT is sunny, and usually over 100f for a good portion of the drive).

The flip side is we know the Tucson works, and we've never even public charged the Ioniq 9 yet. The entirety of the time we've owned it (we're closing in on 6k miles so far), have been local-ish (never more than about 100 miles away). So "what we don't know" is scary.
 
that R1 is a pretty nice place to be.
Nice package.
I was kind of between that and Grenadier..
but Scout came along and I figured I'd wait.
home is not ready for charger... old panel..
 
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Yeah, its definitely on the list of things I'm thinking about too.

We did just get a electricity rate increase notification this year (first one in a few years). But it was like 1/3 of a cent. So now we're up to ... $0.010613/kwh or something like that.

And its constant rate. They have been piloting time of use stuff, but so far its very limited. And also, the pricing is horrible. Its almost double the price during the day, and like 1 cent cheaper during off peak.

I've been looking at battery backup solutions for power outages here. The annoying thing with where I live, is that for my use case, solar panels almost don't help at all with power outages, as almost all of them are at night. And even if they continue to the next day, its winter time, in the PNW, which means its unlikely to add much meaningful output.

During the summer time, I'm sure I could offset a fair bit, but given our cheap electricity the money just doesn't make sense to spring for a system yet (or design my own, which was looking sort of fun :)).
I’m at 20 years in this house so I’d almost have to pay to reroof or pay in 12 years to pull all the panels off to reroof then. Either way it’s added costs I’m not ready for
 
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