Trim names…

[weavahVBC]

This question makes my brain hurt because we deal with this on many options on new homes and making crap up that is unique, sounds different but is appealing is hard to do. I’m back to ….
Level 1, level 2,…..
What about road warrior, trail hound, nature’s escape and other nonsense

Sign me up for the Other Nonsense package!

 

[cyure]

Plus, I mean. Not all outdoorsy stuff/people live near mountains...

And then, even if you do something different than that, if you put a hierarchy on it, it implies some of the things that are bottom of it, are somehow worse.

So like... you could do things like: Plains, Forest, Mountain, Glacier, Valley, Canyon... Fjord P).

But... is... plains the worst? Way to offend everyone who lives in the plains :/.

This is so much harder than it appears.

 

[speedrye]

This is so much harder than it appears.

I guess I'm just not seeing enough from Scout to warrant different trims yet, only options or maybe packages so far. I definitely don't want any alphanumeric crap, but I'm not seeing a reason to slap labels on anything we've seen thus far. Maybe when/if Scout comes out with a bare bones vehicle to show us, I'll change my tune. Aside from the Harvester, which kudos to Scout for the name choice, all drivetrains are equal, wheelbases are equal, number of seating rows is equal, etc.

Beyond that, I do like some Americana references for names if forced to choose. I think all animals have been used at one point or another, and most big national parks and offroad trails have been overplayed. I do like the farming/tractor references though!

 

[cyure]

I guess I'm just not seeing enough from Scout to warrant different trims yet, only options or maybe packages so far. I definitely don't want any alphanumeric crap, but I'm not seeing a reason to slap labels on anything we've seen thus far. Maybe when/if Scout comes out with a bare bones vehicle to show us, I'll change my tune. Aside from the Harvester, which kudos to Scout for the name choice, all drivetrains are equal, wheelbases are equal, number of seating rows is equal, etc.

Beyond that, I do like some Americana references for names if forced to choose. I think all animals have been used at one point or another, and most big national parks and offroad trails have been overplayed. I do like the farming/tractor references though!

Apologies, but I don’t think calling a $60,000 vehicle bare bones is right. That’s $10,000 more than the average cost of a new car. If someone’s budget affords them the $60,000 versions that's still a lot of money and the amenities in the vehicle and the way it’s appointed should reflect that. It’s deserving of an appropriate name.

 

[speedrye]

Hmm, I'm not opposed to road types:

Asphalt/Blacktop
Gravel
Fire Road/Washout/Logging Road
Roads? Where we're going, we don't need roads.

 

[tjnorden]

Some of the original names were good: SSII (Super Scout II), Rallye, Aristocrat...not sure I would reuse Red Carpet or Champagne though

 

[speedrye]

Apologies, but I don’t think calling a $60,000 vehicle bare bones is right. That’s $10,000 more than the average cost of a new car. If someone’s budget affords them the $60,000 versions that's still a lot of money and the amenities in the vehicle and the way it’s appointed should reflect that. It’s deserving of an appropriate name.

I'm talking about if they come out with a $48k work truck that barely resembles anything we've seen thus far. So far, everything I've seen simply says "Scout", and it's different than any other manufacturer's style, and I'm digging it. I think the base models we're getting at $60k will closely resemble the vehicles that have been shown to us, and won't be some boring base model clad in forgettable dark gray fabric with a 7" screen.

 

[Gottesacker]

I'm talking about if they come out with a $48k work truck that barely resembles anything we've seen thus far. So far, everything I've seen simply says "Scout", and it's different than any other manufacturer's style, and I'm digging it. I think the base models we're getting at $60k will closely resemble the vehicles that have been shown to us, and won't be some boring base model clad in forgettable dark gray fabric with a 7" screen.

You know, I don't even mind dark gray fabric, but when the manufacturers take the entire center of the dash and make it as ugly as possible it's just weird. I always hate that aspect of the base trims.

 

[speedrye]

You know, I don't even mind dark gray fabric, but when the manufacturers take the entire center of the dash and make it as ugly as possible it's just weird. I always hate that aspect of the base trims.

Apparently Chevy came to the same conclusion to some extent since they're putting the big screen in all models starting with the new generation next year. It's gotta simplify building the vehicles a lot.

 

[Gottesacker]

Apparently Chevy came to the same conclusion to some extent since they're putting the big screen in all models starting with the new generation next year. It's gotta simplify building the vehicles a lot.

That's good to know, they're almost like the Scout with the low/wide screen which I like so much... but since it's canted toward the driver I wonder how it'll look in the bench-seat version.

 

[speedrye]

That's good to know, they're almost like the Scout with the low/wide screen which I like so much... but since it's canted toward the driver I wonder how it'll look in the bench-seat version.

Better than a tablet glued to the dashboard! I understand the decisions that lead designers to canting a screen towards the driver, but it always seems like a big "screw you" to the other passenger up front.

 

[cyure]

Better than a tablet glued to the dashboard! I understand the decisions that lead designers to canting a screen towards the driver, but it always seems like a big "screw you" to the other passenger up front.

Having seen it in person I don’t think it’s canted. It didn’t look like it to me anyway.

 

[Logan]

Apologies, but I don’t think calling a $60,000 vehicle bare bones is right. That’s $10,000 more than the average cost of a new car. If someone’s budget affords them the $60,000 versions that's still a lot of money and the amenities in the vehicle and the way it’s appointed should reflect that. It’s deserving of an appropriate name.

I don’t think it’s that simple.

$60k is a lot of money, yes. But does $60k automatically give you a “fancy” vehicle (high trim/lots of base features)? In my opinion, no, it doesn't. Sadly, there is no "I spent this much on a vehicle, so I automatically get heated seats/steering wheel, and 2 tone interior" sort of rule here.

It all depends on what the car costs to build. On a small /simple vehicle, $60k gives you a lot. On a big vehicle… not as much.

Case in point, the Silverado EV "Custom" (the lowest trim that isn't the work truck):

• MSRP is $58k after destination
• 286 miles of range
• no heated seats
• no ventilated seats
• vinyl floors
• Steel wheels

And I believe the F150 Lightning Pro trim was similar. Just a bit smaller in range (240 miles), and a bit cheaper ($55k).

I know these aren't perfect comparisons. But, they're the closest we've got so far. So I can totally see a world where Scout releases something like one of these here, and its the $60k version.

I want to be optimistic. And I'm not saying its set in stone. But what I see in person at the events... I don't see how any automaker could sell that for $60k and turn a profit. Heck, even at $76k thats pushing it (case in point... look at Rivian, they're still losing money on every R1 they sell, and they start at $73-80k).

 

[SpaceEVDriver]

A few trademarks currently owned by Scout Motors:

• Aristorcat
• Traveltop
• Rallye
• Swather
• REF
• Scout Spirit
• Travelstar
• Scout II
• Scout 80
• Scout 800
• Super Scout
• Travelstar XL
• Sno-Star
• Terrastar
• SSII
• Tellus
• SR-2
• Thresher
• Forma
• Cultivator
• Scout Hauler
• Grade
• Midnight Division
• Sportstar
• Harrow
• Scythe
• Scout Reaper
• Scout Terra
• Baler
• Terra
• Traveler
• Trailstar (dead/abandoned)

Trademark search

tmsearch.uspto.gov

 

[cyure]

I don’t think it’s that simple.

$60k is a lot of money, yes. But does $60k automatically give you a “fancy” vehicle (high trim/lots of base features)? In my opinion, no, it doesn't. Sadly, there is no "I spent this much on a vehicle, so I automatically get heated seats/steering wheel, and 2 tone interior" sort of rule here.

It all depends on what the car costs to build. On a small /simple vehicle, $60k gives you a lot. On a big vehicle… not as much.

Case in point, the Silverado EV "Custom" (the lowest trim that isn't the work truck):

• MSRP is $58k after destination
• 286 miles of range
• no heated seats
• no ventilated seats
• vinyl floors
• Steel wheels

And I believe the F150 Lightning Pro trim was similar. Just a bit smaller in range (240 miles), and a bit cheaper ($55k).

I know these aren't perfect comparisons. But, they're the closest we've got so far. So I can totally see a world where Scout releases something like one of these here, and its the $60k version.

I want to be optimistic. And I'm not saying its set in stone. But what I see in person at the events... I don't see how any automaker could sell that for $60k and turn a profit. Heck, even at $76k thats pushing it (case in point... look at Rivian, they're still losing money on every R1 they sell, and they start at $73-80k).

I get it but then I look at much much less expensive cars and they have heated seats etc. Yes they are bigger, but for $60,000 I expect heated seats.

 

[J Alynn]

You could be on your something there. Maybe a base camp but that implies base and camping Plateau? Gotta be a good mid level name somewhere in the mix

 

[Gottesacker]

Having seen it in person I don’t think it’s canted. It didn’t look like it to me anyway.

The Silverado screen is canted. Which I prefer the Scout screen being flat against the dash. I also like that the dash slightly creeps over the screen too, instead of the screen just ending in the air.

A few trademarks currently owned by Scout Motors:

The Reaper, Scythe, Harrow, Baler, Thresher, Swather. I love all of those. That would definitely be the direction if it were solely my choice.

 

[J Alynn]

Some of the original names were good: SSII (Super Scout II), Rallye, Aristocrat...not sure I would reuse Red Carpet or Champagne though

But weren’t those more like editions or major packages vs. say level 1,2,3…?

 

[J Alynn]

The Silverado screen is canted. Which I prefer the Scout screen being flat against the dash. I also like that the dash slightly creeps over the screen too, instead of the screen just ending in the air.


The Reaper, Scythe, Harrow, Baler, Thresher, Swather. I love all of those. That would definitely be the direction if it were solely my choice.

I see these as special editions rather than levels

 

[cyure]

I see these as special editions rather than levels

Same.