In one of the things I read or watched on the Slate, they mentioned that going to power windows would've cost $40 more. At $24,990, I think it would've made more sense... Meanwhile, they'll probably charge $350 for two motors and switches for someone to upgrade their own.
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Yeah, it seems like I’ve heard more than once that the reason you don’t see crank windows anymore is because electric ones are actually cheaper for the manufacturer. ( I don’t remember the details but I saw it on the internet so it must be true). Anyway it seemed like an odd choice for slate. Plus I still don’t truly understand how , with all the options they removed to save money, it’s still $25k. But I like the concept.
Slate is being deceptive by not including shipping in the price, which could be $1,400-2,000. I hope Scout doesn't take this path to achieve an under $60k price.
Have you seen a window sticker and TOTAL MSRP? I assume shipping price is equivalent to "destination charge" in this case?
I ask b/c the destination fee (according to KBB) must be clearly itemized on the vehicle’s window sticker, separate from the MSRP, and cannot be eliminated.
I ask b/c the destination fee (according to KBB) must be clearly itemized on the vehicle’s window sticker, separate from the MSRP, and cannot be eliminated.
OK, well now I'm confused. Because that clearly states that the destination charge is NOT included, but I have no dog in this fight.
No manufacturer includes destination charges in their MSRP or advertised price; it’s always another $1-2k above MSRP to get the vehicle delivered. Slate not including it is no more deceptive than every other advertised MSRP.
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Tesla will be gone once SpaceX buys them out to build automotive ai chips. So they don’t make the cut. Also they are like chinas EVs good for short term 3-5 years. Unlike Rivian and Lucid that are building EVs that can last 6-10 years, and tens of thousands of miles. Just the batteries from Rivian and Lucid last longer health wise and range wise.
I hope Scout is taking notes from them and not Tesla
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Tesla will be gone once SpaceX buys them out to build automotive ai chips. So they don’t make the cut. Also they are like chinas EVs good for short term 3-5 years. Unlike Rivian and Lucid that are building EVs that can last 6-10 years, and tens of thousands of miles. Just the batteries from Rivian and Lucid last longer health wise and range wise.
I hope Scout is taking notes from them and not Tesla
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Come on Rivian. We need a Trader Joe’s and Costco in town. The more shifts they add the more people move in for jobs and the more new businesses we get in town.Topical to @THil08's last post
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While I agree that Elon may wake up one day and shift Tesla from making cars to licensing FSD tech or robots or cybercabs or whatever fever dream he had that night, I vehemently disagree on your "short term" comment. Care to tell me what that is based upon? I have been driving Tesla's since 2010. My 2010 Roadster was still running great with only routine maintenance when I sold it in 2021 with 70k miles on it. My wife bought a 2012 Model S and aside from a very early drive unit failure (hers was #1,459 down the line and the unit failed within months) it ran perfectly for 6 years and 80k miles. She actually wanted to keep her first one but once we moved back to OK I wanted her to have AWD so we replaced it with a 2018 model and it is running great and currently at 91k miles. My 2022 Model X Plaid is at 73k miles and also running like a top.
Bottom line, Rivian, Lucid, etc are much newer companies. The oldest Rivians and Lucids on the road are not even 5 years old. The jury is absolutely still out on whether their vehicles will last. Aren't there media reports that Rivian has the worst quality ratings in the industry but customers still love them?
Don't get me wrong, I want all of these companies to survive - more choices for consumers is better and helps keep prices in check. But I think you are "making stuff up" with your statement.
I would take all of these "media reports" with a grain of salt, there are good and bad reports on virtually ALL EV's out there...
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I would take all of these "media reports" with a grain of salt, there are good and bad reports on virtually ALL EV's out there...
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I don't trust JD Power at all nowadays as all of their "quality" rankings are BS when you read the fine print. Just manipulate some words/definitions and you can make Fiat or Alfa Romeo top the quality lists. Quality used to relate more to long-term reliability, but there's no such connection now.
My other issue with JD is you go into buying a Mercedes with certain expectations so when anything goes wrong people complain. You buy a Mitsubishi and it’s a bit different expectation so if you have no issues then you think it is good and ratings look way better while the premium cars take a beating. Lexus is always on top but otherwise I think the buyer’s expectations influence this based on experience
How much of that is from the more premium brands trying to reinvent the wheel to differentiate themselves from "lesser" brands, while all they're doing is making driving more difficult/complicated?
Exactly what I said - Poor initial quality but customers love them - both of those can be true at the same time. Tesla had initial quality issues (as I said my wife's Model S drive unit failed very early) but they take care of the problems and keep their customers happy. That is the key. Obviously we want our Scouts to be perfect but as long as they communicate and care about fixing anything that comes up people will give them some slack.Rivian Posts Worst Scores On Quality Study (Maybe) - AOL
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