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Today I test drove the Subaru Uncharted.

TL;DR: It’s fine.

First impressions:
The very first thing I noticed was that there’s no rear windshield wiper. That’s a major strike against it. If it had a halfway-decently-engineered coefficient of drag, that might have given them a half-point recovery, but the vehicle doesn’t and it’s a stupid oversight.

The normal, mechanical door handles are good. They just work. The placement of the rear door handle (near the top of the door and recessed) is okay, but it’s not clear why you would design a rear door handle that’s too high for a kid to reach.

The steering wheel is very small but also felt oversized for the cabin space. It was weird. It also does not interfere with my view of the instrument cluster, so that was good. The adjustment of the steering wheel is fully mechanical: Pull a friction lever, set the wheel where you want, press the lever, and you’re done. This is far, far superior to having to hunt and peck on a screen and then clickity-click scroll your way to where you want the wheel. This is how our Mustang’s wheel is adjusted.

The mirror controls are what and where they should be: mechanical buttons and d-pads on the door.

The HVAC is mostly touch-screen, but the vents are mechanical.

The shifter has a nice mechanism to avoid accidental rotation: you push down on the dial before you can turn it. I appreciate when a vehicle has a gate or requires a positive action to make something happen. Both of our Fords have a dial shifter (I replaced the lever shifter in the Lightning with a dial), and they both have the shifter down on the console by the right hand. That’s where the Uncharted’s shifter is as well. The location is not my favorite; I’d prefer to have more storage there and to have the shifter on a stalk or somewhere else.

There’s a push-to-start button and it works perfectly well. It wasn’t even particularly difficult to discover its location .

When I shifted into reverse, the cameras came on, but they were not as instant as the R1S or Gravity. They are also not as high quality: neither in resolution nor in lens quality. This is a sub-$40k vehicle, but it’s still a little disappointing that the quality isn’t as high as it could be.

On the Road:
It took me a bit to figure out the regen settings. They’re paddle shifters and I was vainly hunting through the menus trying to find the right location. The Uncharted does not seem to have a true One Pedal Drive option. Regen will slow you to about 3-4 mph, but, as far as I know, it will not stop the vehicle. And if you put it into “gear” without holding the brake, it will start rolling. I believe there’s a setting you can engage to “hold” once you’ve brought the vehicle to a full stop with the brake pedal. I don’t let my foot off the brake while stopped at a light even when using 1-PD, so I don’t much care about the creeping forward behavior. But it was different from the Mustang, so I noted it.

The Uncharted has reasonable acceleration: I could easily get up to full speed before the end of the on-ramp to the freeway. But it’s not stupid and unnecessarily quick.

I took the Uncharted onto a gravel road with washboards and it handles the washboards much better than the Mustang does. You could tell the washboards are there, but the rear view mirror isn’t rattling around and your fillings don’t fall out of your teeth.

The adaptive cruise control is fine. It’s in a different spot from the Mustang so it took me a second to figure it out. But there was nothing problematic with it.

It handles like a Crosstrek, which we’ve owned. For its size and power, it’s nimble, but not especially-so. It’s a little slower to respond to steering input and accelerator input, though the acceleration and deceleration are still infinitely quicker than a gas vehicle. I had no worries about flooring it and getting “instant” response. It just isn’t an R1S or a Gravity. Nor even a Mustang. It’s a small cross-over SUV, not pretending to be something it’s not. What you see is what you get. I can appreciate that.


Other Features:

It feels like the size car it is, which is medium/small. There is no frunk. The rear cargo area is small. I would not fit into the rear seats.

It has Android Auto and CarPlay.

The interface on the screen is neither quick nor slow. It’s fine. The organization of details, etc is not entirely obvious, but I’m sure after time I’d learn where things are buried.

I didn’t have a chance to play with the maps application. The sales dude rode with me so I couldn’t do a full hour test drive.

I did not notice if the roof was simple or if it had a sunroof. Either way, it wasn’t distracting.

I couldn’t tell, but it seemed like the chi chargers are the preferred way to charge your phones. I prefer wired connection, and it seems like one would have to route the charging cables around the side of the console, possibly sending wires into the driver footwell. I don’t like that. But I also didn’t have the time to fully investigate if there’s some other way to route the charging cables.

Overall:
It’s a fine vehicle. If what you’re looking for is a simple vehicle for around town and for “down to the valley and back in a day” trips, this is fine. It’s not comfortable enough for me to consider it a road-tripping car. It does have the range for a longer road trip, but I don’t think I’d feel great sitting in the seats for 2-3 hour legs for several legs in a day. It’s a little more expensive than I would want to pay for what it is; the model I tested is sub $40k. I think it should be an entry-cost BEV at $30-$35k.
 
Today I test drove the Subaru Uncharted.

TL;DR: It’s fine.

First impressions:
The very first thing I noticed was that there’s no rear windshield wiper. That’s a major strike against it. If it had a halfway-decently-engineered coefficient of drag, that might have given them a half-point recovery, but the vehicle doesn’t and it’s a stupid oversight.

The normal, mechanical door handles are good. They just work. The placement of the rear door handle (near the top of the door and recessed) is okay, but it’s not clear why you would design a rear door handle that’s too high for a kid to reach.

The steering wheel is very small but also felt oversized for the cabin space. It was weird. It also does not interfere with my view of the instrument cluster, so that was good. The adjustment of the steering wheel is fully mechanical: Pull a friction lever, set the wheel where you want, press the lever, and you’re done. This is far, far superior to having to hunt and peck on a screen and then clickity-click scroll your way to where you want the wheel. This is how our Mustang’s wheel is adjusted.

The mirror controls are what and where they should be: mechanical buttons and d-pads on the door.

The HVAC is mostly touch-screen, but the vents are mechanical.

The shifter has a nice mechanism to avoid accidental rotation: you push down on the dial before you can turn it. I appreciate when a vehicle has a gate or requires a positive action to make something happen. Both of our Fords have a dial shifter (I replaced the lever shifter in the Lightning with a dial), and they both have the shifter down on the console by the right hand. That’s where the Uncharted’s shifter is as well. The location is not my favorite; I’d prefer to have more storage there and to have the shifter on a stalk or somewhere else.

There’s a push-to-start button and it works perfectly well. It wasn’t even particularly difficult to discover its location .

When I shifted into reverse, the cameras came on, but they were not as instant as the R1S or Gravity. They are also not as high quality: neither in resolution nor in lens quality. This is a sub-$40k vehicle, but it’s still a little disappointing that the quality isn’t as high as it could be.

On the Road:
It took me a bit to figure out the regen settings. They’re paddle shifters and I was vainly hunting through the menus trying to find the right location. The Uncharted does not seem to have a true One Pedal Drive option. Regen will slow you to about 3-4 mph, but, as far as I know, it will not stop the vehicle. And if you put it into “gear” without holding the brake, it will start rolling. I believe there’s a setting you can engage to “hold” once you’ve brought the vehicle to a full stop with the brake pedal. I don’t let my foot off the brake while stopped at a light even when using 1-PD, so I don’t much care about the creeping forward behavior. But it was different from the Mustang, so I noted it.

The Uncharted has reasonable acceleration: I could easily get up to full speed before the end of the on-ramp to the freeway. But it’s not stupid and unnecessarily quick.

I took the Uncharted onto a gravel road with washboards and it handles the washboards much better than the Mustang does. You could tell the washboards are there, but the rear view mirror isn’t rattling around and your fillings don’t fall out of your teeth.

The adaptive cruise control is fine. It’s in a different spot from the Mustang so it took me a second to figure it out. But there was nothing problematic with it.

It handles like a Crosstrek, which we’ve owned. For its size and power, it’s nimble, but not especially-so. It’s a little slower to respond to steering input and accelerator input, though the acceleration and deceleration are still infinitely quicker than a gas vehicle. I had no worries about flooring it and getting “instant” response. It just isn’t an R1S or a Gravity. Nor even a Mustang. It’s a small cross-over SUV, not pretending to be something it’s not. What you see is what you get. I can appreciate that.


Other Features:

It feels like the size car it is, which is medium/small. There is no frunk. The rear cargo area is small. I would not fit into the rear seats.

It has Android Auto and CarPlay.

The interface on the screen is neither quick nor slow. It’s fine. The organization of details, etc is not entirely obvious, but I’m sure after time I’d learn where things are buried.

I didn’t have a chance to play with the maps application. The sales dude rode with me so I couldn’t do a full hour test drive.

I did not notice if the roof was simple or if it had a sunroof. Either way, it wasn’t distracting.

I couldn’t tell, but it seemed like the chi chargers are the preferred way to charge your phones. I prefer wired connection, and it seems like one would have to route the charging cables around the side of the console, possibly sending wires into the driver footwell. I don’t like that. But I also didn’t have the time to fully investigate if there’s some other way to route the charging cables.

Overall:
It’s a fine vehicle. If what you’re looking for is a simple vehicle for around town and for “down to the valley and back in a day” trips, this is fine. It’s not comfortable enough for me to consider it a road-tripping car. It does have the range for a longer road trip, but I don’t think I’d feel great sitting in the seats for 2-3 hour legs for several legs in a day. It’s a little more expensive than I would want to pay for what it is; the model I tested is sub $40k. I think it should be an entry-cost BEV at $30-$35k.
Thanks as always for your thorough review.
 
Today I test drove the Subaru Uncharted.

TL;DR: It’s fine.

First impressions:
The very first thing I noticed was that there’s no rear windshield wiper. That’s a major strike against it. If it had a halfway-decently-engineered coefficient of drag, that might have given them a half-point recovery, but the vehicle doesn’t and it’s a stupid oversight.

The normal, mechanical door handles are good. They just work. The placement of the rear door handle (near the top of the door and recessed) is okay, but it’s not clear why you would design a rear door handle that’s too high for a kid to reach.

The steering wheel is very small but also felt oversized for the cabin space. It was weird. It also does not interfere with my view of the instrument cluster, so that was good. The adjustment of the steering wheel is fully mechanical: Pull a friction lever, set the wheel where you want, press the lever, and you’re done. This is far, far superior to having to hunt and peck on a screen and then clickity-click scroll your way to where you want the wheel. This is how our Mustang’s wheel is adjusted.

The mirror controls are what and where they should be: mechanical buttons and d-pads on the door.

The HVAC is mostly touch-screen, but the vents are mechanical.

The shifter has a nice mechanism to avoid accidental rotation: you push down on the dial before you can turn it. I appreciate when a vehicle has a gate or requires a positive action to make something happen. Both of our Fords have a dial shifter (I replaced the lever shifter in the Lightning with a dial), and they both have the shifter down on the console by the right hand. That’s where the Uncharted’s shifter is as well. The location is not my favorite; I’d prefer to have more storage there and to have the shifter on a stalk or somewhere else.

There’s a push-to-start button and it works perfectly well. It wasn’t even particularly difficult to discover its location .

When I shifted into reverse, the cameras came on, but they were not as instant as the R1S or Gravity. They are also not as high quality: neither in resolution nor in lens quality. This is a sub-$40k vehicle, but it’s still a little disappointing that the quality isn’t as high as it could be.

On the Road:
It took me a bit to figure out the regen settings. They’re paddle shifters and I was vainly hunting through the menus trying to find the right location. The Uncharted does not seem to have a true One Pedal Drive option. Regen will slow you to about 3-4 mph, but, as far as I know, it will not stop the vehicle. And if you put it into “gear” without holding the brake, it will start rolling. I believe there’s a setting you can engage to “hold” once you’ve brought the vehicle to a full stop with the brake pedal. I don’t let my foot off the brake while stopped at a light even when using 1-PD, so I don’t much care about the creeping forward behavior. But it was different from the Mustang, so I noted it.

The Uncharted has reasonable acceleration: I could easily get up to full speed before the end of the on-ramp to the freeway. But it’s not stupid and unnecessarily quick.

I took the Uncharted onto a gravel road with washboards and it handles the washboards much better than the Mustang does. You could tell the washboards are there, but the rear view mirror isn’t rattling around and your fillings don’t fall out of your teeth.

The adaptive cruise control is fine. It’s in a different spot from the Mustang so it took me a second to figure it out. But there was nothing problematic with it.

It handles like a Crosstrek, which we’ve owned. For its size and power, it’s nimble, but not especially-so. It’s a little slower to respond to steering input and accelerator input, though the acceleration and deceleration are still infinitely quicker than a gas vehicle. I had no worries about flooring it and getting “instant” response. It just isn’t an R1S or a Gravity. Nor even a Mustang. It’s a small cross-over SUV, not pretending to be something it’s not. What you see is what you get. I can appreciate that.


Other Features:

It feels like the size car it is, which is medium/small. There is no frunk. The rear cargo area is small. I would not fit into the rear seats.

It has Android Auto and CarPlay.

The interface on the screen is neither quick nor slow. It’s fine. The organization of details, etc is not entirely obvious, but I’m sure after time I’d learn where things are buried.

I didn’t have a chance to play with the maps application. The sales dude rode with me so I couldn’t do a full hour test drive.

I did not notice if the roof was simple or if it had a sunroof. Either way, it wasn’t distracting.

I couldn’t tell, but it seemed like the chi chargers are the preferred way to charge your phones. I prefer wired connection, and it seems like one would have to route the charging cables around the side of the console, possibly sending wires into the driver footwell. I don’t like that. But I also didn’t have the time to fully investigate if there’s some other way to route the charging cables.

Overall:
It’s a fine vehicle. If what you’re looking for is a simple vehicle for around town and for “down to the valley and back in a day” trips, this is fine. It’s not comfortable enough for me to consider it a road-tripping car. It does have the range for a longer road trip, but I don’t think I’d feel great sitting in the seats for 2-3 hour legs for several legs in a day. It’s a little more expensive than I would want to pay for what it is; the model I tested is sub $40k. I think it should be an entry-cost BEV at $30-$35k.
Hope you get to drive the Trailseeker while you're at Subaru.
 
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Today I test drove the Subaru Uncharted.

TL;DR: It’s fine.

First impressions:
The very first thing I noticed was that there’s no rear windshield wiper. That’s a major strike against it. If it had a halfway-decently-engineered coefficient of drag, that might have given them a half-point recovery, but the vehicle doesn’t and it’s a stupid oversight.

The normal, mechanical door handles are good. They just work. The placement of the rear door handle (near the top of the door and recessed) is okay, but it’s not clear why you would design a rear door handle that’s too high for a kid to reach.

The steering wheel is very small but also felt oversized for the cabin space. It was weird. It also does not interfere with my view of the instrument cluster, so that was good. The adjustment of the steering wheel is fully mechanical: Pull a friction lever, set the wheel where you want, press the lever, and you’re done. This is far, far superior to having to hunt and peck on a screen and then clickity-click scroll your way to where you want the wheel. This is how our Mustang’s wheel is adjusted.

The mirror controls are what and where they should be: mechanical buttons and d-pads on the door.

The HVAC is mostly touch-screen, but the vents are mechanical.

The shifter has a nice mechanism to avoid accidental rotation: you push down on the dial before you can turn it. I appreciate when a vehicle has a gate or requires a positive action to make something happen. Both of our Fords have a dial shifter (I replaced the lever shifter in the Lightning with a dial), and they both have the shifter down on the console by the right hand. That’s where the Uncharted’s shifter is as well. The location is not my favorite; I’d prefer to have more storage there and to have the shifter on a stalk or somewhere else.

There’s a push-to-start button and it works perfectly well. It wasn’t even particularly difficult to discover its location .

When I shifted into reverse, the cameras came on, but they were not as instant as the R1S or Gravity. They are also not as high quality: neither in resolution nor in lens quality. This is a sub-$40k vehicle, but it’s still a little disappointing that the quality isn’t as high as it could be.

On the Road:
It took me a bit to figure out the regen settings. They’re paddle shifters and I was vainly hunting through the menus trying to find the right location. The Uncharted does not seem to have a true One Pedal Drive option. Regen will slow you to about 3-4 mph, but, as far as I know, it will not stop the vehicle. And if you put it into “gear” without holding the brake, it will start rolling. I believe there’s a setting you can engage to “hold” once you’ve brought the vehicle to a full stop with the brake pedal. I don’t let my foot off the brake while stopped at a light even when using 1-PD, so I don’t much care about the creeping forward behavior. But it was different from the Mustang, so I noted it.

The Uncharted has reasonable acceleration: I could easily get up to full speed before the end of the on-ramp to the freeway. But it’s not stupid and unnecessarily quick.

I took the Uncharted onto a gravel road with washboards and it handles the washboards much better than the Mustang does. You could tell the washboards are there, but the rear view mirror isn’t rattling around and your fillings don’t fall out of your teeth.

The adaptive cruise control is fine. It’s in a different spot from the Mustang so it took me a second to figure it out. But there was nothing problematic with it.

It handles like a Crosstrek, which we’ve owned. For its size and power, it’s nimble, but not especially-so. It’s a little slower to respond to steering input and accelerator input, though the acceleration and deceleration are still infinitely quicker than a gas vehicle. I had no worries about flooring it and getting “instant” response. It just isn’t an R1S or a Gravity. Nor even a Mustang. It’s a small cross-over SUV, not pretending to be something it’s not. What you see is what you get. I can appreciate that.


Other Features:

It feels like the size car it is, which is medium/small. There is no frunk. The rear cargo area is small. I would not fit into the rear seats.

It has Android Auto and CarPlay.

The interface on the screen is neither quick nor slow. It’s fine. The organization of details, etc is not entirely obvious, but I’m sure after time I’d learn where things are buried.

I didn’t have a chance to play with the maps application. The sales dude rode with me so I couldn’t do a full hour test drive.

I did not notice if the roof was simple or if it had a sunroof. Either way, it wasn’t distracting.

I couldn’t tell, but it seemed like the chi chargers are the preferred way to charge your phones. I prefer wired connection, and it seems like one would have to route the charging cables around the side of the console, possibly sending wires into the driver footwell. I don’t like that. But I also didn’t have the time to fully investigate if there’s some other way to route the charging cables.

Overall:
It’s a fine vehicle. If what you’re looking for is a simple vehicle for around town and for “down to the valley and back in a day” trips, this is fine. It’s not comfortable enough for me to consider it a road-tripping car. It does have the range for a longer road trip, but I don’t think I’d feel great sitting in the seats for 2-3 hour legs for several legs in a day. It’s a little more expensive than I would want to pay for what it is; the model I tested is sub $40k. I think it should be an entry-cost BEV at $30-$35k.
I’m now thinking for giggles you should test drive the Lexus RZ (350 is a little zippier and is AWD) just because I want to hear your review. But you do you-everyone’s time is valuable
 
I’m now thinking for giggles you should test drive the Lexus RZ (350 is a little zippier and is AWD) just because I want to hear your review. But you do you-everyone’s time is valuable
Sadly, the nearest RZ is two hours one-way from me. We don’t have a Lexus dealer in town. While we took the opportunity to test the Rivian and the Lucid, we were there for a different purpose.
 
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I'm in love with the R2. I also have more faith of it being closer to the purchase price that’s been advertised by scout.
Welcome but why this forum and not Rivian since that appears to be your preferred BEV? Always curious what holds someone to a Scout if the like something equally well or more. Thanks for posting
 
Welcome but why this forum and not Rivian since that appears to be your preferred BEV? Always curious what holds someone to a Scout if the like something equally well or more. Thanks for posting

I’m not enamored of any particular brand. I think the engineering in the Scouts is likely to be cool and interesting. I think the engineering of the Rivians is also cool and interesting. I really like the Ford BEVs that we own, but the brand lost me when they failed to follow through and cancelled their vehicles and seem to be hiding behind “future plans.”

For me, participating in a particular forum is as much about learning about the brand, connecting with the community and “hanging out” with cool people.

I also like comparing vehicles. The Scouts, as little as we know about them, are fairly unique concepts in the BEV world right now. Gassy off-road capable vehicles are all over the place. But there’s only one off-road-capable BEV brand in the US right now, and that’s Rivian. Scout will (hopefully) make two.
 
I’m not enamored of any particular brand. I think the engineering in the Scouts is likely to be cool and interesting. I think the engineering of the Rivians is also cool and interesting. I really like the Ford BEVs that we own, but the brand lost me when they failed to follow through and cancelled their vehicles and seem to be hiding behind “future plans.”

For me, participating in a particular forum is as much about learning about the brand, connecting with the community and “hanging out” with cool people.

I also like comparing vehicles. The Scouts, as little as we know about them, are fairly unique concepts in the BEV world right now. Gassy off-road capable vehicles are all over the place. But there’s only one off-road-capable BEV brand in the US right now, and that’s Rivian. Scout will (hopefully) make two.
I feel a lot like this, but must admit that I do gravitate toward the way Rivian is conducting itself as a business - particularly in contrast to Elon when it comes to leadership. Rivian has a foundation, implemented solar, uses clean energy to power RAN's, supports stuff like MTB'ing & Surfing, but is also a wickedly smart tech company at heart.

Scout seems to want to create a similar "ethos", maybe with a bit more ruggedized edge to it, but with a similar care for the environment and the places we all want to go adventuring. If a brand is associated with a DB CEO, I tend to turn away. I also like that RJ Scaringe is an engineer, b/c it makes me fell better about my decision to take an early risk with the company. I'm watching Scout the same way. I have some healthy skepticism, but it is balanced by a big shot of optimism based on what we have seen so far.

So, I'm watching the brand and the product and trying to figure out if Scout can give me an upgraded version of my R1T with a roll-down rear window and a slightly larger bed, but with similar performance and features in a more basic, durable and ruggedized wrapper. I've gotten the 0-60 in 3 seconds out of my system. I just came off my warranty, so timing may be good for the pure Terra BEV when it launches.
 
I feel a lot like this, but must admit that I do gravitate toward the way Rivian is conducting itself as a business - particularly in contrast to Elon when it comes to leadership. Rivian has a foundation, implemented solar, uses clean energy to power RAN's, supports stuff like MTB'ing & Surfing, but is also a wickedly smart tech company at heart.

Scout seems to want to create a similar "ethos", maybe with a bit more ruggedized edge to it, but with a similar care for the environment and the places we all want to go adventuring. If a brand is associated with a DB CEO, I tend to turn away. I also like that RJ Scaringe is an engineer, b/c it makes me fell better about my decision to take an early risk with the company. I'm watching Scout the same way. I have some healthy skepticism, but it is balanced by a big shot of optimism based on what we have seen so far.

So, I'm watching the brand and the product and trying to figure out if Scout can give me an upgraded version of my R1T with a roll-down rear window and a slightly larger bed, but with similar performance and features in a more basic, durable and ruggedized wrapper. I've gotten the 0-60 in 3 seconds out of my system. I just came off my warranty, so timing may be good for the pure Terra BEV when it launches.
I am also a fan of the conservationist ethos Dr. Scaringe brings to Rivian. I see some of that in Scout, but it's a little more hidden, IMO. The messaging seems more about getting into nature than necessarily preserving for future access and everyone's enjoyment. I understand they may be a bit more afraid of anti-environmentalist sentiment that might be found in a lot of their potential customers. But I do appreciate the unapologetic embracing of reality that Rivian leads with. To be honest, this is one of the strongest pulls to Rivian for me.
 
Since I've started looking more seriously at the R2 I hopped over there... I don't get the same sense of community as I found here. Saying anything negative about Rivian (or positive about another brand) seems frowned upon unless its in the service-issues-echo-chamber.
Awh, well that’s nice to know. As a whole we are a pretty welcoming group around here. It’s nice to have confirmation.
 
Awh, well that’s nice to know. As a whole we are a pretty welcoming group around here. It’s nice to have confirmation.
Genuinely hope this forum can keep this sense of community after official launch, Once people start driving Scouts, wether they have praise or grievance they’ll find there way here to talk about things and that’s when sense of community will be at risk, because people will have scouts and the “loyalty” will start to form with some people, but maybe the heritage aspect of the brand will help balance things out as the community grows in the future
 
Genuinely hope this forum can keep this sense of community after official launch, Once people start driving Scouts, wether they have praise or grievance they’ll find there way here to talk about things and that’s when sense of community will be at risk, because people will have scouts and the “loyalty” will start to form with some people, but maybe the heritage aspect of the brand will help balance things out as the community grows in the future
I also think we need some kind of owners designation badge when the time comes. SM would verify the VIN and add the badge. That way when someone is posting about their owners experience we know for sure they are an actual owner.
 
I almost test drove a Silverado, but then decided I was too tired to interact with another dealership this week. Maybe next week. Sadly there aren’t very many BEVs for sale here. And several are just not interesting to me. Maybe I will test the Kia EV9 again with a thought to a similar review...
 
Watching with great interest: my mom is thinking of doing the lease thing for EV practice. I don’t know the current value of my Prius (nor do I care), but it’s over 100K miles. I am guessing the value is “parts,” so I’ll drive it until Scout clock.

Wondering about what’s not on the list: are Hyundais ruled out for a particular reason? I see them mentioned as “these aren’t so bad” EVs. Their models tend to look too much like Transformers, like Michael Bay-style. Pass.