Harvester Capless Fuel Fill Door

[colvinji]

Scout, please make the Harvester a Capless fuel fill door. I don't want the old style gas cap.
I have a 2010 Ford flex with a capless fill door and I recently sold my Ford Bronco also a capless fuel fill door and I love that feature.

The Capless Fuel Filler Explained​

Ford pioneered the capless fuel filler by making the feature standard first on the 2009 Explorer SUV and its Mercury-branded twin, the Mountaineer. Before spreading to other models, the capless fuel filler appeared on the 2009 Ford F-150 pickup truck and the Ford Flex and Lincoln MKS SUVs.

The system is simple. Instead of a fuel-filler cap, which twists onto the neck to seal the tank, the capless version features a spring-loaded flap that automatically latches shut. To fill up, the driver needs to open the fuel-filler door and insert the pump nozzle. There's no gas cap to take off and put back on.

The GM Capless Fuel Filler delivers the following benefits:

• No fuel cap to use
• Helps keep hands free of dirt and fuel
• Helps prevent disruptions to the closed fuel system and “check engine” service visits
• No dangling fuel cap to scratch painted surfaces while fueling and no caps to potentially forget when driving off without closing it
• Mechanisms in the fuel filler neck make it nearly impossible to siphon more than a few gallons of gas
• A vapor recovery system built into the fuel filler means fewer fumes escape to pollute the air

Why Did Gas Caps Disappear From Some New Cars? [Update] - Jalopnik

If you've got a fuel tank, you need to put a lid on it, right? Wrong. A number of cars across several brands now come without gas caps. Here's why.

www.jalopnik.com

 

[cyure]

Scout please make the Harvester a Capless fuel fill door. I don't want the old style gas cap.
I have a 2010 Ford flex with a capless fill door and I recently sold my Ford Bronco also a capless fuel fill door and I love that feature.

Welcome to the community! I didn’t even know this was a thing. I will have to look it up.

 

[colvinji]

Welcome to the community! I didn’t even know this was a thing. I will have to look it up.

Updated with more info to help people easily research.

 

[J Alynn]

Scout, please make the Harvester a Capless fuel fill door. I don't want the old style gas cap.
I have a 2010 Ford flex with a capless fill door and I recently sold my Ford Bronco also a capless fuel fill door and I love that feature.

The Capless Fuel Filler Explained​

Ford pioneered the capless fuel filler by making the feature standard first on the 2009 Explorer SUV and its Mercury-branded twin, the Mountaineer. Before spreading to other models, the capless fuel filler appeared on the 2009 Ford F-150 pickup truck and the Ford Flex and Lincoln MKS SUVs.

The system is simple. Instead of a fuel-filler cap, which twists onto the neck to seal the tank, the capless version features a spring-loaded flap that automatically latches shut. To fill up, the driver needs to open the fuel-filler door and insert the pump nozzle. There's no gas cap to take off and put back on.

The GM Capless Fuel Filler delivers the following benefits:

• No fuel cap to use
• Helps keep hands free of dirt and fuel
• Helps prevent disruptions to the closed fuel system and “check engine” service visits
• No dangling fuel cap to scratch painted surfaces while fueling and no caps to potentially forget when driving off without closing it
• Mechanisms in the fuel filler neck make it nearly impossible to siphon more than a few gallons of gas
• A vapor recovery system built into the fuel filler means fewer fumes escape to pollute the air

Why Did Gas Caps Disappear From Some New Cars? [Update] - Jalopnik

If you've got a fuel tank, you need to put a lid on it, right? Wrong. A number of cars across several brands now come without gas caps. Here's why.

www.jalopnik.com

Welcome aboard. While I’m not really looking at Harvester this is a very convenient feature which really every new car should offer. Nobody wants to touch gross gas and grime covered external parts

 

[RodorW]

Nobody wants to touch gross gas and grime covered external parts

I feel this especially with gas pumps, I'm thankful I rarely need to touch them now. Though I feel the same about public chargers.

 

[oldgeeksguide]

I feel this especially with gas pumps, I'm thankful I rarely need to touch them now. Though I feel the same about public chargers.

Waiting for wireless chargers, there’s so many advantages. Harder to vandalize, no moving parts, no touch, more secure, no strength or dexterity required.

 

[nolen]

Welcome to the community! I didn’t even know this was a thing. I will have to look it up.

my flex has it and I love it! If I ever have another vehicle with a gas cap I will be in trouble. I will never remember to put it back on at this point - so I have to get the BEV, right?

 

[cyure]

my flex has it and I love it! If I ever have another vehicle with a gas cap I will be in trouble. I will never remember to put it back on at this point - so I have to get the BEV, right?

You just have to get the BEV then, absolutely!

 

[SrfnFly227]

My 16 Grand Cherokee and 19 Pacifica are both capless. Love it.

 

[J Alynn]

You just have to get the BEV then, absolutely!

Trying to convert another one ?

 

[cyure]

Trying to convert another one ?

Absolutely!

 

[6-ScoutFamily]

Our Temsa bus at church has it. Love it.

 

[mastertroll]

Yes but internal locking

 

[speedrye]

Please do NOT make the Scout capless. These are vehicles designed to go off road, and those fuel filler doors can often get filled with muck and more, especially in mud or water crossings. If I want to be off-grid for awhile camping, the capless designs don't work well with gas cans and the last thing I want to deal with is a gas-covered, long-necked funnel stored inside the vehicle somewhere. Don't take your vehicle off road? I'd avoid touchless car washes then. Know what happens when 2,000psi of water opens your fuel filler door and shoots water down that hole? Hydrolock. The fuel filler door on 2/3 of my vehicles open in the car wash due to the pressure. The 3rd vehicle is locked internally, so no issues there, but I'd rather avoid the complication/expense of internal locking. I truly want a simple Scout without all of the little "features" that commonly break over time (I know, flies in the face of me wanting a Harvester over BEV). Give me a gas cap with a good storage solution for it when fueling up.

 

[J Alynn]

Please do NOT make the Scout capless. These are vehicles designed to go off road, and those fuel filler doors can often get filled with muck and more, especially in mud or water crossings. If I want to be off-grid for awhile camping, the capless designs don't work well with gas cans and the last thing I want to deal with is a gas-covered, long-necked funnel stored inside the vehicle somewhere. Don't take your vehicle off road? I'd avoid touchless car washes then. Know what happens when 2,000psi of water opens your fuel filler door and shoots water down that hole? Hydrolock. The fuel filler door on 2/3 of my vehicles open in the car wash due to the pressure. The 3rd vehicle is locked internally, so no issues there, but I'd rather avoid the complication/expense of internal locking. I truly want a simple Scout without all of the little "features" that commonly break over time (I know, flies in the face of me wanting a Harvester over BEV). Give me a gas cap with a good storage solution for it when fueling up.

Almost all new vehicles lock internally and mine had a light gauge gasket Perhaps the internal tube needs a threaded neck so you can screw on a cap if so desired.

 

[Cranky Canuck]

Waiting for wireless chargers, there’s so many advantages. Harder to vandalize, no moving parts, no touch, more secure, no strength or dexterity required.

You'll probably be waiting for a long time then. There's no industry standard and wireless charging is very inefficient so using them for fast charging will mean slower time, more expensive charging sessions, issues aligning the vehicle with the charging pad (people have a hard enough time parking properly in a normal parking spot!), and more waste heat (which is an obvious symptom of them being less efficient). They also have issues in places that get snow and are more expensive to install and maintain than already-expensive DC fast chargers. As such, I don't really see them becoming a thing. It's cheaper and easier to just plug a conductor into a car, especially now that everyone has standardized around the much more elegant NACS connector.

DC fast charging is a solved problem. Wireless charging might be an option for home charging...maybe but it's more complicated and expensive to install than a simple Level 2 charger so I don't really see it becoming a thing there either. NACS AC cables are not much harder to use than a normal extension cord so no real strength or dexterity required there either.

 

[colvinji]

Please do NOT make the Scout capless. These are vehicles designed to go off road, and those fuel filler doors can often get filled with muck and more, especially in mud or water crossings. If I want to be off-grid for awhile camping, the capless designs don't work well with gas cans and the last thing I want to deal with is a gas-covered, long-necked funnel stored inside the vehicle somewhere. Don't take your vehicle off road? I'd avoid touchless car washes then. Know what happens when 2,000psi of water opens your fuel filler door and shoots water down that hole? Hydrolock. The fuel filler door on 2/3 of my vehicles open in the car wash due to the pressure. The 3rd vehicle is locked internally, so no issues there, but I'd rather avoid the complication/expense of internal locking. I truly want a simple Scout without all of the little "features" that commonly break over time (I know, flies in the face of me wanting a Harvester over BEV). Give me a gas cap with a good storage solution for it when fueling up.

I have to ask—who’s actually off‑roading in a way that packs mud inside the fuel door? If you’re in three or four feet of muck, high enough to flow over the gas door, you’ve got much bigger problems than a capless filler. I’ve been off‑roading my whole life. Muddy water? Sure. Chunks of mud all over the sides and undercarriage? Absolutely. Inside the fuel door? Not once.

And if someone plans to take their Scout that deep into water, the fuel door should be the least of their worries. The battery pack, drive motors, and electronics being fully submerged would be a far more serious concern long before the filler area ever becomes an issue.

The reality is that 90% of Scouts will never see true off‑road conditions anyway. Ford Broncos use a capless fuel system, and it works flawlessly. This really feels like a non‑issue being blown out of proportion.

 

[J Alynn]

I have to ask—who’s actually off‑roading in a way that packs mud inside the fuel door? If you’re in three or four feet of muck, high enough to flow over the gas door, you’ve got much bigger problems than a capless filler. I’ve been off‑roading my whole life. Muddy water? Sure. Chunks of mud all over the sides and undercarriage? Absolutely. Inside the fuel door? Not once.

And if someone plans to take their Scout that deep into water, the fuel door should be the least of their worries. The battery pack, drive motors, and electronics being fully submerged would be a far more serious concern long before the filler area ever becomes an issue.

The reality is that 90% of Scouts will never see true off‑road conditions anyway. Ford Broncos use a capless fuel system, and it works flawlessly. This really feels like a non‑issue being blown out of proportion.

Glad someone else said it. I was quietly waiting for thanks

 

[nolen]

Trying to convert another one ?

I had already changed over to BEV anyway

 

[J Alynn]

I had already changed over to BEV anyway

You know @cyure gets $50 off for every member she announces she’s converted to BEV.