Make steering wheel sportier

[tonydibiasiojr]

The steering wheel design needs to look a bit more sporty I think. Currently looks like it came out of my grandpa’s Buick! Like flat bottom but more rounded at top. Needs to be three spoke as well. Two spoke is what I think makes it look like an old man’s car.

 

[SpaceEVDriver]

I wonder if something like that keeping everything on could be achieved using one of those aux buttons by the steering wheel, which would only be one flick of a switch too. Maybe you could even have a sub menu so it could be configured to keep everything on, just climate, or some other combination of things.

I mean, that’s what the Start/Stop button is. Right there in easy reach.

 

[J Alynn]

Agreed. No change for Harvester. @cyure I thought you were all-in on full BEV?

I'm sure it could be disabled in software so that would be my vote if they insist on having it. No need for a second wheel - I will just ignore it.

Print a custom sticker top like ‘eject button’ or ‘machine guns’ or ‘beer dispenser’. You get the gist

 

[cyure]

Print a custom sticker top like ‘eject button’ or ‘machine guns’ or ‘beer dispenser’. You get the gist

Okay this is the wheel in my son’s Elantra N. The blue buttons one puts it in N mode and the other your custom N mode and that red button give you 10 more horsepower for 20 seconds. .

So if you don’t need to to start it make that button do something else.

 

[strider]

It’s not “needed” in EVs for very simplistic uses of EVs, but I use my truck for working on the ranch and having to deal with the machine shutting itself off automatically would make it so much of a pain that it wouldn’t be worth owning such a truck.

A simple compromise would be keep the button and have a toggle in the UI to turn on/off auto-start.

I know we're going around on this but this use case still makes no sense to me. The car is literally ready in seconds. In the time it takes for you to open the door, sit down, and press the brake pedal it is ready to go into drive. I fail to see how keeping the car "on" saves you any time. Do you want to keep the radio or HVAC on or something? You're also making a huge assumption that the car will stay "on" without a driver in the seat and the door closed.

My "simplistic use case" is how I believe 99% of Scouts will be used. Your use sounds like a corner case but what do I know....

I did some digging in the Lightning Owner's manual and there seems to be some kind of "Vehicle Power Down Timer" but it doesn't say what the time options are, only how to turn it on or off. Does the Lightning take a long time to boot up or something?

All that to say, yes, just like shift paddles, the button could be there and there could be a profile setting to disable it (although I like @Chaz26's idea that there could be a multifunction button that you could program to do whatever you want vs a dedicated on/off button).

 

[nolen]

I wonder if something like that keeping everything on could be achieved using one of those aux buttons by the steering wheel, which would only be one flick of a switch too. Maybe you could even have a sub menu so it could be configured to keep everything on, just climate, or some other combination of things.

I wouldn’t object to having the on/off be on of the switches on the ceiling near the compass. Make it feel like you’re preparing for takeoff or something

 

[J Alynn]

I know we're going around on this but this use case still makes no sense to me. The car is literally ready in seconds. In the time it takes for you to open the door, sit down, and press the brake pedal it is ready to go into drive. I fail to see how keeping the car "on" saves you any time. Do you want to keep the radio or HVAC on or something? You're also making a huge assumption that the car will stay "on" without a driver in the seat and the door closed.

My "simplistic use case" is how I believe 99.98% of Scouts will be used. Your use sounds like a corner case but what do I know....

All that to say, yes, just like shift paddles, the button could be there and there could be a profile setting to disable it (although I like @Chaz26's idea that there could be a multifunction button that you could program to do whatever you want vs a dedicated on/off button).

I like the start/stop as I’m new to EV but the idea of programming for other uses is a great idea. After 6 months and being new I learn everything and feel I no longer need start/stop I could convert to use the button for hover mode.

 

[oldgeeksguide]

I know we're going around on this but this use case still makes no sense to me. The car is literally ready in seconds. In the time it takes for you to open the door, sit down, and press the brake pedal it is ready to go into drive. I fail to see how keeping the car "on" saves you any time. Do you want to keep the radio or HVAC on or something? You're also making a huge assumption that the car will stay "on" without a driver in the seat and the door closed.

My "simplistic use case" is how I believe 99% of Scouts will be used. Your use sounds like a corner case but what do I know....

I did some digging in the Lightning Owner's manual and there seems to be some kind of "Vehicle Power Down Timer" but it doesn't say what the time options are, only how to turn it on or off. Does the Lightning take a long time to boot up or something?

All that to say, yes, just like shift paddles, the button could be there and there could be a profile setting to disable it (although I like @Chaz26's idea that there could be a multifunction button that you could program to do whatever you want vs a dedicated on/off button).

I want to be in control of when the vehicle is on or off, not some AI, or algorithm or interpretation of my actions or intent or body position. Just because I open the door, or sit down, or inadvertently tap a pedal doesn’t mean I want the car on, and just because I stand up or exit the vehicle doesn’t mean I want everything powered down. Even if it could perfectly read my mind and always knows what I want, I don’t want it to, I want to be in control of the machine, not the other way around. I want a simple button/switch, not something buried in a menu on a touch screen. I hope that they also give you an auto on/off setting for what you want, but not at the price of removing the physical control that many of the rest of us want.

Ah, now for some deep breathing and a few rounds of kumbayah

 

[SpaceEVDriver]

I know we're going around on this but this use case still makes no sense to me. The car is literally ready in seconds. In the time it takes for you to open the door, sit down, and press the brake pedal it is ready to go into drive. I fail to see how keeping the car "on" saves you any time. Do you want to keep the radio or HVAC on or something? You're also making a huge assumption that the car will stay "on" without a driver in the seat and the door closed.

My "simplistic use case" is how I believe 99% of Scouts will be used. Your use sounds like a corner case but what do I know....

I did some digging in the Lightning Owner's manual and there seems to be some kind of "Vehicle Power Down Timer" but it doesn't say what the time options are, only how to turn it on or off. Does the Lightning take a long time to boot up or something?

All that to say, yes, just like shift paddles, the button could be there and there could be a profile setting to disable it (although I like @Chaz26's idea that there could be a multifunction button that you could program to do whatever you want vs a dedicated on/off button).

The Lightning is ready to go for driving almost instantly; that’s not the use-case. I set the auto-shut off to inactive on my truck.

When I’m working the ranch, I sometimes need non-default configurations to stay where I set them for the work session. I mean: which cameras are on, mirror locations, drive mode, etc. I don’t want those things set for work use while I’m doing normal street driving, so I turn on the vehicle, set all the things I need set, adjust them as necessary, drive to the work site, and then exit the vehicle to do something like drive a fence post or hook up something to the winch, then get back in the vehicle to drive. If the vehicle shuts off in between, then the next time it boots up it will reset all those things to defaults. That’s a waste of my time and it’s very poorly-considered user experience.

The choice to do away with positive-action to turn on or off the vehicle is a “disruptive action” with no purpose other than being “disruptive.”

 

[J Alynn]

I want to be in control of when the vehicle is on or off, not some AI, or algorithm or interpretation of my actions or intent or body position. Just because I open the door, or sit down, or inadvertently tap a pedal doesn’t mean I want the car on, and just because I stand up or exit the vehicle doesn’t mean I want everything powered down. Even if it could perfectly read my mind and always knows what I want, I don’t want it to, I want to be in control of the machine, not the other way around. I want a simple button/switch, not something buried in a menu on a touch screen. I hope that they also give you an auto on/off setting for what you want, but not at the price of removing the physical control that many of the rest of us want.

Ah, now for some deep breathing and a few rounds of kumbayah

Breathe it out -Woooo-Saaaaaa!