Back in the days when you could ride in the back of a pickup too and no one batted an eye.
One of my siblings fell off of the flatbed and needed 100 stitches in their head. I still marvel that we were lucky enough not to have lost anyone.
Cost of business back then.
Mini-vans hands down win for practicality. We currently have a 2020 Honda Odyssey that my wife traded her 2011 GX460 in for. She loves it and its got about 100k miles on it now. It makes total sense for running around town with a lot of people and stuffing with groceries. It is surpisingly not the best for road trips though. The cargo space in the back fills up fast with a few suitcases and a stroller.
There was always a touch of curiosity on my end for that concept. Proportionally it is good but visually I struggled.View attachment 6942I’ll also add if Canoo didn’t go t—-s up and offered a lifted 4WD version I would be all over it, and my wife would be driving the much cooler Scout.
2024 Canoo Lifestyle Vehicle First Drive Review: Rocking the Boat
This EV isn't so much a car, truck, or van as a rolling amalgamation of convention-defying unique selling propositions—most of which we pretty much dig.www.motortrend.com
But I guess nobody wanted an EV shaped like a suppository so my heart must go on…
The Grove sounds like a Libertarian paradise lol. I can envision a new cab driver turning down one of those roads and not having their job by the end of the night.Oh, that reminded me! I haven’t been there in years, so I forgot that it existed, but there’s a little neighborhood in Boston called the Grove. It’s all private roads near a (now closed) quarry that was built for the workers of said quarry. My sister rented a house there with her first husband and those roads had potholes the size of ponds. Nobody paid to maintain them. The city took care of trash, but as far as I know, there was no neighborhood association or anything who cared about the roads. You 100% need to get a 4X4 to traverse those roads if you live there and don’t want to have a broken axle at some point.
Heh, I have a couple of stress disorders and I also do my best to avoid a crowded space (and isolated spaces: I had a real bad date a few years ago, and you do the math there). Driving in a city where there’s a vocal pro-bike contingency who very much wants you to ride a bike or take the T (public transit in my area) or else you’re a fascist because you disagree is not awesome. I have a medical need for avoiding a train. I have perfectly valid reasons for wanting to feel safe. The pro-bike dingleberries around here are positive that they’re right and can turn this and every city into a car-free city and it’s so unrealistic and shitty and self-serving that I want to scream and throw all of their bikes into the river. It’s all these able-bodied self-righteous guys. I’ve got MS and I can’t do anything once it goes above 85 degrees. My cognitive abilities disappear. Unless there’s air conditioning, I’m more or less functionally drunk and my right leg is unreliable. These jackasses are like “well, you can get an e-bike” and I’m like THIS DOESN’T FIX THE LACK OF AIR CONDITIONING, YOU NITWIT and cooling packs aren’t enough. If I’m stationary at the beach, fine, I’m not operating any kind of vehicle. The lack of understanding drives me nuts. Also? It’s nobody’s business to tell me that I need to ride a bike or take the train instead of driving if that makes me feel safer. It pisses me off when people who are supposed to be all socially cool—and ostensibly on the same page as me—tell me how to live a part of my life that I hold sacred.
FWIW I do own a mountain bike and have owned one in the past and they’re really fun, but I haven’t been able to use it much in the past couple of years. I’m not keen to use it on roads because trail bike. Aaaaaaagh
Tl;dr I think we understand each other.
It is not for me to say that ginormous SUVs aren’t needed at all. It’s just the car-free people who need to fall into the sea. On this, I think we can all come together.
In Scout confidimus
A man can only dream.Just another fun tidbit, Scout also made a Travelette; a long wheelbase pickup.
The Traveall and Travelette also had Heavy Duty options so you could get full float axles underneath them.
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Maybe we will see a Terra with an 8ft bed someday
I don’t think it would actually sell in volume because we have a cultural desire for bigger and better.I would have to agree. I would think an awesome single door Bronco/Wrangler sized vehicle would sell way more than an 8 passenger big boy but Americans love there big cars. I blame Cadillac and Chevy of the yester-year variety of cars from the 50’s
Barn doors are cool minus the big blind spot but still cool. I would be happy with the same swing out setup on the Traveler. OR a cool rear window that rolls down into the tailgate like the old Suburbans
The Grenadier has 70/30 split doors with a tire carrier on the 70 part and a ladder optional on the 30. I test drove it twice. It’s not ideal for seeing what’s behind you.
I think you’re right, they’re wisely choosing to build for the market. Personally my preference would be something a few inches thinner and shorter (height wise), and I’m hoping that’s on the table eventually, though I’m guessing their third vehicle is more likely to be a 3 row suv. Rivian r2 seems like an attractive form factor, but I want buttons, physical door handles and one pedal braking
