Combustion Engine

[Rkm921]

I suggest you consider a version with combustion engine option. You are definitely missing the mark going without a version using 100% combustion engine power. The EV market may have its place but consider the roots of this vehicle and the reason it would be used. There may be the buyer who wants a street queen but the heart and blood of this vehicle is the road less travelled; off road cross country adventure where there will be no EV charger. Take a que from the loss GM is taking with the Hummer.

This will go down as one of the greatest marketing blunders next to the Delorean.

 

[Cranky Canuck]

I can't speak for Canada but if there was no $7,500 incentive for leasing, USA EV sales would likely not be so rosy. There have been insane lease deals. There will be a glut of used EVS in 2 to 3 years. Whether or not those owners continue with EV's will be interesting.

Once you go to an EV you don't go back to combustion, it would be like and going back to a steam locomotive. The data is very clear on this. The vast majority of EV owners will not consider a combustion vehicle when shopping for a new vehicle.

https://globalevalliance.com/wp-con...survey-2024-webinar-presentation-10-dec-1.pdf

 

[Chuckles]

Once you go to an EV you don't go back to combustion, it would be like and going back to a steam locomotive. The data is very clear on this. The vast majority of EV owners will not consider a combustion vehicle when shopping for a new vehicle.

https://globalevalliance.com/wp-con...survey-2024-webinar-presentation-10-dec-1.pdf

And I'm not denying those figures. But I think the United States is more of an anomaly than the rest of the world. Gasoline is cheaper here than many industrialized countries. EV's are still More expensive up front. Lots of people look at a monthly payment and don't think about long-term costs. Insurance on many EV's is still quite high. In the short term, I think there's a limit for EV market share in the United States. Keeping out the affordable Chinese EVS and automakers producing more hybrids and EREV's will slow electrification. Mass BEV adoption is inevitable, but it's going to take more time here.

 

[J Alynn]

And I'm not denying those figures. But I think the United States is more of an anomaly than the rest of the world. Gasoline is cheaper here than many industrialized countries. EV's are still More expensive up front. Lots of people look at a monthly payment and don't think about long-term costs. Insurance on many EV's is still quite high. In the short term, I think there's a limit for EV market share in the United States. Keeping out the affordable Chinese EVS and automakers producing more hybrids and EREV's will slow electrification. Mass BEV adoption is inevitable, but it's going to take more time here.

No doubt but as infrastructure improves so will EV’s

 

[Scoutsie]

Nobody sits around reminiscing about the old Scouts with topics like-“remember how great they were because of the gas engine”

Remember how great it smelled when the gas engine started to burn when you were out shopping for a Christmas tree, or was that only my family that this happened to? The doors also flew open in succession. Pretty sure that was the spirit of the season. Gosh, I miss that. If only a company would just give me that sense of insecurity again!

 

[Dana]

EV market is struggling. V8 or diesel option is necessary. No one buys a scout for environmental or economy reasons. Don’t turn it into a ‘car’. Leave it an international harvester scout.

The original company went belly up…that might not be the ideal business model, lol, especially 40 years later. Lots of threads on this, you’ll hear a lot of opinions if you search the threads. But, high level, EVs continue to grow market share…hybrids are starting to outpace pure EVs. 21% of new car registrations. Europe the percentages are much higher. The Harvester option will slot in with the hybrid crowd. Today at a supercharger I was in company with two other Teslas, a Hyundai, a Ford, and I think a BMW (or maybe Audi, didn’t look that close). From a manufacturing perspective an EV is less parts. Easier to get off the ground quicker. I respect your love of the ICE, but there hasn’t been anything in press that indicates an ICE is in the works...I couldn’t imagine they’d switch power eighteen months before deliveries (and revenue!). Maybe check out the Harvester option? As a 7+ year pure EV owner it is super nice to just pull into the garage and plug in. The instant torque and low center of gravity are also nice. The prototypes will be on display at IH annual show in Ohio in June.

 

[04Ram2500Hemi]

Remember how great it smelled when the gas engine started to burn when you were out shopping for a Christmas tree, or was that only my family that this happened to? The doors also flew open in succession. Pretty sure that was the spirit of the season. Gosh, I miss that. If only a company would just give me that sense of insecurity again!

You shop for a Christmas Tree? I go to the woods and cut mine down.