What's it like to take a road trip in a truck like the Terra (F-150 Lightning)?

[RodorW]

I wouldn't worry about it too much. While some people will just use gas in the Harvester, I expect most people will use home charging to save money. My brother had a Volt for years and told me that he drove it to work every day but still only had to get gas three or four times a year. It was so much cheaper to use electricity he planned his trips to avoid exceeding the battery range. If he could do that in a Volt, it should be easy for most people to do that with the Harvester.

I don’t recall the numbers or if there’s been a more recent survey, but when the volt was still in production they was a survey, and many PIHEV owners never plugged in and only bought gas Because they either didn’t realize they could charge it or thought charging was inconvenient

 

[04Ram2500Hemi]

That will always be the biggest fear for those new to it. I’m not challenging others use but I agree here. If only doing a couple super long trips a year, adjust for the EV. It’s an hour at most, but the other 300+ days a year BEV just makes better sense. I have been wondering lately whether when people buy a harvester And still have to go get gas, will they really charge at home if they don’t actually have too. I think a lot will end up just using gas for majority of their use, this negating all the benefits of the EV portion. I still respect the notion that some areas of mid/mountain west don’t have infrastructure but living in southeastern PA I can basically go any direction for easily up to 8 hours of driving and never have to worry about chargers or range anxiety. And anyone in central PA believing otherwise is just using range anxiety as an excuse not to adapt. But hey-to each their own

If I move forward with my Harvester reservation I’ll have a charger installed at home. I’ll just have to decide between the Terra and Traveler. I’m still up in the air between the two.

 

[Schubie]

If I move forward with my Harvester reservation I’ll have a charger installed at home.

Same here. As I just got a solar array installed (to capture the expiring federal credit).

 

[J Alynn]

I don’t recall the numbers or if there’s been a more recent survey, but when the volt was still in production they was a survey, and many PIHEV owners never plugged in and only bought gas Because they either didn’t realize they could charge it or thought charging was inconvenient

There in lies my curiosity. Also think there will be buyers who hate the idea of it being EV/hybrid and will just gas and go as much as possible

 

[RodorW]

There in lies my curiosity. Also think there will be buyers who hate the idea of it being EV/hybrid and will just gas and go as much as possible

I feel like at least back then a big part of the issue is lack of education from the dealer to the buyer. When I first took my car to the dealership for its 10k mile inspection, I went around and asked to speak to someone about the SilveradoEV, the lady at the front desk, checked to make sure the “Expert” wasn’t busy because I just wanted to ask some questions, he wasn’t so she directed me towards him, Now before going in for my car. I had been researching the Silverado so I knew a decent amount but I still wanted to ask questions given my interest in potentially getting one. There’s a switch or a button or something on the back of the steering wheel that I didn’t know what it did so I asked the guy and he had no idea what I was talking about so I asked him a second question about something that every Chevrolet EV has and that is the regen paddle and he again had no idea what I was talking about. I asked if you knew anything about the batteries? He didn’t even know how to explain the Ultiuim platform to me. At that point, I just thanked him for his time and went back to the waiting room.

 

[cyure]

I feel like at least back then a big part of the issue is lack of education from the dealer to the buyer. When I first took my car to the dealership for its 10k mile inspection, I went around and asked to speak to someone about the SilveradoEV, the lady at the front desk, checked to make sure the “Expert” wasn’t busy because I just wanted to ask some questions, he wasn’t so she directed me towards him, Now before going in for my car. I had been researching the Silverado so I knew a decent amount but I still wanted to ask questions given my interest in potentially getting one. There’s a switch or a button or something on the back of the steering wheel that I didn’t know what it did so I asked the guy and he had no idea what I was talking about so I asked him a second question about something that every Chevrolet EV has and that is the regen paddle and he again had no idea what I was talking about. I asked if you knew anything about the batteries? He didn’t even know how to explain the Ultiuim platform to me. At that point, I just thanked him for his time and went back to the waiting room.

And they wonder why they don’t sell.

 

[J Alynn]

I feel like at least back then a big part of the issue is lack of education from the dealer to the buyer. When I first took my car to the dealership for its 10k mile inspection, I went around and asked to speak to someone about the SilveradoEV, the lady at the front desk, checked to make sure the “Expert” wasn’t busy because I just wanted to ask some questions, he wasn’t so she directed me towards him, Now before going in for my car. I had been researching the Silverado so I knew a decent amount but I still wanted to ask questions given my interest in potentially getting one. There’s a switch or a button or something on the back of the steering wheel that I didn’t know what it did so I asked the guy and he had no idea what I was talking about so I asked him a second question about something that every Chevrolet EV has and that is the regen paddle and he again had no idea what I was talking about. I asked if you knew anything about the batteries? He didn’t even know how to explain the Ultiuim platform to me. At that point, I just thanked him for his time and went back to the waiting room.

Yeah-that’s the problem and has been. Majority of dealers didn’t/don’t want to sell them and lack the knowledge training to encourage buyers so go figure. They barely know enough about their ICE’s

 

[SpaceEVDriver]

Why would they not update that stations software to capture sales? Thats a bit unusual

The L2s at this particular location don’t have a credit card reader and they’re not in the T app, which I *think* means they’re free for brand-T vehicles and that’s probably why they don’t allow non-T vehicles to charge there. I would have sworn that I’ve successfully charged there in the past, but I cannot be 100% certain.

 

[Chaz26]

Why would they not update that stations software to capture sales? Thats a bit unusual

I’m not sure how destination chargers vary compared to Tesla Wall Connectors at home (if at all) but on mine I have 3 options for it:

1) Only my specific vehicle can charge on it.

2) All Tesla’s but no other vehicles can charge on it.

3) All EVs can charge on it.

It could be they haven’t changed the settings to allow all vehicles to charge if it has similar settings to the regular home connectors.

 

[SpaceEVDriver]

Some final stats for this most recent trip:

Total miles: 2508
Total energy use: 1201 kWh
Average efficiency: 2.1 miles/kWh
Total elevation gain: 42,681 feet
Total elevation loss: 42,681 feet
Minimum elevation: 0 feet
Maximum elevation: 7364 feet
Maximum wind gusts: 65 mph crosswinds
Minimum temperature while driving: 37 ℉
Minimum temperature recorded: 27 ℉
Total cost: $376.58
Cost per mile: $0.15/mile
Total DCFC charging stops (while on the freeway—we charged at a couple when at our hotels because of cost or because the L2 chargers nearby weren’t working as mentioned above): 11

 

[J Alynn]

Some final stats for this most recent trip:

Total miles: 2508
Total energy use: 1201 kWh
Average efficiency: 2.1 miles/kWh
Total elevation gain: 42,681 feet
Total elevation loss: 42,681 feet
Minimum elevation: 0 feet
Maximum elevation: 7364 feet
Maximum wind gusts: 65 mph crosswinds
Minimum temperature while driving: 37 ℉
Minimum temperature recorded: 27 ℉
Total cost: $376.58
Cost per mile: $0.15/mile
Total DCFC charging stops (while on the freeway—we charged at a couple when at our hotels because of cost or because the L2 chargers nearby weren’t working as mentioned above): 11

Thanks for the summary