Thoughts on Factory 37s

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First off, I want to say this upfront: I’m incredibly impressed with what Scout is building. The Traveler and Terra feel thoughtfully engineered, and it’s obvious the team is prioritizing real-world durability—not just spec-sheet flexing. I also fully understand that there’s only so much detail Scout engineers can share publicly at this stage, and I respect that.

That said, I’ve noticed something I think a lot of us have picked up on:

Scout has been clear that the platform is designed around 35-inch tires, yet a good amount of promotional content—especially around the Terra—shows 37s. That’s awesome from an enthusiast standpoint, but it naturally raises the question:

If Scout does offer factory 37s at some point, what would make that a properly engineered option, rather than just “they fit”?

I’m not trying to nitpick or second-guess the engineers here—more so hoping to spark a constructive discussion around what a true factory 37-inch package would ideally include.

Here’s what I personally would love to see if Scout goes that route.

1. Suspension changes that preserve geometry—not just added height

A lift alone doesn’t equal compatibility. I’d want confidence that:

  • CV angles, caster, roll center, and bump steer are all kept in check


  • Up-travel is preserved without relying on excessive bump-stop limitation


  • Articulation at full lock and full compression is validated, not just static clearance
In other words: it still drives like a Scout, not a compromised lifted truck.

2. Steering system durability designed for the added load

37s change steering loads dramatically. Ideally, that means:

  • Tie rods, knuckles, and steering gear sized with the heavier tire in mind


  • Wheel offset chosen to manage scrub radius, not just clear control arms


  • Validation for kickback and long-term component wear
This is one of those areas where things can feel “fine” until they’re suddenly not.

3. Driveline and hub components confirmed for the torque increase

Even with EV torque advantages, larger tires mean more stress. A factory setup would ideally include:

  • Stronger halfshafts/CVs (especially up front if IFS)


  • Hub and bearing ability designed for the increased radial load


  • Differential/locker durability testing with the heavier rotating mass
4. Gearing (or equivalent torque strategy) matched to tire size

Going from 35s to 37s changes effective gearing more than many people realize. I’d love to see:

  • Revised final drive ratios, or


  • A clearly defined motor/thermal strategy that restores crawl control and reduces stress
This matters for trail control, towing, and long-term reliability.

5. Brakes sized for the added rotating mass

Bigger tires don’t just affect acceleration—they affect stopping, too. A real 37 package should account for:

  • Rotor/caliper sizing and thermal ability


  • Fade resistance on long descents or while towing


  • Overall brake feel consistency compared to the 35 setup
6. Body, liner, and wheelhouse solutions that are production-grade

Not trimming, not heat-gun solutions—actual engineered parts:

  • Liners and fender geometry designed for full-cycle clearance


  • Proper harness routing and sealing


  • Fender coverage that protects paint and stays compliant
7. Full software calibration

This is a big one that often gets overlooked:

  • ABS, traction control, and stability control tuned for the new tire inertia


  • Speedometer/odometer accuracy


  • Regen and hill-descent behavior matched to the heavier tire
A factory option should feel seamless, not “close enough.”

8. Clear validation and warranty support

Finally, what would really separate a concept from a commitment:

  • Durability testing across steering, suspension, hubs, and driveline


  • Off-road and thermal validation


  • Clear warranty language that explicitly covers the 37-inch configuration
Closing thoughts

To be clear, I’m not saying Scout needs to offer 37s—35s make a ton of sense for the vast majority of use cases, and I genuinely respect that Scout seems to be engineering from a reliability-first mindset.

But if 37s ever become a factory option, I’d personally love to know they’re there because Scout engineered them end-to-end—not just because they could make them fit.

Curious what others think—especially those with real-world experience running 37s on platforms originally designed for 35s. Always open to learning from folks who’ve lived it.
 
First off, I want to say this upfront: I’m incredibly impressed with what Scout is building. The Traveler and Terra feel thoughtfully engineered, and it’s obvious the team is prioritizing real-world durability—not just spec-sheet flexing. I also fully understand that there’s only so much detail Scout engineers can share publicly at this stage, and I respect that.

That said, I’ve noticed something I think a lot of us have picked up on:

Scout has been clear that the platform is designed around 35-inch tires, yet a good amount of promotional content—especially around the Terra—shows 37s. That’s awesome from an enthusiast standpoint, but it naturally raises the question:

If Scout does offer factory 37s at some point, what would make that a properly engineered option, rather than just “they fit”?

I’m not trying to nitpick or second-guess the engineers here—more so hoping to spark a constructive discussion around what a true factory 37-inch package would ideally include.

Here’s what I personally would love to see if Scout goes that route.

1. Suspension changes that preserve geometry—not just added height

A lift alone doesn’t equal compatibility. I’d want confidence that:

  • CV angles, caster, roll center, and bump steer are all kept in check


  • Up-travel is preserved without relying on excessive bump-stop limitation


  • Articulation at full lock and full compression is validated, not just static clearance
In other words: it still drives like a Scout, not a compromised lifted truck.

2. Steering system durability designed for the added load

37s change steering loads dramatically. Ideally, that means:

  • Tie rods, knuckles, and steering gear sized with the heavier tire in mind


  • Wheel offset chosen to manage scrub radius, not just clear control arms


  • Validation for kickback and long-term component wear
This is one of those areas where things can feel “fine” until they’re suddenly not.

3. Driveline and hub components confirmed for the torque increase

Even with EV torque advantages, larger tires mean more stress. A factory setup would ideally include:

  • Stronger halfshafts/CVs (especially up front if IFS)


  • Hub and bearing ability designed for the increased radial load


  • Differential/locker durability testing with the heavier rotating mass
4. Gearing (or equivalent torque strategy) matched to tire size

Going from 35s to 37s changes effective gearing more than many people realize. I’d love to see:

  • Revised final drive ratios, or


  • A clearly defined motor/thermal strategy that restores crawl control and reduces stress
This matters for trail control, towing, and long-term reliability.

5. Brakes sized for the added rotating mass

Bigger tires don’t just affect acceleration—they affect stopping, too. A real 37 package should account for:

  • Rotor/caliper sizing and thermal ability


  • Fade resistance on long descents or while towing


  • Overall brake feel consistency compared to the 35 setup
6. Body, liner, and wheelhouse solutions that are production-grade

Not trimming, not heat-gun solutions—actual engineered parts:

  • Liners and fender geometry designed for full-cycle clearance


  • Proper harness routing and sealing


  • Fender coverage that protects paint and stays compliant
7. Full software calibration

This is a big one that often gets overlooked:

  • ABS, traction control, and stability control tuned for the new tire inertia


  • Speedometer/odometer accuracy


  • Regen and hill-descent behavior matched to the heavier tire
A factory option should feel seamless, not “close enough.”

8. Clear validation and warranty support

Finally, what would really separate a concept from a commitment:

  • Durability testing across steering, suspension, hubs, and driveline


  • Off-road and thermal validation


  • Clear warranty language that explicitly covers the 37-inch configuration
Closing thoughts

To be clear, I’m not saying Scout needs to offer 37s—35s make a ton of sense for the vast majority of use cases, and I genuinely respect that Scout seems to be engineering from a reliability-first mindset.

But if 37s ever become a factory option, I’d personally love to know they’re there because Scout engineered them end-to-end—not just because they could make them fit.

Curious what others think—especially those with real-world experience running 37s on platforms originally designed for 35s. Always open to learning from folks who’ve lived it.
@SpaceEVDriver You probably have the knowledge on this.
 
First off, I want to say this upfront: I’m incredibly impressed with what Scout is building. The Traveler and Terra feel thoughtfully engineered, and it’s obvious the team is prioritizing real-world durability—not just spec-sheet flexing. I also fully understand that there’s only so much detail Scout engineers can share publicly at this stage, and I respect that.

That said, I’ve noticed something I think a lot of us have picked up on:

Scout has been clear that the platform is designed around 35-inch tires, yet a good amount of promotional content—especially around the Terra—shows 37s. That’s awesome from an enthusiast standpoint, but it naturally raises the question:

If Scout does offer factory 37s at some point, what would make that a properly engineered option, rather than just “they fit”?

I’m not trying to nitpick or second-guess the engineers here—more so hoping to spark a constructive discussion around what a true factory 37-inch package would ideally include.

Here’s what I personally would love to see if Scout goes that route.

1. Suspension changes that preserve geometry—not just added height

A lift alone doesn’t equal compatibility. I’d want confidence that:

  • CV angles, caster, roll center, and bump steer are all kept in check


  • Up-travel is preserved without relying on excessive bump-stop limitation


  • Articulation at full lock and full compression is validated, not just static clearance
In other words: it still drives like a Scout, not a compromised lifted truck.

2. Steering system durability designed for the added load

37s change steering loads dramatically. Ideally, that means:

  • Tie rods, knuckles, and steering gear sized with the heavier tire in mind


  • Wheel offset chosen to manage scrub radius, not just clear control arms


  • Validation for kickback and long-term component wear
This is one of those areas where things can feel “fine” until they’re suddenly not.

3. Driveline and hub components confirmed for the torque increase

Even with EV torque advantages, larger tires mean more stress. A factory setup would ideally include:

  • Stronger halfshafts/CVs (especially up front if IFS)


  • Hub and bearing ability designed for the increased radial load


  • Differential/locker durability testing with the heavier rotating mass
4. Gearing (or equivalent torque strategy) matched to tire size

Going from 35s to 37s changes effective gearing more than many people realize. I’d love to see:

  • Revised final drive ratios, or


  • A clearly defined motor/thermal strategy that restores crawl control and reduces stress
This matters for trail control, towing, and long-term reliability.

5. Brakes sized for the added rotating mass

Bigger tires don’t just affect acceleration—they affect stopping, too. A real 37 package should account for:

  • Rotor/caliper sizing and thermal ability


  • Fade resistance on long descents or while towing


  • Overall brake feel consistency compared to the 35 setup
6. Body, liner, and wheelhouse solutions that are production-grade

Not trimming, not heat-gun solutions—actual engineered parts:

  • Liners and fender geometry designed for full-cycle clearance


  • Proper harness routing and sealing


  • Fender coverage that protects paint and stays compliant
7. Full software calibration

This is a big one that often gets overlooked:

  • ABS, traction control, and stability control tuned for the new tire inertia


  • Speedometer/odometer accuracy


  • Regen and hill-descent behavior matched to the heavier tire
A factory option should feel seamless, not “close enough.”

8. Clear validation and warranty support

Finally, what would really separate a concept from a commitment:

  • Durability testing across steering, suspension, hubs, and driveline


  • Off-road and thermal validation


  • Clear warranty language that explicitly covers the 37-inch configuration
Closing thoughts

To be clear, I’m not saying Scout needs to offer 37s—35s make a ton of sense for the vast majority of use cases, and I genuinely respect that Scout seems to be engineering from a reliability-first mindset.

But if 37s ever become a factory option, I’d personally love to know they’re there because Scout engineered them end-to-end—not just because they could make them fit.

Curious what others think—especially those with real-world experience running 37s on platforms originally designed for 35s. Always open to learning from folks who’ve lived it.
I’m planning on 33s, but I get why you all want 37s. Couple more questions:

Harvester or not, wouldn’t they dramatically affect range?

If you get 37s on the Traveler would they even fit in the tire carrier and would the lift gate mechanism be strong enough to handle the weight?
 
IF Scout offers 37s from the factory, then that means they’ll have engineered the suspension to accommodate the 37s and still maintain warranty. That means the geometry will be within spec.

If 37s would fit with modifications (i.e. a lift or adjustable suspension), those modifications and the implications of those modifications will be the responsibility of the owner. Things breaking due to those modifications will likely not be covered by warranty.

I hope if they offer 37s from the factory, it’ll be along with an upgraded suspension that’s designed to accommodate the 37s and that the vehicles without the option don’t have those upgrades. I don’t want a vehicle with suspension geometry that can accommodate 37s without modifications as my daily driver.

A key note here: Once the geometry is set, it doesn’t change unless you change the suspension parts (see the next note). Putting 33” tires (or 12” tires or 45” tires) on a vehicle that doesn’t require suspension modifications to accommodate those other tire sizes doesn’t change the geometry of the suspension. It lifts or lowers everything equally. The geometry is set for the largest tire size that can be accommodated.

Another key note: Adjustable suspension (air, hydraulic, etc) forces the geometry to change. This is why Rivians and any other vehicles with adjustable suspension can see “odd” tire wear: the suspension geometry changes as the vehicle suspension is adjusted higher or lower.

*These notes are a simplification of a lot of nuances and details. For example, to accommodate a 37” tire, the hubs and/or the wheel offsets have to be far enough out that there’s still a full range of steering control without the tires impinging on anything on the vehicle.
 
I’m planning on 33s, but I get why you all want 37s. Couple more questions:

Harvester or not, wouldn’t they dramatically affect range?

If you get 37s on the Traveler would they even fit in the tire carrier and would the lift gate mechanism be strong enough to handle the weight?
Larger, heavier tires will absolute have negative impacts to range. Some people will be okay with that.

Personally, I am wondering if I should swap my 33” AS tires for 31” or 30” AS tires if/when it’s time to replace them. I’d put 33” snows on a new set of wheels if I did that, but I won’t go to larger tires. I did that once on a different truck and saw only negatives.
 
Larger, heavier tires will absolute have negative impacts to range. Some people will be okay with that.

Personally, I am wondering if I should swap my 33” AS tires for 31” or 30” AS tires if/when it’s time to replace them. I’d put 33” snows on a new set of wheels if I did that, but I won’t go to larger tires. I did that once on a different truck and saw only negatives.
I am torn. but, all we have seen is a Traveler on 35", and a rear carrier. I really would like 33" without the carrier, I think. but, I need to see what a Traveler looks like in this configuration.
 
I can't see Scout offering a 37" option due to the hit to the range it'll make and the additional costs to support the larger size. I suspect we'll also see corporate lawyers remove mentions of being able to fit 37" tires from Scout employees soon as well. Those mentions could be misconstrued that the truck is engineered to support the larger tire size, not just that "it'll fit". It'll be known to the aftermarket that a 37" tire will fit, and maybe we'll see that as an option in Scout's in-house upgrade catalog. Aside from the engineering costs for upgrading components mentioned above, you've also got different crash tests and EPA testing to account for, and I don't think they'll have enough orders to justify the expense. I'd rather see money spent on engineering longer suspension travel from the factory as that'll benefit me more than an extra inch of ground clearance.
 
I can't see Scout offering a 37" option due to the hit to the range it'll make and the additional costs to support the larger size. I suspect we'll also see corporate lawyers remove mentions of being able to fit 37" tires from Scout employees soon as well. Those mentions could be misconstrued that the truck is engineered to support the larger tire size, not just that "it'll fit". It'll be known to the aftermarket that a 37" tire will fit, and maybe we'll see that as an option in Scout's in-house upgrade catalog. Aside from the engineering costs for upgrading components mentioned above, you've also got different crash tests and EPA testing to account for, and I don't think they'll have enough orders to justify the expense. I'd rather see money spent on engineering longer suspension travel from the factory as that'll benefit me more than an extra inch of ground clearance.
I saw a video of someone putting 37s on a 4Runner. I didn’t know you had to cut out parts of the wheel well. It’s not just slap the tires on.
 
I saw a video of someone putting 37s on a 4Runner. I didn’t know you had to cut out parts of the wheel well. It’s not just slap the tires on.
Yeah, no.
There aren’t very many stock/from-the-factory vehicles that can accommodate 37” tires.

  • Ford Raptor Bronco and Wild Track
    • From the factory
  • Ford F-250/F-350 Tremor
    • Only certain tires will fit without modifications
  • RAM Power Wagon
    • Rubbing of most tires on various suspension parts at full turn or full stuff
  • RAM TRX
    • Most tires fit without modification, but some can rub
  • Jeep Wrangler and Gladiator Rubicon
    • Needs modifications like wheel offsets and bumpstop modifications to stop from rubbing
Pretty much every other mass-produced vehicle would need modifications such as removal of firewall materials, sheet metal modifications, potentially removal of safety features such as the “crash bar” that stops the tire from entering the passenger space during an accident, and, of course, lifts and wheel offsets.

Because of the underbody construction of most vehicles, a lift on its own doesn’t raise the lowest point of the vehicle, which is often the at the control arms or the differentials, so the vehicle’s true ground clearance doesn’t increase with a lift, it just allows larger tires to be installed, which is what increases ground clearance.
 
Yeah, no.
There aren’t very many stock/from-the-factory vehicles that can accommodate 37” tires.

  • Ford Raptor Bronco and Wild Track
    • From the factory
  • Ford F-250/F-350 Tremor
    • Only certain tires will fit without modifications
  • RAM Power Wagon
    • Rubbing of most tires on various suspension parts at full turn or full stuff
  • RAM TRX
    • Most tires fit without modification, but some can rub
  • Jeep Wrangler and Gladiator Rubicon
    • Needs modifications like wheel offsets and bumpstop modifications to stop from rubbing
Pretty much every other mass-produced vehicle would need modifications such as removal of firewall materials, sheet metal modifications, potentially removal of safety features such as the “crash bar” that stops the tire from entering the passenger space during an accident, and, of course, lifts and wheel offsets.

Because of the underbody construction of most vehicles, a lift on its own doesn’t raise the lowest point of the vehicle, which is often the at the control arms or the differentials, so the vehicle’s true ground clearance doesn’t increase with a lift, it just allows larger tires to be installed, which is what increases ground clearance.
And with offsets you get a death wobble. I’m running a -12 with 33s and I’ve got a wobble for sure. I can’t imagine what it would feel like with a bigger offset on a larger tire.
 
And with offsets you get a death wobble. I’m running a -12 with 33s and I’ve got a wobble for sure. I can’t imagine what it would feel like with a bigger offset on a larger tire.
Yeah.
I do so much long-distance driving at freeway speeds that a large offset or large tire is just an unacceptable compromise to enable a some-time use. It’s just not worth it. Most of the time I’d prefer smaller diameter tires than my Lightning currently has. But I just don’t want to spend the money on another set of wheels and tires on that right now.
 
And with offsets you get a death wobble. I’m running a -12 with 33s and I’ve got a wobble for sure. I can’t imagine what it would feel like with a bigger offset on a larger tire.

It's a Jeep thing, I wouldn't understand. :ROFLMAO:

Been running 35" mud tires on my Toyota for the past 80k miles and nary a wobble or vibration, but solid front axles and recirculating ball steering are definitely more prone to the death wobble. My IFS is much more comfortable to drive, but I definitely can't keep up with the modified Rubicons out in the rocks.
 
Easy Peasy... ;)

Just increase your truck budget $$$Slightly,

@kingshocks 2.5” resi w/ adjusters front and rear
@kingshocks 600# front springs
@kingshocks front/rear swaybar links
@dobinsons C59-819V rear springs
@kdkfab performance series rear chromoly links
@perryparts bump stops
@74weld gen2 portal axles
@74weld @methodracingwheels forged 74W207 (+45mm)
@toyotires 37x12.5x17 open country rt pro
@westcottdesigns 20deg long bed rock sliders w/ top plates
@cbioffroad covert series bumper
@warnindustries zeon 10s winch

Might as well roll 41's while you're at it:

Screenshot 2026-01-08 at 4.42.08 PM.png
 
Easy Peasy... ;)

Just increase your truck budget $$$Slightly,

@kingshocks 2.5” resi w/ adjusters front and rear
@kingshocks 600# front springs
@kingshocks front/rear swaybar links
@dobinsons C59-819V rear springs
@kdkfab performance series rear chromoly links
@perryparts bump stops
@74weld gen2 portal axles
@74weld @methodracingwheels forged 74W207 (+45mm)
@toyotires 37x12.5x17 open country rt pro
@westcottdesigns 20deg long bed rock sliders w/ top plates
@cbioffroad covert series bumper
@warnindustries zeon 10s winch

Might as well roll 41's while you're at it:

View attachment 12674
How is that not just a tractor tire!
 
There are no current plans to offer a factory 37" tire. That doesn't mean we might not in the distant future, but nothing planned at this point. We merely wanted to showcase that they fit on the concept and acknowledge that some people will mod them this way.

If we did offer 37" tires there is no doubt we would do all the required engineering, R&D and testing first to support it.
 
Easy Peasy... ;)

Just increase your truck budget $$$Slightly,

@kingshocks 2.5” resi w/ adjusters front and rear
@kingshocks 600# front springs
@kingshocks front/rear swaybar links
@dobinsons C59-819V rear springs
@kdkfab performance series rear chromoly links
@perryparts bump stops
@74weld gen2 portal axles
@74weld @methodracingwheels forged 74W207 (+45mm)
@toyotires 37x12.5x17 open country rt pro
@westcottdesigns 20deg long bed rock sliders w/ top plates
@cbioffroad covert series bumper
@warnindustries zeon 10s winch

Might as well roll 41's while you're at it:

View attachment 12674
What the H. Wow now that is some rubber.
 
There are no current plans to offer a factory 37" tire. That doesn't mean we might not in the distant future, but nothing planned at this point. We merely wanted to showcase that they fit on the concept and acknowledge that some people will mod them this way.

If we did offer 37" tires there is no doubt we would do all the required engineering, R&D and testing first to support it.
As we knew you would. Thanks for reassuring us.
 
I saw a video of someone putting 37s on a 4Runner. I didn’t know you had to cut out parts of the wheel well. It’s not just slap the tires on.
You also need to do a "BMC" and cut part of the frame off at the body mount.

You also need to cut and hammer/fold the pinch weld seam.

Lifting IFS Toyotas is pretty involved.

My 1997 Land Cruiser was the last "Real Land Cruiser" the US got.

It had a solid front axle and 35"s fit bone stock despite coming with factory 31" tires.

A 2" lift would clear 37"s, but you needed to correct the caster with caster bushings or plates.

Some guys would run 40's on them with stock suspension and just kept cutting until they fit.

I will go with 37's on my Scout if they are offering extended travel shocks. I dont want to have zero down travel on rocks.
 
I can't see Scout offering a 37" option due to the hit to the range it'll make and the additional costs to support the larger size. I suspect we'll also see corporate lawyers remove mentions of being able to fit 37" tires from Scout employees soon as well. Those mentions could be misconstrued that the truck is engineered to support the larger tire size, not just that "it'll fit". It'll be known to the aftermarket that a 37" tire will fit, and maybe we'll see that as an option in Scout's in-house upgrade catalog. Aside from the engineering costs for upgrading components mentioned above, you've also got different crash tests and EPA testing to account for, and I don't think they'll have enough orders to justify the expense. I'd rather see money spent on engineering longer suspension travel from the factory as that'll benefit me more than an extra inch of ground clearance.
I suspect it will be treated like the Bronco Squatch. Broncos got the 35’s with all the suspension changes and I suspect scout will do that with 37’s then set the general suspension to handle 35’s and 33’s. But as I’ve learned here and on the Bronco forum a number of years ago already is everyone who off-roads has their ideal idea of what makes a great set up. The 37’s package will be just as much for macadam masters who want the look bs true off road enthusiasts
 
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