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Love to see Scout offer a Mobility program like Toyota and others. Of course a discount would be nice but simply reaching out to Braun and or other adaptive equipment manufacturers to get the Terra and Traveler approved to handel aftermarket equipment. We have a Braun Turney swivel drop seat in or Sienna that really helps with our daughter
 
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No. Never had an alignment in 45K Miles. You're likely conflating potential tire wear with possible camber issues with "alignment". A lowered suspension will create a situation where the tires have some degree of negative camber, and conversely riding around in a high setting will result positive camber. I don't drive around in these settings on pavement and use ride heights very sparingly. The truck also drives best in its standard height setting with the tires flat on the surface. I also found that lowering the suspension for better aerodynamics on the HWY really doesn't create much more efficiency, so I don't generally fiddle with the height. Short people can use kneel mode, which lowers the truck for easy access and egress.

If you drive around all the time on pavement in high or low, you will start to see additional tire wear eventually, esp in a heavy truck.

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Thank you, I was trying to figure it out, since a friend that has a Rivian and his is off. But he was told it had to do with the alignment change from suspension. Which is what I have been trained in for some of the BMW with air suspension. Which I have done plenty of alignment to.
 
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Love to see Scout offer a Mobility program like Toyota and others. Of course a discount would be nice but simply reaching out to Braun and or other adaptive equipment manufacturers to get the Terra and Traveler approved to handel aftermarket equipment. We have a Braun Turney swivel drop seat in or Sienna that really helps with our daughter
As an occupational therapist I'm all for this!!! The Turney seats have been game changers for so many people. Love that this is a topic here!
 
It should go without saying that air can be a great feature, and one that can come in handy for clearance off-road, or lowering for any number of reasons. You just need to be aware of how friction works when the camber changes, and you need to account for being on dirt or pavement. If you're driving around off-road at lower speeds and adjust ride height, your not going to have as much wear and tear (due to camber anyway).
 
It should go without saying that air can be a great feature, and one that can come in handy for clearance off-road, or lowering for any number of reasons. You just need to be aware of how friction works when the camber changes, and you need to account for being on dirt or pavement. If you're driving around off-road at lower speeds and adjust ride height, your not going to have as much wear and tear (due to camber anyway).
And just because air is an option doesn't mean 1) it has to be purchased by everyone; 2) it has to be misused by those who purchase it. An easy way to fix the "driving around all the time with the wrong suspension height" is to set the vehicle up so the default height is correct and a driver has to override that default. Could be an override is required every time or maybe it's part of the profile settings that are activated when a particular key ID is used to activate the vehicle.
 
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Lots of different ways to handle stupid human tricks. Default is interesting, as many people want the opposite and to permanently override whatever the default is, so when they get into the truck it has all preferences saved to a profile, as you mention.
 
Okay I admit I know nothing about air suspension. Since I won’t be going off road is there an advantage to getting that option? I understand the mechanics of it, but if this is my daily driver and for road trips is this option advisable to get?
 
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The trick is that Scout needs only do a little bit to collaborate with the experts. It's not about doing all the upfitting themselves. The things Scout would "have" to do to make their vehicle accessible-ready are minimal and really are just best-practices in universal design. And they would open up their vehicles to all kinds of other upfitters as well. It's win-win-win all around, with almost no additional cost other than a few design meetings, some design reviews, and the result is lots of goodwill.
That’s the fundamentals of all great design
 
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Air provides a really nice (and easily adjustable) ride. Also allows for easy clearance over obstacles, made even easier in a flat-bottomed truck in my case. But they can be expensive, expensive to fix & maintain, and potentially less serviceable off-road. Air is also great for camping, self-leveling, sneaking into low garages, or under an obstacle etc.
 
As a person with MS who is probably going to eventually be in a wheelchair, I like this a lot! I get that Scout can’t be everything to everyone, but who wouldn’t want a cool option for an accessible vehicle?
Sorry to hear this Scoutsie I hope the wheelchair doesn't happen for a long time. I know SM has lot to worry about getting to market but it would be cool if they could get a jump on approval from some of these aftermarket adaptive additions as it could separate them from other EV brands.
 
The trick is that Scout needs only do a little bit to collaborate with the experts. It's not about doing all the upfitting themselves. The things Scout would "have" to do to make their vehicle accessible-ready are minimal and really are just best-practices in universal design. And they would open up their vehicles to all kinds of other upfitters as well. It's win-win-win all around, with almost no additional cost other than a few design meetings, some design reviews, and the result is lots of goodwill.
100% correct and well said
 
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Okay I admit I know nothing about air suspension. Since I won’t be going off road is there an advantage to getting that option? I understand the mechanics of it, but if this is my daily driver and for road trips is this option advisable to get?
I like air conceptually for all-around driving--it can make for a much nicer ride. But the only time I've ever added air to a vehicle is to enable adjustable suspension for when I'm towing. I had some bad experiences as a teen driving vehicles that were badly overloaded in the rear such that the front tires didn't really do their job (the trucks would weave all over the road). So now when I tow a lot with a vehicle that has soft suspension, I will add air to the rear suspension so I can shift the load to better handle towing. I never overload like we used to, but I still have this obsession with making sure the tow vehicle is loaded and balanced properly. That's my use for air. There are a lot of other uses.

Adjustable suspension and adjustable vehicle height provide a lot of different people solutions to different challenges. It doesn't need to be air, but that's the usual solution.
 
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Okay I admit I know nothing about air suspension. Since I won’t be going off road is there an advantage to getting that option? I understand the mechanics of it, but if this is my daily driver and for road trips is this option advisable to get?
I’m pretty clueless too, but I gather it could make getting in and out easier by lowering when parked.
 
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