Regenerative braking

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No different than boating. You need to put your eyes on the surroundings so the brain realizes what is happening. I can boat for days so long as I can see shore but take me deep sea fishing and I’m 70% likely to get sea sick. The brain needs to see fixed land points when moving so it doesn’t get confused, which then causes motion sickness. Sound can play a role as well since we are preconditioned to car noise already. So I do like having the choice to turn off regen. At least for when passengers are along
 
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No different than boating. You need to put your eyes on the surroundings so the brain realizes what is happening. I can boat for days so long as I can see shore but take me deep sea fishing and I’m 70% likely to get sea sick. The brain needs to see fixed land points when moving so it doesn’t get confused, which then causes motion sickness. Sound can play a role as well since we are preconditioned to car noise already. So I do like having the choice to turn off regen. At least for when passengers are along
I totally get sea sick unless the boat is really moving and inhale the wind in my face. Hopefully it’s just take a bit to get used to in the Electrall (BEV).
 
In my experience Regen should be no different than your breaking you slowly let off the accelerator at decent distance and the car will slowly come to a halt, no different than removing your foot from the gas and slowly applying the brake, which in my experience is what you do to help ease those with motion sickness. Regen (in my car anyway) doesn’t pulse or force the car to a stop in 4 seconds it’s a gradual slowing process that I can speed up with the “regen on demand” paddle or the first 15% of my brake pedal before engaging the actual brakes
 
In my experience Regen should be no different than your breaking you slowly let off the accelerator at decent distance and the car will slowly come to a halt, no different than removing your foot from the gas and slowly applying the brake, which in my experience is what you do to help ease those with motion sickness. Regen (in my car anyway) doesn’t pulse or force the car to a stop in 4 seconds it’s a gradual slowing process that I can speed up with the “regen on demand” paddle or the first 15% of my brake pedal before engaging the actual brakes
So it’s my poor driving and not my car 😎😝I’ll let my wife know.
 
I like regenerative braking. I live in PA (have a BEV Mini Cooper) and my range increases substantially because of the downhill trips I have to make on occasion. And furthermore, 50,000 miles on my 2023 Mini and the brakes are still pristine. The only issue I have with the feature is that the tail lights turn on aggressively, causing people driving behind me to switch lanes. I wish there is some kind of visual feedback so you can adapt your feel on the "gas" pedal when someone is behind you.
 
So it’s my poor driving and not my car 😎😝I’ll let my wife know.

I like regenerative braking. I live in PA (have a BEV Mini Cooper) and my range increases substantially because of the downhill trips I have to make on occasion. And furthermore, 50,000 miles on my 2023 Mini and the brakes are still pristine. The only issue I have with the feature is that the tail lights turn on aggressively, causing people driving behind me to switch lanes. I wish there is some kind of visual feedback so you can adapt your feel on the "gas" pedal when someone is behind you.
Another PA neighbor
 
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I caught a ride to work with a buddy a while back. He has an F150 lightning.

I usually don’t get carsick. But on the drive back home at night in rain… I had some inklings of it.

I blame his light switch style throttle control as the root cause (literally was a stab, then Release, stab, then release). But I think one pedal driving was definitely not helping.

Since then we’ve bought our own EV. And I’ve played with both one pedal driving, and light/“normal” regen. Both have their uses. But both my wife and I prefer the light/normal feeling regen.

I hear Tesla now only has one pedal driving style regen on the throttle, and no option to disable it. That would be a bummer.
 
To be clear, regen braking is not the same as one pedal driving. What you seem to be referring to is one pedal driving, which is essentially equivalent to always hitting the brakes whenever you take your foot off the gas, which leads to that heightened opportunity for motion sickness. This was introduced because Tesla/elon couldn’t be bothered to smoothly blend regen braking with physical braking, so they sold everyone on one pedal driving and told everyone that was the only to regenerate electricity from the unwanted inertia of the car. Sadly, much of the rest of industry just followed that example like sheep, just like they did with removing buttons and proper door handles for no reason.

Properly understood, regen is just like an “electric brake”, that can feed energy back to the battery, and properly implemented, a driver never has to think about it, just use the gas and brakes as we’ve been using them for a century, while the system figures out the most efficient and effective way to slow the car in accordance with the force applied to the brake pedal.

In any case, for those who like it, it’s easily controlled by software, so those who like it can have it, and those of us who despise it with every fiber of our being (and prefer not to make our passengers nauseous) need never be bothered with it. I have faith that scout will provide that kind of flexibility as well as a decent implementation of blended braking (right, @Jamie@ScoutMotors ?)

In my humble opinion, of course :p
 
To be clear, regen braking is not the same as one pedal driving. What you seem to be referring to is one pedal driving, which is essentially equivalent to always hitting the brakes whenever you take your foot off the gas, which leads to that heightened opportunity for motion sickness. This was introduced because Tesla/elon couldn’t be bothered to smoothly blend regen braking with physical braking, so they sold everyone on one pedal driving and told everyone that was the only to regenerate electricity from the unwanted inertia of the car. Sadly, much of the rest of industry just followed that example like sheep, just like they did with removing buttons and proper door handles for no reason.

Properly understood, regen is just like an “electric brake”, that can feed energy back to the battery, and properly implemented, a driver never has to think about it, just use the gas and brakes as we’ve been using them for a century, while the system figures out the most efficient and effective way to slow the car in accordance with the force applied to the brake pedal.

In any case, for those who like it, it’s easily controlled by software, so those who like it can have it, and those of us who despise it with every fiber of our being (and prefer not to make our passengers nauseous) need never be bothered with it. I have faith that scout will provide that kind of flexibility as well as a decent implementation of blended braking (right, @Jamie@ScoutMotors ?)

In my humble opinion, of course :p
This is why I loved the regeneration paddles on my ELR (Volt) steering wheel…
 
To be clear, regen braking is not the same as one pedal driving. What you seem to be referring to is one pedal driving, which is essentially equivalent to always hitting the brakes whenever you take your foot off the gas, which leads to that heightened opportunity for motion sickness. This was introduced because Tesla/elon couldn’t be bothered to smoothly blend regen braking with physical braking, so they sold everyone on one pedal driving and told everyone that was the only to regenerate electricity from the unwanted inertia of the car. Sadly, much of the rest of industry just followed that example like sheep, just like they did with removing buttons and proper door handles for no reason.

Properly understood, regen is just like an “electric brake”, that can feed energy back to the battery, and properly implemented, a driver never has to think about it, just use the gas and brakes as we’ve been using them for a century, while the system figures out the most efficient and effective way to slow the car in accordance with the force applied to the brake pedal.

In any case, for those who like it, it’s easily controlled by software, so those who like it can have it, and those of us who despise it with every fiber of our being (and prefer not to make our passengers nauseous) need never be bothered with it. I have faith that scout will provide that kind of flexibility as well as a decent implementation of blended braking (right, @Jamie@ScoutMotors ?)

In my humble opinion, of course :p
This is exactly correct. Real car brands, like Hyundai and even Nissan have figured out how to seamlessly blend regen and friction brakes on the brake pedal, something Tesla still hasn't been able to figure out (probably because Elon is distracted by dumb robots and seems to have gotten bored with the whole car thing.)

The Tesla way of doing things sucks for a lot of people and isn't a template that should be followed by every car maker.

Some people like it but they're wrong 😜
 
To be clear, regen braking is not the same as one pedal driving. What you seem to be referring to is one pedal driving, which is essentially equivalent to always hitting the brakes whenever you take your foot off the gas, which leads to that heightened opportunity for motion sickness. This was introduced because Tesla/elon couldn’t be bothered to smoothly blend regen braking with physical braking, so they sold everyone on one pedal driving and told everyone that was the only to regenerate electricity from the unwanted inertia of the car. Sadly, much of the rest of industry just followed that example like sheep, just like they did with removing buttons and proper door handles for no reason.

Properly understood, regen is just like an “electric brake”, that can feed energy back to the battery, and properly implemented, a driver never has to think about it, just use the gas and brakes as we’ve been using them for a century, while the system figures out the most efficient and effective way to slow the car in accordance with the force applied to the brake pedal.

In any case, for those who like it, it’s easily controlled by software, so those who like it can have it, and those of us who despise it with every fiber of our being (and prefer not to make our passengers nauseous) need never be bothered with it. I have faith that scout will provide that kind of flexibility as well as a decent implementation of blended braking (right, @Jamie@ScoutMotors ?)

In my humble opinion, of course :p
Mini Cooper calls it "regenerative braking" and there is a toggleswitch on the dashboard that lets you turn it off or on. I turn it on all the time since it gives me much better range.
To be clear, regen braking is not the same as one pedal driving. What you seem to be referring to is one pedal driving, which is essentially equivalent to always hitting the brakes whenever you take your foot off the gas, which leads to that heightened opportunity for motion sickness. This was introduced because Tesla/elon couldn’t be bothered to smoothly blend regen braking with physical braking, so they sold everyone on one pedal driving and told everyone that was the only to regenerate electricity from the unwanted inertia of the car. Sadly, much of the rest of industry just followed that example like sheep, just like they did with removing buttons and proper door handles for no reason.

Properly understood, regen is just like an “electric brake”, that can feed energy back to the battery, and properly implemented, a driver never has to think about it, just use the gas and brakes as we’ve been using them for a century, while the system figures out the most efficient and effective way to slow the car in accordance with the force applied to the brake pedal.

In any case, for those who like it, it’s easily controlled by software, so those who like it can have it, and those of us who despise it with every fiber of our being (and prefer not to make our passengers nauseous) need never be bothered with it. I have faith that scout will provide that kind of flexibility as well as a decent implementation of blended braking (right, @Jamie@ScoutMotors ?)

In my humble opinion, of course :p
Mini Cooper has three Regenerative settings. 1) Coast (No regenerative) 2) Medium 3) High. It does not have one-pedal driving.
 
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My Bolt has them separated but again if your causing people to be motion sick I think that falls on the driver, I love one pedal and have never made anyone sick and these people have been sick in our volt. Smooth movement is all it takes 🤷 and with one pedal off, the car should always be regenerating anytime it’s slowing down, Regen braking is just that, braking, bringing the vehicle to stop without needing your brake pads, which is why I love the “Regen on demand” paddle stronger assistance in one pedal, you can also add some Regen while still accelerating, or if you drive without one pedal it’s a different way to slow the car, however doing it that way without slowly letting off the accelerator (just like one pedal) will make people sick because it will lurch the vehicle
 
To be clear, regen braking is not the same as one pedal driving. What you seem to be referring to is one pedal driving, which is essentially equivalent to always hitting the brakes whenever you take your foot off the gas, which leads to that heightened opportunity for motion sickness. This was introduced because Tesla/elon couldn’t be bothered to smoothly blend regen braking with physical braking, so they sold everyone on one pedal driving and told everyone that was the only to regenerate electricity from the unwanted inertia of the car. Sadly, much of the rest of industry just followed that example like sheep, just like they did with removing buttons and proper door handles for no reason.

Properly understood, regen is just like an “electric brake”, that can feed energy back to the battery, and properly implemented, a driver never has to think about it, just use the gas and brakes as we’ve been using them for a century, while the system figures out the most efficient and effective way to slow the car in accordance with the force applied to the brake pedal.

In any case, for those who like it, it’s easily controlled by software, so those who like it can have it, and those of us who despise it with every fiber of our being (and prefer not to make our passengers nauseous) need never be bothered with it. I have faith that scout will provide that kind of flexibility as well as a decent implementation of blended braking (right, @Jamie@ScoutMotors ?)

In my humble opinion, of course :p

Ah, so I sort of misread this last night.

On my Hyundai, Regen braking is on a scale from 0 - 4, with 0 being effectively none (like putting the clutch in on a manual transmission), and 4 being 1 pedal driving.

It does have smoothly blended braking on the brake pedal, even with regen set to 0. And regen can be completely disabled, to clean the disk brakes if desired.
 
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My Bolt has them separated but again if your causing people to be motion sick I think that falls on the driver, I love one pedal and have never made anyone sick and these people have been sick in our volt. Smooth movement is all it takes 🤷 and with one pedal off, the car should always be regenerating anytime it’s slowing down, Regen braking is just that, braking, bringing the vehicle to stop without needing your brake pads, which is why I love the “Regen on demand” paddle stronger assistance in one pedal, you can also add some Regen while still accelerating, or if you drive without one pedal it’s a different way to slow the car, however doing it that way without slowly letting off the accelerator (just like one pedal) will make people sick because it will lurch the vehicle
100% agree. I have had two Teslas and now on my second BMW EV. If there was something to complain about with my driving or my vehicle, my wide definitely would have done so. Probably the driver, not the vehicle.
 
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100% agree. I have had two Teslas and now on my second BMW EV. If there was something to complain about with my driving or my vehicle, my wide definitely would have done so. Probably the driver, not the vehicle.
The only times I’ve made people feel nauseous in my car is when it’s been a long day and I drive the way I used to drive my charger but sometimes sport mode is just fun