Please no erev!

[mberg6417]

I truly believe the erev is going to be the downfall of Scout. Instead of creating a new capable and practical rugged off road EV that has very few competitors, they are planning on marketing what amounts to a hybrid suv. Which has a huge market across all automakers. The ONLY reason people have expressed interest in the erev is due to range anxiety. All scout has to do is design their ev with over 400 miles of range. Also, the erev takes all of the point of an ev off the table. You reintroduce a gasoline engine, with all of the maintenance and problems. And exhaust. Scout will not survive a hybrid battle against everyone pushing hybrids.

 

[Burmster]

I disagree. EREV is ideal for people that want to journey off road and camp, for example. You can have the benefits of an EV powertrain but with the convenience of carrying some Jerry cans off grid. It’s not just range, it’s being off grid for a week with a supplemental power source, you aren’t going to find a L2 charger in the woods!

I see two main types of buyers, just like Broncos and Wranglers. The majority are daily driving and never go off road, perfect for EV. But if Scout is targeting the off roader, outdoor market, the EREV makes perfect sense!

 

[maynard]

I disagree. EREV is ideal for people that want to journey off road and camp, for example. You can have the benefits of an EV powertrain but with the convenience of carrying some Jerry cans off grid. It’s not just range, it’s being off grid for a week with a supplemental power source, you aren’t going to find a L2 charger in the woods!

I see two main types of buyers, just like Broncos and Wranglers. The majority are daily driving and never go off road, perfect for EV. But if Scout is targeting the off roader, outdoor market, the EREV makes perfect sense!

Great response and welcome to the community!

 

[maynard]

I truly believe the erev is going to be the downfall of Scout. Instead of creating a new capable and practical rugged off road EV that has very few competitors, they are planning on marketing what amounts to a hybrid suv. Which has a huge market across all automakers. The ONLY reason people have expressed interest in the erev is due to range anxiety. All scout has to do is design their ev with over 400 miles of range. Also, the erev takes all of the point of an ev off the table. You reintroduce a gasoline engine, with all of the maintenance and problems. And exhaust. Scout will not survive a hybrid battle against everyone pushing hybrids.

Welcome to the community - search around the forum and I think you'll see some good arguments for both sides of the table...

 

[THil08]

Negative thoughts and people that come into this community don't last long. Good luck and Welcome

 

[cyure]

Welcome both of you! There’s a lot of opinions on this forum but the nice thing is generally as a group we are respectful, even when we disagree.

The last number I heard for EREV reservations was somewhere in the 85% range. At this point it’s happening. However, the nice thing is with the way they setup the line they can make either one so if at some point the pendulum swings towards BEV they can make those easily with no downtime.

A couple great follows on here are @Jamie@ScoutMotors and @CP1@scoutmotors. They keeps us updated around here from the manufacturer side.

Welcome again!

 

[J Alynn]

Welcome and always appreciate others opinions even if many of us have our own strong thoughts. With the way the government t is all in on oil and against electric it was a losing battle. Perhaps things will change back and the EV pendulum will swing back. The great thing is the factory is set up to manage either with very little delay so having the option raises capital and sales much faster which in turn allows SM to focus on a 3 row as well as hopefully a smaller Bronco sized open top and maybe an all EV modern take on the IH metro as an urban/flex small van that can also serve as urban delivery vehicle.

 

[Scoutsie]

I truly believe the erev is going to be the downfall of Scout. Instead of creating a new capable and practical rugged off road EV that has very few competitors, they are planning on marketing what amounts to a hybrid suv. Which has a huge market across all automakers. The ONLY reason people have expressed interest in the erev is due to range anxiety. All scout has to do is design their ev with over 400 miles of range. Also, the erev takes all of the point of an ev off the table. You reintroduce a gasoline engine, with all of the maintenance and problems. And exhaust. Scout will not survive a hybrid battle against everyone pushing hybrids.

I disagree. EREV is ideal for people that want to journey off road and camp, for example. You can have the benefits of an EV powertrain but with the convenience of carrying some Jerry cans off grid. It’s not just range, it’s being off grid for a week with a supplemental power source, you aren’t going to find a L2 charger in the woods!

I see two main types of buyers, just like Broncos and Wranglers. The majority are daily driving and never go off road, perfect for EV. But if Scout is targeting the off roader, outdoor market, the EREV makes perfect sense!

I imagine that if we had been alive to see the Lincoln-Douglas debates, they would have been a lot like this. Happy Fourth of July!

 

[THil08]

I imagine that if we had been alive to see the Lincoln-Douglas debates, they would have been a lot like this. Happy Fourth of July!

Some haven't seen this in the Archives yet, but supposedly this is the actual Gettysburg address. Theres only one it the world.
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Two score and six years ago our forebears brought forth on this continent a new machine, conceived in adventure and dedicated to the proposition that all explorers are created equal.


Now we are engaged in a great rebirth, testing whether that legend—or any legend so conceived and so dedicated—can long endure. We are met on a great proving ground of that revival. We have come to dedicate a portion of this moment as a launching place for the International Scout, that the bold spirit which once roamed these lands might live again. It is altogether fitting and proper that we should do this.


But, in a larger sense, we cannot dedicate—we cannot consecrate—we cannot hallow—this new beginning. The engineers and dreamers, living and gone, who built the original Scout, have consecrated it far above our poor power to add or detract. The world may little note, nor long remember, what we say here, but it can never forget what they did here. It is for us the living, rather, to be dedicated here to the unfinished work which they who designed and drove those first Scouts have thus far so nobly advanced.


It is rather for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us—that from these honored roots we take increased devotion to that cause for which they gave their full measure of ingenuity—that we here highly resolve that those early Scouts shall not have been built in vain—that this marque, under open skies, shall have a new birth of freedom—and that the International Scout, of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the roads.


The spirit of the Scout returns—rugged, electric, and ready for whatever lies ahead. Let us carry it forward with hope and excitement for the journeys yet to come.

 

[Mousehunter]

The EREV is a hedge bet. Current battery tech gives people range anxiety. In 2 years, hard to say where solid state battery tech will be - people may want to wait for Scout to offer it rather than get the EREV, and once Scout does offer solid state, it is likely to seriously hurt EREV demand.

So the real question is timing. How long will the window of EREV demand stay open. While it is open, they may get great sales, get brand recognition - it may be exactly what they need. If the window closes too soon, it is lost R&D.