One feature that made you pull the the trigger on a reservation….

[chucchinchilla]

I own a Wrangler and I had been very lucky with her, and I love my Wrangler and I would not buy any Stellantis products.

Wrangler is the only Stellantis product I'd consider if the situation was right and it was a second vehicle but even then I have to add an * to that statement and say not the 4xe because of the number of problems people have been having with that power train. Sigh.

 

[strider]

My daughter is 12 and really wants a Wrangler when she turns 16 (my wife had a YJ as her first vehicle). I'm hoping the Recon (or an actual BEV Wrangler) is a thing by the time she turns 16. I had a 2000 TJ and absolutely loved it. Only thing I had to do other than routine maintenance was a clutch (I towed with it a fair amount so definitely earned that one). But I keep hearing horror stories about Stellantis......

 

[cyure]

My daughter is 12 and really wants a Wrangler when she turns 16 (my wife had a YJ as her first vehicle). I'm hoping the Recon (or an actual BEV Wrangler) is a thing by the time she turns 16. I had a 2000 TJ and absolutely loved it. Only thing I had to do other than routine maintenance was a clutch (I towed with it a fair amount so definitely earned that one). But I keep hearing horror stories about Stellantis......

I have a 2013 with 111,000 miles on it and have had a few issues but I keep hearing about all kinds of issues with the new ones. I wouldn’t buy a new one.

 

[J Alynn]

My daughter is 12 and really wants a Wrangler when she turns 16 (my wife had a YJ as her first vehicle). I'm hoping the Recon (or an actual BEV Wrangler) is a thing by the time she turns 16. I had a 2000 TJ and absolutely loved it. Only thing I had to do other than routine maintenance was a clutch (I towed with it a fair amount so definitely earned that one). But I keep hearing horror stories about Stellantis......

I’ll never buy anything from Stellantis. You’d be better getting a Bronco and I sold ours after only 1-1/2 years due to issues so that should tell you how I feel about Stellantis

 

[cyure]

I’ll never buy anything from Stellantis. You’d be better getting a Bronco and I sold ours after only 1-1/2 years due to issues so that should tell you how I feel about Stellantis

I have been really lucky. Yea some issues but nothing like what I read online. The bronco was that’s bad? I guess good i didn’t buy one

 

[chucchinchilla]

Dunno if Reddit has some very clever cookies on my computer but in a crazy coincedence, after my previous posts about unreliable Jeeps and particularly Jeep EVs, this showed up as a suggested post.

https://www.reddit.com/r/JeepWagoneerS/comments/1nsq2as/is_this_normal

 

[Artoo]

Dunno if Reddit has some very clever cookies on my computer but in a crazy coincedence, after my previous posts about unreliable Jeeps and particularly Jeep EVs, this showed up as a suggested post.

https://www.reddit.com/r/JeepWagoneerS/comments/1nsq2as/is_this_normal

“Dude, your Jeep is smokin’!”
“Thanks man, yeah it’s real nice.”
“Um, no, like…I think it’s on fire…?”

 

[Artoo]

To toss my own answer in here to the OP, the fact it’s electric. I love the Broncos, see them all the time and have been sorely tempted to get one as soon as I can afford the monthly payment. We just bought a Mach-E last Nov. and after getting spoiled with charging the car at home, never going to the gas station with it, and zippy and SUPER smooth acceleration, I don’t really want to go back to gas. I did run across the Jeep Recon but don’t really like the look, and seems like Ford has no plans to enzappify the Bronco, so here I am. The scout looks like it’ll be a great looking, and hopefully great performing, option.

 

[Mousehunter]

Short of a long story - it's specs hit what I want AND it does not look like an EV.

 

[6-ScoutFamily]

… it does not look like an EV.

Yes, this!

 

[J Alynn]

To toss my own answer in here to the OP, the fact it’s electric. I love the Broncos, see them all the time and have been sorely tempted to get one as soon as I can afford the monthly payment. We just bought a Mach-E last Nov. and after getting spoiled with charging the car at home, never going to the gas station with it, and zippy and SUPER smooth acceleration, I don’t really want to go back to gas. I did run across the Jeep Recon but don’t really like the look, and seems like Ford has no plans to enzappify the Bronco, so here I am. The scout looks like it’ll be a great looking, and hopefully great performing, option.

I think when you see in person you’ll be even more impressed. Wish our Bronco wouldn’t have been a dud. It was a ton of fun

 

[6-ScoutFamily]

“Dude, your Jeep is smokin’!”
“Thanks man, yeah it’s real nice.”
“Um, no, like…I think it’s on fire…?”

I love your avatar. It looks like it’s painted as one of the Aristocrat’s from the 800 series.

 

[KentSidel]

The power export function is why I reserved. I am building a house and rather than install a stationary genset beside the garage, I am opting for a whole house transfer switch. This will allow me to provide emergency power from either a portable gas genset or from the Scout.

 

[cyure]

The power export function is why I reserved. I am building a house and rather than install a stationary genset beside the garage, I am opting for a whole house transfer switch. This will allow me to provide emergency power from either a portable gas genset or from the Scout.

Welcome to the community!

 

[TelemarkingSailor]

If there is one thing that would absolutely change my commitment to Scout, it would be the company leadership making even the tiniest squeak about autonomous driving. There's a lot about autonomous vehicles that I understand to be beneficial, but that is a world that I want to leave to the next generation. Personally, I think it's a terrible idea and I wish we could redirect the money being spent to solve the problem of "driving" into public transportation that works just fine today.

I grill with charcoal; I ski using a niche, obscure technique; I use wind power to propel my boat; and my grass mower uses human-powered reel blades. The Scout _sings_ to me! The whole ethos of elevating the tactility and ruggedness also speak to a mindset that seeks to connect the driver to the vehicle in a precisely antithetical position to autonomous vehicles.

I used to hate taking cabs. I lived in DC and cabs used to run a zone system rather than a flagdrop-time-distance model. I'd rather walk or take public transportation. Now, I wish the cab industry would come back. I'd rather have full professional drivers who know their way around the city. I hate that the whole industry has been replaced by part-time hustlers who basically rent their autonomy to an app (not to mention that the prices for transport for-hire have gone way up).

Yes, this is kind of a rant. I'm just kind of wondering if I've found a community of kindred souls?

 

[SpaceEVDriver]

If there is one thing that would absolutely change my commitment to Scout, it would be the company leadership making even the tiniest squeak about autonomous driving. There's a lot about autonomous vehicles that I understand to be beneficial, but that is a world that I want to leave to the next generation. Personally, I think it's a terrible idea and I wish we could redirect the money being spent to solve the problem of "driving" into public transportation that works just fine today.

I grill with charcoal; I ski using a niche, obscure technique; I use wind power to propel my boat; and my grass mower uses human-powered reel blades. The Scout _sings_ to me! The whole ethos of elevating the tactility and ruggedness also speak to a mindset that seeks to connect the driver to the vehicle in a precisely antithetical position to autonomous vehicles.

I used to hate taking cabs. I lived in DC and cabs used to run a zone system rather than a flagdrop-time-distance model. I'd rather walk or take public transportation. Now, I wish the cab industry would come back. I'd rather have full professional drivers who know their way around the city. I hate that the whole industry has been replaced by part-time hustlers who basically rent their autonomy to an app (not to mention that the prices for transport for-hire have gone way up).

Yes, this is kind of a rant. I'm just kind of wondering if I've found a community of kindred souls?

For me my anti-autonomous-driving stance is about two things.
First, I am a gearhead and love driving.

Second, the technology simply isn’t capable right now. I’m not willing to pay to be a test subject.

The technology required to drive within the lines is pretty well established—I had 6th-graders programming this into Lego robotics a dozen years ago. I trust Ford, Scout, VW, Mercedes, GM, etc., to do this programming. Heck, some of my students might even be on those teams.

But the technology required to recognize an unusual road hazard at 75 mph doesn’t exist. The hardware isn’t there. The software isn’t there.

 

[Mousehunter]

Tempting to post a wall of text. I am not ready for the car company to remove the steering wheel (Level 4?), but I am all in for driver assist features. I hope they don't try to force me to keep my hands at 10 and 2 though. If the road is straight, I really prefer being able to keep one hand at 4. I want adaptive cruise control, lane centering, and would not mind automatic lane changes on divided highways (I have caught myself driving far below the speed limit due to adaptive cruise control and slow trucks). I rarely speed, so would not even mind the car reading the speed limit signs (if it can do it far enough away so it does not need to apply the brakes to pull it off).

That said, I agree, the technology to prevent a suicidal deer from charging into the side of my vehicle does not exist yet (have about 5k of damage I need to get repaired from that happening a few months ago - a deer slammed into my door when I was doing under 10mph - it would have missed me if I had not already braked for 2 other deer before it).

 

[djb112349]

Bench seat. Old school but loaded.

 

[dreamweaver]

The power export function is why I reserved. I am building a house and rather than install a stationary genset beside the garage, I am opting for a whole house transfer switch. This will allow me to provide emergency power from either a portable gas genset or from the Scout.

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[oldgeeksguide]

Tempting to post a wall of text. I am not ready for the car company to remove the steering wheel (Level 4?), but I am all in for driver assist features. I hope they don't try to force me to keep my hands at 10 and 2 though. If the road is straight, I really prefer being able to keep one hand at 4. I want adaptive cruise control, lane centering, and would not mind automatic lane changes on divided highways (I have caught myself driving far below the speed limit due to adaptive cruise control and slow trucks). I rarely speed, so would not even mind the car reading the speed limit signs (if it can do it far enough away so it does not need to apply the brakes to pull it off).

That said, I agree, the technology to prevent a suicidal deer from charging into the side of my vehicle does not exist yet (have about 5k of damage I need to get repaired from that happening a few months ago - a deer slammed into my door when I was doing under 10mph - it would have missed me if I had not already braked for 2 other deer before it).

Removing steering wheel would require level 5, or very limited use cases, and no one really has software tech for that yet. There was a lot of optimism about the progress of automation tech 10 years ago, but I don’t think folks realized that the last 10% capabilities would take 100x the effort or more. At one point I was hopeful that the tech might be workable before my kids had to take my drivers license away, but now I’m not so optimistic.

But, as you point out, there is lots of useful tech already to help avoid/prevent accident/injury and I’m happy to use that. I just don’t have much use for lane centering or steering if I still have to remain extremely diligent while sorta kinda driving. Better if I’m actually driving.