Is there anything SM could offer to get you to switch from EREV to BEV?

[Scout_Lookout]

My only complaint is range. I regularly drive 400 plus miles one way. and like to travel. I dropped my cyber truck order because they couldn't deliver on range. Been very Happy with my Y, and its been a fun ride, but when I need to travel I either have to stop 4 times or take an ICE vehicle.

I have a standard range R1T that I added bigger tires to and cut my range down to 215 miles or so and I'd still rather stop as many times as necessary than take an ICE vehicle. Maybe its age, but I thoroughly enjoy road tripping an EV and getting out, walking around and just taking it a slower pace. IMO it makes the overall experience that much better by making it less stressful, and less trying to beat the guy in the other lane or see who can get out of Buccee's faster and back on the highway. IYKYK

 

[cyure]

My only complaint is range. I regularly drive 400 plus miles one way. and like to travel. I dropped my cyber truck order because they couldn't deliver on range. Been very Happy with my Y, and its been a fun ride, but when I need to travel I either have to stop 4 times or take an ICE vehicle.

Welcome to the community, if I haven’t welcomed you already.

 

[R1TVT]

I have a standard range R1T

What is a standard range R1T? How big is your battery pack? I agree with the part about stretching the legs after 3 or 4 hours of driving for sure!

 

[Scout_Lookout]

What is a standard range R1T? How big is your battery pack? I agree with the part about stretching the legs after 3 or 4 hours of driving for sure!

Standard Range is basically the same thing but with a smaller battery pack, no subwoofer, and no tow hooks on the front. Everything else is pretty much the same.

Gen 2 Standard Battery (2025+ Models)
The Gen 2 Standard battery features completely updated cell chemistry and architecture to improve weight efficiency: [1]

• Usable Capacity: 92.5 kWh
• Total/Rated Capacity: 95.6 kWh
• Battery Chemistry: Lithium Iron Phosphate (LFP)
• Estimated Range: 258 miles (EPA estimate on standard 22" wheels)
• Charging Infrastructure: 237.0 Ah rated capacity, 4 modules, 252 total cells, and a minimum pack voltage of 315V.
• DC Fast Charging: Peak charging rate of up to 211 kW, enabling a 10% to 80% charge in roughly 29.5 minutes. [1, 2, 3, 4]

 

[BeerParty]

Sorry, I didn't read all 26 pages. About towing...how would you charge the ev tow vehicle? Most charging sites that I've seen (not looking at many because I drive an ICE 2023 Bronco) the vehicles are backed. So would you have to drop your load and then go to the charger? The only way I see myself going full EV is when the tech matches ICE for "refueling". 10 minutes and I'm fully refueled. Now to be honest when we travel, most fuel stops end up being 30 minutes...so I would go 30 minutes. Most of the time I read that the shorter charging times, get you to 80% and apparently that is good enough. Doesn't have the same ring as FULL. Looking forward to see these on the street instead of the what appears to be the same two divas with different paint jobs or wraps. I ended up waiting about three years for my Bronco but that's because I bought a 2020 Colorado ZR2 Bison diesel, COVID, etc.

Are you asking about the BEV or the EREV? The answer is different based on which you pick.

In the BEV, you would either have to find a pull through charger (rare, but getting more popular as the networks are built out) or you would have to drop the trailer so you can back into the charging space. One of the asks early on was that the charge port be moved to the front for this reason, but Scout indicated there were reasons to keep the charge port on the rear.

In the EREV, you would not charge while on the road. You would gas-and-go like any ICE vehicle. As long as you don't overload the trailer, the EREV should be able to pull a trailer and maintain the battery charge using the Harvester engine. There would likely be a "tow mode" setting in the EREVs configuration, so the computer would make sure the truck ran using the battery and engine together to maintain performance.

That gas-and-go is one of the main appeals of the EREV. When driving short distances around home, the EREV would act like a BEV. Charge it at home, drive it on pure battery, and get the benefit of cheap home electrical power (running a BEV with home charging costs about 20% of the equivalent in gasoline). When driving long distances you don't charge, you fill up with gasoline and the Harvester generates the electricity. So on long trips it acts like an ICE.

Regarding charging to 80% while on a road trip. That is advice for a BEV when on a road trip because of the charging rate drop above 80%. A DC fast charger will charge fastest below 80%, above that the charge rate slows down to avoid overheating the battery. So, from a time perspective it is usually faster to plan to charge to ~80% with more frequent charging stops.