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That’s kinda my point. If the tech were such that I felt comfortable napping while it drove, or letting it drive around and park itself or pick me up when I go on a long one way hike or bike ride, then it would be interesting. Even waymo, probably the most advanced, is limited to certain areas and requires some remote supervision, and still screws up in ways a human never would. The current state of “fsd” seems like the worst of both worlds, you aren’t driving but you have to stay constantly vigilant and alert.
Agreed.
 
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The US automobile industry falls further behind. :(

The October YTD global EV sales accounted for about 17% of all vehicle sales.
All vehicle (not just BEV) sales in the US accounted for 18% of global sales.

In other words, EVs are as big a world market as the entire US light vehicle market. And EV sales are growing by double-digit percentages. US sales are not. The fastest-growing manufacturer doesn’t sell vehicles in the US.

US Automotive Industry:
In the first half of 2025, the total worldwide sales of all light vehicles (ICE, BEV, and everything in between) by US manufacturers (Ford, GM, and Tesla—the rest combined account for negligible sales on the global scale) was less than one third (28%) of the global EV sales (~3.6 million compared with ~12.8 million).

The US automobile manufacturers’ boards should be cleaning house of their C-suites and finding people who understand the future of global markets. Of course, those C-suites are fighting against a rapidly fluctuating set of random policies that make it quite difficult to compete domestically or globally, but this isn’t something that was unforeseeable; it’s been building for at least decade as US manufacturers refused to take BEVs seriously.

 
The US automobile industry falls further behind. :(

The October YTD global EV sales accounted for about 17% of all vehicle sales.
All vehicle (not just BEV) sales in the US accounted for 18% of global sales.

In other words, EVs are as big a world market as the entire US light vehicle market. And EV sales are growing by double-digit percentages. US sales are not. The fastest-growing manufacturer doesn’t sell vehicles in the US.

US Automotive Industry:
In the first half of 2025, the total worldwide sales of all light vehicles (ICE, BEV, and everything in between) by US manufacturers (Ford, GM, and Tesla—the rest combined account for negligible sales on the global scale) was less than one third (28%) of the global EV sales (~3.6 million compared with ~12.8 million).

The US automobile manufacturers’ boards should be cleaning house of their C-suites and finding people who understand the future of global markets. Of course, those C-suites are fighting against a rapidly fluctuating set of random policies that make it quite difficult to compete domestically or globally, but this isn’t something that was unforeseeable; it’s been building for at least decade as US manufacturers refused to take BEVs seriously.

US stall is fine, It's happening in China as well. From my sources I have been told it's because people are getting ready for EREVs. And they would rather keep their older EVs until EREVs are readily available.


Also side note, Rivian not adding Car Play is wild. They seem to continue to avoid it. So they just keep adding more stuff into their OS. Which is fine, but wouldn't it be easier to just add Car Play and AA?
 
The US automobile industry falls further behind. :(

The October YTD global EV sales accounted for about 17% of all vehicle sales.
All vehicle (not just BEV) sales in the US accounted for 18% of global sales.

In other words, EVs are as big a world market as the entire US light vehicle market. And EV sales are growing by double-digit percentages. US sales are not. The fastest-growing manufacturer doesn’t sell vehicles in the US.

US Automotive Industry:
In the first half of 2025, the total worldwide sales of all light vehicles (ICE, BEV, and everything in between) by US manufacturers (Ford, GM, and Tesla—the rest combined account for negligible sales on the global scale) was less than one third (28%) of the global EV sales (~3.6 million compared with ~12.8 million).

The US automobile manufacturers’ boards should be cleaning house of their C-suites and finding people who understand the future of global markets. Of course, those C-suites are fighting against a rapidly fluctuating set of random policies that make it quite difficult to compete domestically or globally, but this isn’t something that was unforeseeable; it’s been building for at least decade as US manufacturers refused to take BEVs seriously.

Such a sad state of affairs.
 

EU abandons plans for 2035 combustion engine ban, senior lawmaker says​

Plans to impose an effective ban on selling new cars with combustion engines in the European Union in 2035 have been abandoned, a senior EU lawmaker told Germany’s Bild newspaper.

Instead, there will be more flexible rules to achieve a reduction in CO2 emissions from cars, Manfred Weber, president of the EPP, the largest party in the European Parliament, told Bild.


“For new registrations from 2035 onwards, a 90 percent reduction in CO2 emissions will now be mandatory for car manufacturers’ fleet targets, instead of 100 percent,” Weber told the paper.

“There will also be no 100 percent target from 2040 onwards. This means that the technology ban on combustion engines is off the table,” he said. “All engines currently manufactured in Germany can therefore continue to be produced and sold.”


Weber said this sent an important signal “to the entire automotive industry and secures tens of thousands of industrial jobs,” reflecting concerns over the future of one of Europe’s most important industries.

The agreement would allow combustion-engine cars with a plug-in hybrid drivetrain and extended-range EVs, which use a combustion engine as a generator, to be sold beyond 2035.

Weber’s comments, which still need to be confirmed by Brussels, mark a key victory for Germany, the bloc’s top economy, in its efforts to protect its most important industry, which has come under intense pressure due to growing competition and trade barriers.


The European Commission is expected to officially present its plans on Dec. 16 as part of a package to help the industry in the face of rising Chinese competition, weak EV sales and high costs.

The proposal will then have to be approved by individual governments and the European Parliament. Weber’s support for the new plan is important because the EPP is the largest political group in the Parliament.

In 2022, the commission announced that all new car and van engines would need to have zero CO2 emissions by 2035, effectively banning sales of gasoline and diesel models in favor of battery-electric vehicles.

Automakers and some EU governments, including Germany and Italy, have been lobbying for softer regulation. Volkswagen, Stellantis, Renault, Mercedes-Benz and BMW have all argued in favor of dropping the ban, instead letting customers decide what they want rather than having firm targets.


ICE extension to 2040 is another scenario​

Other media reports said the commission is considering a five-year delay to the zero-emission mandate until 2040 to allow sales of combustion engine cars with PHEV or EREV drivetrains.

The extension would be based on the condition that combustion engine cars will run on advanced biofuels and so-called e-fuels — made using captured CO2 and renewable electricity, Bloomberg reported, citing people familiar with the matter.

Such a design would enable the EU to still aim for having zero-emission new passenger cars by 2035, depending on the parameters of the proposal.

While e-fuels can, in theory, be climate neutral, they are expensive, and the technology is at an early stage. The emissions benefit of biofuels is hotly debated. One reason for this is the strain they can put on land otherwise used for food production.

PHEV emissions under scrutiny​

The commission’s package is also expected to defer plans to tighten the way PHEV emissions are calculated, a metric known as the utility factor.

The commission had considered moving toward a system that measures real-world emissions based on on-board monitoring instead of the current metric, which uses lab assumptions that significantly understate actual emissions, critics say.
 
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I am a full supporter of BEVs. But, I felt that the timelines, bans, transitions were all too much too fast. People do not like those sentiments in general. There are many use cases for BEVs and many that will apply for ICE for many years to come. In my own humble opinion EREVs will speed up the transition to BEVs for many that may have otherwise shunned fully electric vehicles. I do think that people will find all the benefits of BEV with the mental safety net of the ICE generator. Then, those folks will realize how infrequently they use the ICE, or wish they just had longer EV range, or do not want to service and maintain the ICE. By that time, there will be more and more infrastructure built out to support BEVs. This is a natural progression based on consumer demand and sentiment instead of regulation.
 
I am a full supporter of BEVs. But, I felt that the timelines, bans, transitions were all too much too fast. People do not like those sentiments in general. There are many use cases for BEVs and many that will apply for ICE for many years to come. In my own humble opinion EREVs will speed up the transition to BEVs for many that may have otherwise shunned fully electric vehicles. I do think that people will find all the benefits of BEV with the mental safety net of the ICE generator. Then, those folks will realize how infrequently they use the ICE, or wish they just had longer EV range, or do not want to service and maintain the ICE. By that time, there will be more and more infrastructure built out to support BEVs. This is a natural progression based on consumer demand and sentiment instead of regulation.
Perfectly Said!

Can I get an AMEN!!!
 
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