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Exactly.

In 2000, the average age of cars and light trucks was 8 years. That average age has grown by 50% to about 12 years for both and by 75% to 14 years for cars alone. And yes, cars are more reliable now than they’ve ever been in the past, but they're also significantly more expensive relative to wages now than they ever were before. In relative-to-wages terms, their cost is creeping up to the cost of a house compared with the 1980s and earlier.
My first house was $132,000 in 1991. That’s the cost of a loaded R1S. Thats just nuts to me.
 
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The US is falling further behind.
Nine!!!!!

It turns out Lucid disputes this number.

 
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The US is falling further behind.
Lucid failing isn't enough to tip the scale of the US overall, more like it wiggles the needle a little bit then the needle settles back to where it was before.

Quick Lucid story, I remember meeting a Lucid VP at a dinner party a couple years ago around the time they were doing layoffs. Great guy, cool background at other auto manufacturers, but his response to the [then] recent layoffs was a bit surprising. Instead of saying the health of the company isn't a problem because they're taking ABC actions to fix the business or they're launching XYZ products which will boost sales, he said none of this was a problem because they had Saudi money and they'll get bailed out no problem. That sense of entitlement bothered me and while he was ultimately right, the Saudi's did inject another $1.5B into the business, when happens when daddy doesn't want to open his wallet anymore?
 
Lucid failing isn't enough to tip the scale of the US overall, more like it wiggles the needle a little bit then the needle settles back to where it was before.

Quick Lucid story, I remember meeting a Lucid VP at a dinner party a couple years ago around the time they were doing layoffs. Great guy, cool background at other auto manufacturers, but his response to the [then] recent layoffs was a bit surprising. Instead of saying the health of the company isn't a problem because they're taking ABC actions to fix the business or they're launching XYZ products which will boost sales, he said none of this was a problem because they had Saudi money and they'll get bailed out no problem. That sense of entitlement bothered me and while he was ultimately right, the Saudi's did inject another $1.5B into the business, when happens when daddy doesn't want to open his wallet anymore?
It’s not just Lucid. It’s all of the North America market.

The rest of the world’s EV market grew substantially in 2024 and the first half of 2025. The US market is close to stalling.

 
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This is something that’s difficult to convey to most people.

I do a 1200 mile road trip at least once a month. The distance between one set of reliable fast chargers on this trip is about 230 miles. At freeway speeds, I can make that drive, but I sometimes get worried, especially if the high head winds rise up. I can also find other chargers, depending on the day, time, etc.

And sometimes when I’m gone my partner does a 300 mile round trip work trip with a 5000 ft elevation gain at the end of the trip. The charger situation at her office is unreliable. There are DCFCs around and on the way home, so it’s not critical.

We also have a lot of charging desert around us. North is pretty bad. South is fine. West is okay. East is okay. Northeast is the worst. There are some long, long stretches that worry even people with gas vehicles.

Do we need 300+ miles range? I wouldn’t say we need it. But we’ve found it makes our road trips nearly identical to our previous 25 years of road tripping, so it’s a good fit for us.
 
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