Entry level Scout

[Nmagnatta]

Is there any chance we can see what a true entry level Scout would look like. I love the prototype concept renders, but that is not going to be sub 60K.

 

[Chavannigans]

I imagine 33” or 34” tires, steel roof, standard height coilover spring suspension, and basic color and interior options for the base.

You’ll still get a rear locker, 4wd, and excellent ground clearance which are a very big deal for off-road capability that most base level trim Jeeps and 4Runners won’t stack up to. Not sure about the sway bar disconnect because some articles make it sound like that will be an additional option.

But you need to remember that they will be custom ordered so you aren’t going to be forced to add everything like the prototypes.

They may build some with certain features and packages like Rivian does that will have incentives after a few years.

Can’t say for sure though.

 

[J Alynn]

Is there any chance we can see what a true entry level Scout would look like. I love the prototype concept renders, but that is not going to be sub 60K.

I am assuming until they become profitable they will need to sell at a cost over $50K. Look at how long it took Rivian. Based on all the range anxiety and range requirements people on the forum throw around I’d love for people to spell out what they are willing to have from a minimalist point of to get the vehicle price down. For example-is 180 miles of range with no harvester acceptable? Is something the size of a Toyota RAV 4 good enough? Does it have to be off-road capable-4WD, heavy E axles, lockers, etc…?
What is everyone willing to give up to get a vehicle down to $39K. The average new vehicle price is like $48K so on the low end for an ICE you have to be thinking $25-28K. And when you look at what’s on the market that are all low power, FWD, road worthy at best crap boxes.
I’m not ranting as it may seem but I’ve been wondering this. May people want cheap and I FULLY agree. I seem to recall VW originally shooting for a 4 at the beginning of the Scouts pricing but that is long gone. So ultimately it’s a question of what are you willing to sacrifice. And is there a big enough field of buyers to support it. A LOT of items and features will need pulled out and at what point is it watered down to a point it doesn’t warrant the Scout name or it turns people away.
In my area 2018 used Jeep wranglers are going for $22-$28K so I just don’t know how it can happen but I’d love for someone to outline a process that can suggest a successful way

 

[N Wilson]

I am assuming until they become profitable they will need to sell at a cost over $50K. Look at how long it took Rivian. Based on all the range anxiety and range requirements people on the forum throw around I’d love for people to spell out what they are willing to have from a minimalist point of view t of view to get the vehicle price down. For example-is 180 miles of range with no harvester acceptable? Is something the size of a Toyota RAV 4 good enough? Does it have to be off-road capable-4WD, heavy E axles, lockers, etc…?
What is everyone willing to give up to get a vehicle down to $39K. The average new vehicle price is like $48K so on the low end for an ICE you have to be thinking $25-28K. And when you look at what’s on the market that are all low power, FWD, road worthy at best crap boxes.
I’m not ranting as it may seem but I’ve been wondering this. May people want cheap and I FULLY agree. I seem to recall VW originally shooting for a 4 at the bringing of the Scouts pricing but that is long gone. So ultimately it’s a question of what are you willing to sacrifice. And is there a big enough field of buyers to support it. A LOT of items and features will need pulled out and at what point is it watered down to a point it doesn’t warrant the Scout name or it turns people away.
In my area 2018 used Jeep wranglers are going for $22-$28K so I just don’t know how it can happen but I’d love for someone to outline a process that can suggest a successful way

This is actually a really good point because if you think about what the original IH Scouts were, they were not a luxury vehicle at all with tons of creature comforts. They were a basic, utilitarian work vehicle with crank windows and not much else. Sure, they were capable 4 wheel drive vehicles, but even that aspect I think we sometimes conflate in our minds and think of the ones people have modified over the years as what they were like out of the factory. They didn't have big lift kits, Dana 60s and 35" tires stock.

All this to say, the point about balancing expectations with price point is really well taken. If they want to offer a basic, no frills base model without all the creature comforts, or the huge tires and other serious off-road equipment but make it a stout 4wd workhorse, it would be very reminiscent of the originals and probably keep the price as low as possible in the current economic climate.

Then offer all the tech, comfort, and off-road upgrades as standalone options or packages so everyone can have their Scout the way they want it with whatever they're willing to pay for. I think this is already Scout's strategy in large part, and I think it's a great way to appeal to as many different people as possible .

 

[dreamweaver]

This is actually a really good point because if you think about what the original IH Scouts were, they were not a luxury vehicle at all with tons of creature comforts. They were a basic, utilitarian work vehicle with crank windows and not much else. Sure, they were capable 4 wheel drive vehicles, but even that aspect I think we sometimes conflate in our minds and think of the ones people have modified over the years as what they were like out of the factory. They didn't have big lift kits, Dana 60s and 35" tires stock.

All this to say, the point about balancing expectations with price point is really well taken. If they want to offer a basic, no frills base model without all the creature comforts, or the huge tires and other serious off-road equipment but make it a stout 4wd workhorse, it would be very reminiscent of the originals and probably keep the price as low as possible in the current economic climate.

Then offer all the tech, comfort, and off-road upgrades as standalone options or packages so everyone can have their Scout the way they want it with whatever they're willing to pay for. I think this is already Scout's strategy in large part, and I think it's a great way to appeal to as many different people as possible .

All we really know is what is stated at the bottom of the Scout Motors website. We just don't know what an "Entry Model" is.

• Traveler: $50,000 with incentives
• Terra: $51,500 with incentives
• Pricing is for U.S. market only. Entry model price reflects targeted starting price with incentives. Available incentives at the time of sale may vary based on current federal, state, and local offerings and are subject to change without notice; this may impact the final purchase price. Retail price reflects lowest starting Manufacturer Suggested Retail Price (MSRP). Price does not include any federal, state and/or local tax subsidies or incentives that may be available. All prices are subject to change and excludes taxes, title, license and other fees, as well as certain premium features and add-ons.