Bi-directional Charging / Home Power Backup

[drhoden]

One of the biggest things I'm looking at in the total utility delivered from an EV Pickup is its ability to compliment my whole-home security plan; power being the most important.

I really hope this truck has 2 things:

1. Auto Bi-Directional kick-in (with safety checks).
2. On-board generator, either for range extending or destination self-recharging.

I would love to see this vehicle as my own portable powerhouse, and oh yeah, it also seats 6 ( I definitely want seating for 6).

 

[Latrant]

Yes. I have my this with the Lightning 9.6kw and 133kw or whatever it is ready to go for emergencies.

I wish Scout would partner with a third party like Anker Solix and the E10 system that just came out. After all, if you have to drive your Scout from home and still need backup power, you need some additional batteries or generator with inverter and connection to your home if the Scout isn't there. I've reserved a Traveler with Harvester (which you can force to stay off in the UX as Dre demonstrated ) but I know I'll need another separate system even if my Scout does V2H. We can't stay home the whole time and will have to disconnect to drive the Scout away. So it can't be the sole system I rely on during a power outage. I wish it would easily intetrate with the system, though.

 

[mastertroll]

I wish Scout would partner with a third party like Anker Solix and the E10 system that just came out. After all, if you have to drive your Scout from home and still need backup power, you need some additional batteries or generator with inverter and connection to your home if the Scout isn't there. I've reserved a Traveler with Harvester (which you can force to stay off in the UX as Dre demonstrated ) but I know I'll need another separate system even if my Scout does V2H. We can't stay home the whole time and will have to disconnect to drive the Scout away. So it can't be the sole system I rely on during a power outage. I wish it would easily intetrate with the system, though.

This is one thing I can say Ford did right.

 

[BeerParty]

I wish Scout would partner with a third party like Anker Solix and the E10 system that just came out. After all, if you have to drive your Scout from home and still need backup power, you need some additional batteries or generator with inverter and connection to your home if the Scout isn't there. I've reserved a Traveler with Harvester (which you can force to stay off in the UX as Dre demonstrated ) but I know I'll need another separate system even if my Scout does V2H. We can't stay home the whole time and will have to disconnect to drive the Scout away. So it can't be the sole system I rely on during a power outage. I wish it would easily intetrate with the system, though.

Why would they need to partner with anyone? From my point of view, if you have a V2L connection (which Scout has already said they will have) you can use it with any power station on the market - no integration necessary.

 

[Latrant]

Why would they need to partner with anyone? From my point of view, if you have a V2L connection (which Scout has already said they will have) you can use it with any power station on the market - no integration necessary.

My understanding is V2L is different ( do that now for grins with my Ioniq 5 by plugging something into the back bench seat 110 plug) but if you want automatic integration V2H (Vehicle to Home) its a different story. Ford and GM have entire systems to interface with your electrical panel with a transfer switch and to isolate the grid. Much more to consider.

 

[Logan]

V2H is different than V2L.

V2L is literally just the ability to plug anything into the EV, and power it. Most of the time this is achieved either through power outlets in the vehicle, or with an adapter/dongle that plugs into the charging port.

V2H is generally meant to imply the functionality of an automatic transfer switch, an EVSE (L2 charger), combined with your EV and its battery. Usually meant to imply that you plug your EV in to charge, and if the grid fails, it automagically fails over from charging your vehicle from the grid, to DRAWING from your vehicle, to power your house.

V2G is similar to V2H, but can export power from your vehicle/house to the Grid ( and not just when the grid is down during an outage). The idea here is that EV's and their collectively huge battery capacity could be used as a virtual power station to help bolster the grid during times of high load (including outages, but not limited to it). This is a thing that you have to opt into, and you get paid for all the power drawn from the battery when it is required.

V2H and V2G need different EVSE's/electrical connections. And they can cost thousands of dollars to install. I want to say the ford one was something like $4-8k, but I'm not sure on the numbers.

The quick/easy way to power a house during an outage is to use a V2L port/adapter, and export power from the EV, and have it go back into the house via a manual transfer switch, and a generator cable.

A manual transfer switch may cost a few hundred dollars to install, but is a relatively simple. They are also somewhat common in areas where power outages are common (my whole neighborhood was built with them).