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I just saw the following regarding the 0-60 acceleration:
Scout Motors projects that the fully-electric versions of the Traveler™ SUV and Terra™ truck will accelerate from 0-60 mph as quickly as 3.5 seconds.
Scout® vehicles equipped with the Harvester™ range extender are anticipated to accelerate from 0-60 mph as quickly as 4.5 seconds.


I did ask chat why the difference and the Harvester is coming with a smaller battery. This wasn't conveyed when I put my reservation down for the Harvester version and I must be honest that I'm very disappointed in the reduced performance. It would be nice to have the option for the performance along with the range extender.
To answer the OP's question, the difference is due to the smaller battery in the Harvester. Why is this so? Li-ion batteries (all batteries actually) have a maximum safe discharge rate. This means that the total amperage available is a function of the battery chemistry and the number of cells (and to a lesser amount, how they are connected, serial vs parallel). So assuming 2 battery packs with the same chemistry and pack voltage, the larger pack will be able to provide more amperage at the same time(cell-level) discharge rate.

It's good that Scout is being upfront about the difference. Tesla got into hot water (and actually lost a lawsuit) where they advertised the combined horsepower of the motors but due to the pack size and chemistry, it could never supply enough power to hit those numbers.

As Thomas Sowell said, "There are no solutions, only trade offs." Bottom line is that the only way to increase performance is to increase pack size (until the pack can supply the maximum power that the motors can use, at which point the motors become the limiting factor). I am sure that Scout is carefully considering the balance between weight and performance on both BEV and EREV models. We should have all of the information necessary to make a decision prior to creating an actual order and committing to purchase.
 
As an owner of a truck that does 0-60 in 3 seconds, I will say its awesome (at first)... Then you realize you are just burning rubber and electrons at a faster rate launching, wake up and realize you are also in a big heavy truck, and you start to chill outtttttttt.

I do love having the instant torque & power for passing or when needed pulling out, but certainly wouldn't care if I lost a second or two from 0-60. Its a truck afterall.
 
I have see to be the other guy and now I’m your husband in that scenario. Traffic lights are the great equalizer
Funny story about another benefit of EVs.

A few years back I was in my Tesla Roadster, heading home at around 11:00pm after visiting a friend. Roads were pretty much empty. I was sitting at a stoplight and a guy in a Tesla Model S rolls up next to me. Despite both being middle-aged men, we looked at each other and nodded. Light turns green and we both floor it up to ~45mph until the next red light. Did I mention we were right outside of a hospital? No one even noticed. We proceeded to do this at the next 3 lights. It was hilarious. If we had done that in Ferraris, Corvettes, or any high performance (ie loud) ICE, there would have been cops coming out of the woodwork.

If anyone wants to visit NE Oklahoma, you're welcome to drive my Model X Plaid. 1,000 horsepower does warp space and time.
 
I just saw the following regarding the 0-60 acceleration:
Scout Motors projects that the fully-electric versions of the Traveler™ SUV and Terra™ truck will accelerate from 0-60 mph as quickly as 3.5 seconds.
Scout® vehicles equipped with the Harvester™ range extender are anticipated to accelerate from 0-60 mph as quickly as 4.5 seconds.


I did ask chat why the difference and the Harvester is coming with a smaller battery. This wasn't conveyed when I put my reservation down for the Harvester version and I must be honest that I'm very disappointed in the reduced performance. It would be nice to have the option for the performance along with the range extender.
Good morning. I have a question. (I ask lots of questions around here). Have you ever driven a 3.5 sec car and a 4.5 sec car?

I would ask the same question. Have you ever driven a 4.5 second car? More importantly, have you ever driven a 4.5 second SUV or truck the size of a Scout? I have been driving a Hyundai Ioniq 5 for over a year. The HI5 (2024 AWD) has a claimed 0-60 time of 4.5 seconds, I assure you it does not lack for acceleration.
 
I would ask the same question. Have you ever driven a 4.5 second car? More importantly, have you ever driven a 4.5 second SUV or truck the size of a Scout? I have been driving a Hyundai Ioniq 5 for over a year. The HI5 (2024 AWD) has a claimed 0-60 time of 4.5 seconds, I assure you it does not lack for acceleration.
I wasn’t sure if this was directed at me or the OP. If me, yes I have. Our Supra is a 3.7 second car. I can’t imagine that time in a vehicle as big as the Scout.

Don’t get me wrong, it’s hella fun to punch it, but it’s not like I’m flooring it on my way to Meijer. Ha!
 
I think for me, the acceleration in a truck is not really a factor (at least when it's already under 5 or 6 seconds anyways). I've had a Chevy Camaro SS, TVR Cerbera, Audi RS5, VW Golf R, and they were all really fun and fast but also built as cars that are supposed to be sporty and quick. For my Scout will I floor it a couple of times when I get it, of course, but if for whatever reason it could only do a 6 second 0-60 mph I would not be disappointed since I'm more looking forward to the truck aspect of it rather than treating it like a sports car.
 
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We have the Supra and it’s a 3.7 second car. Unless you are on a track you aren’t going balls out driving to Sam’s club. It’s fun and I love having it and yes people want to race you but it if was 4.5 second it would be just as fun.

One day my husband had a corvette flooring it at every stoplight on his way to work and he just went normal speed and would end up at the red light next to the guy every time. He said it got pretty funny after it happened the 3rd or 4th time.
I think this is why I enjoy my TRX. It’s my daily driver, but it’s also the long road trip vehicle, it tows our pontoon boat, I take it hunting, and it’s extremely safe on bad roads. I think the Scout has a chance to be a lot of these things for folks. Spirited drives, off road adventure, and if done correctly, safe on crappy roads. Throw in the Harvester package and in theory, long road trips with no range anxiety, and potentially a good tow vehicle. I like the potential that Scout has.
 
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I think for me, the acceleration in a truck is not really a factor (at least when it's already under 5 or 6 seconds anyways). I've had a Chevy Camaro SS, TVR Cerbera, Audi RS5, VW Golf R, and they were all really fun and fast but also built as cars that are supposed to be sporty and quick. For my Scout will I floor it a couple of times when I get it, of course, but if for whatever reason it could only do a 6 second 0-60 mph I would not be disappointed since I'm more looking forward to the truck aspect of it rather than treating it like a sports car.
Exactly. And being local-222 is known in PA as the Pennsylvania autobahn there is still only so much distance to horse around. When I had the TLX type S I had two tuner kids in an older tuned civic just pressing me to go. I finally lit it up and was weaving cars and finally thought-why the hell am I doing this. And to make it worse the 2 knuckle heads (who were never gonna catch me) were weaving the two lanes as well. Was lucky none of us killed anyone. Having had it over 125 for 5 minutes once in SC I can’t ever imagine running an SUV or truck like that. Just waiting to end up in the obituaries. It actually scares me a me to think how many families will buy these and at some point let their young driver take it out. It’s one thing to race the cars you had as they are tuned for that and there is a little wiggle room for stupid decisions but in a 3-4 ton SUV?
 
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Exactly. And being local-222 is known in PA as the Pennsylvania autobahn there is still only so much distance to horse around. When I had the TLX type S I had two tuner kids in an older tuned civic just pressing me to go. I finally lit it up and was weaving cars and finally thought-why the hell am I doing this. And to make it worse the 2 knuckle heads (who were never gonna catch me) were weaving the two lanes as well. Was lucky none of us killed anyone. Having had it over 125 for 5 minutes once in SC I can’t ever imagine running an SUV or truck like that. Just waiting to end up in the obituaries. It actually scares me a me to think how many families will buy these and at some point let their young driver take it out. It’s one thing to race the cars you had as they are tuned for that and there is a little wiggle room for stupid decisions but in a 3-4 ton SUV?
That’s why they need parental controls like you have on a phone. Limit the speed, limit the use of phone to only when the vehicle is standing still, etc. it’s too easy in these cars to look down and go uh oh I’m doing 100 and I didn’t even know it. They are so smooth.

If I was doing 100 in my Jeep you would know it, believe me. Heck the speedometer stops at 100. Ha!
 
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man all this talk about 0-60 I would be more concerned about 60-0,but thats me:):):)
A 2021 article in Car and Driver listed a pile of “the shortest-stopping cars we’ve ever tested.”
They were in the range of 127-136 feet for 0-70.

The Lightning—which is likely the best model for the Terra at this time—has a 70-0 mph stopping distance of 168 feet. Its 60-0 stopping distance is 116 feet. Its 0-60 distance is 172 feet, assuming 3.9 seconds claimed on various sites as its 0-60 time.

Typical human reaction time while driving, transitioning to braking is about 1.5 seconds. At 60 mph, the vehicle would travel 132 feet.

Accelerating from 0-60 at a stop, reacting to the need to stop, and stopping takes 172 feet + 132 feet + 116 feet = 420 feet.

A typical small city block is about 350 feet long. This is stop sign to stop sign or street to street, not traffic light to traffic light. But even if starting at a traffic light on a main street, a driver would not be able to safely react to a vehicle pulling onto that main street from a side street.

It’s stupid and irresponsible to be drag racing in a city.
 
A 2021 article in Car and Driver listed a pile of “the shortest-stopping cars we’ve ever tested.”
They were in the range of 127-136 feet for 0-70.

The Lightning—which is likely the best model for the Terra at this time—has a 70-0 mph stopping distance of 168 feet. Its 60-0 stopping distance is 116 feet. Its 0-60 distance is 172 feet, assuming 3.9 seconds claimed on various sites as its 0-60 time.

Typical human reaction time while driving, transitioning to braking is about 1.5 seconds. At 60 mph, the vehicle would travel 132 feet.

Accelerating from 0-60 at a stop, reacting to the need to stop, and stopping takes 172 feet + 132 feet + 116 feet = 420 feet.

A typical small city block is about 350 feet long. This is stop sign to stop sign or street to street, not traffic light to traffic light. But even if starting at a traffic light on a main street, a driver would not be able to safely react to a vehicle pulling onto that main street from a side street.

It’s stupid and irresponsible to be drag racing in a city.
Way to make a mature and reasonable post and take the childish fun out of it! :ROFLMAO: