The Scout Times

[maynard]

The game is much more fun when you know the book you’ve armed yourself with. Especially if you know it better. My first job was an architecture firm and one of our construction managers (early 60’s) kept a set of 12 law books at his desk. He had post-its all through it and if you were a trade on site making threats you’d had best known more than him because he’d dress you down one side and back up the other. The man looked like Santa Claus but had teeth like a shark-I learned A LOT from him early in my career-and he made sure I learned it the right way

It’s great to learn that way…. I was lucky to come up under an experienced manager myself - tried to pass some of that on when I retired but the new kid was more interested in getting AI to do the work…
:-(

 

[Broverlander]

I LOVE loopholes!! I have fun with all the local inspection departments, and then going over their heads to get them overruled by the state's Department of Insurance that regulates our codes. 100% success rate over 25+ years!

I'd have made a great lawyer criminal if it weren't for these darn morals...

I take that jab at lawyers as a compliment.

 

[Broverlander]

Surely they can loophole this like Tesla does with the Showroom only locations. If you've never experienced one of these locations they're a lot of fun. The people can talk to you about the vehicles, show you the vehicles, you can even test drive vehicles, and then they can show you the website where YOU can go to and place an order for a car if you want one. They can't talk any numbers at all or do any of the website input for you, they cant even hold the tablet for you, but they can walk you through every step of the process to order/buy a car and as long as it's done solely by the customer they wont get in any trouble. One of Tesla's smoothest moves lol

I'm not quite sure whether that's a loophole Scout could follow. Tesla's problem is/was different than Scout's. Scout's problem isn't that they are selling direct to consumers in a particular state doesn't allow that type of sale. Scout's problem is that it's selling direct to consumers and there are allegations (untrue, of course) that by doing so, Scout is violating a state's franchise laws. In short, by selling DTC, Tesla was (allegedly) violating State Law A. Scout on the other hand, by selling DTC, is (allegedly, but not actually) violating State Law B. So while the loophole may have gotten Tesla around State Law A, and could ger Scout around State Law A if it has the same problem, I don't believe that same loophole will get Scout around State Law B. I'm not saying there isn't a loophole for State Law B, but it's much harder to imagine one than Tesla's. If you were to believe the dealers' associations' meritless (in my opinion) arguments, each state's franchise law is designed to stop exactly what Scout is trying to do.

 

[speedrye]

I'm not quite sure whether that's a loophole Scout could follow. Tesla's problem is/was different than Scout's. Scout's problem isn't that they are selling direct to consumers in a particular state doesn't allow that type of sale. Scout's problem is that it's selling direct to consumers and there are allegations (untrue, of course) that by doing so, Scout is violating a state's franchise laws. In short, by selling DTC, Tesla was (allegedly) violating State Law A. Scout on the other hand, by selling DTC, is (allegedly, but not actually) violating State Law B. So while the loophole may have gotten Tesla around State Law A, and could ger Scout around State Law A if it has the same problem, I don't believe that same loophole will get Scout around State Law B. I'm not saying there isn't a loophole for State Law B, but it's much harder to imagine one than Tesla's. If you were to believe the dealers' associations' meritless (in my opinion) arguments, each state's franchise law is designed to stop exactly what Scout is trying to do.

With each state being so radically different, I'd be curious how the legal teams are structured within Scout. State, regional or one central hub? Either way, I expect the vehicles to be available well before the legalities are worked out in many of the states.

 

[R1TVT]

Well - this is awesome going into the weekend.
Not sure you can beat this 800, and such a great backdrop around Chris L. and how it came to be too:

The Truck That Became a Scout: Chris Lindner’s 1966 Scout 800 – Scout Motors Stories

blog.scoutmotors.com

 

[Broverlander]

With each state being so radically different, I'd be curious how the legal teams are structured within Scout. State, regional or one central hub? Either way, I expect the vehicles to be available well before the legalities are worked out in many of the states.

They'll likely be structured like other corporations. They'll likely have in house counsel. Speaking from experience, they generally have to be a "jack of all trades, master of none." They help identify and strategize about legal issues. Sometimes, depending on the issue, they can help execute those plans. Most of the times though--especially when it comes to lawsuits or administrative hearings--the corporation farms those out to law firms licensed in that state who have experience with the type of matter. Then, in-house counsel will generally serve as a liaison between outside counsel and the corporation. They'll help outside counsel ensure they have all the informtaion they need to achieve the corporation's goal/need.

 

[cyure]

Well - this is awesome going into the weekend.
Not sure you can beat this 800, and such a great backdrop around Chris L. and how it came to be too:

The Truck That Became a Scout: Chris Lindner’s 1966 Scout 800 – Scout Motors Stories

blog.scoutmotors.com

Oh yay! Lovely story. And Chris AKA @Tuff66 I’m so glad I got to see your Scout at Nats last year in person and we had a chance to chat.

 

[J Alynn]

Well - this is awesome going into the weekend.
Not sure you can beat this 800, and such a great backdrop around Chris L. and how it came to be too:

The Truck That Became a Scout: Chris Lindner’s 1966 Scout 800 – Scout Motors Stories

blog.scoutmotors.com

Chris is a great guy. Have had the pleasure of meeting he and his wife at the reveal and getting to know them. He’s also a CAD huy so we are connected by architecture but his truck is FREAKIN amazing. Stared at it a lot at the reveal event. Made me quite jealous I don’t still own an OG Scout