Size comparison

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Not really directly related to size "comparison", but it would be nice to have the basic properties of the vehicle listed somewhere in the system. For example, a page in the infotainment could show the vehicle along with its dimensions and (curb) weight. It comes handy when looking for parking, being towed, etc.
To that, having a roof sensor for parking garage clearance bars would be great too
 
Not really directly related to size "comparison", but it would be nice to have the basic properties of the vehicle listed somewhere in the system. For example, a page in the infotainment could show the vehicle along with its dimensions and (curb) weight. It comes handy when looking for parking, being towed, etc.
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That is generally done with a forward looking camera so it has plenty of time to warn you. I think it is incorporated in what is know as 360 view.
I’ve never experienced for the top of the car. If someone knows of a model I’d be curious. I’m used to 360 but I’ve never had the warning sensor beep when going in a parking garage. Or I see a height bar at a drive-in, etc…
 
I’ve never experienced for the top of the car. If someone knows of a model I’d be curious. I’m used to 360 but I’ve never had the warning sensor beep when going in a parking garage. Or I see a height bar at a drive-in, etc…
As it turns out no manufactures do this. Many modern vehicles have parking assist systems with sensors, like ultrasonic or radar, to detect obstacles around the car, such as walls or other vehicles, especially during parallel parking. However, these are not designed to measure the height of a parking garage entrance. I wonder why?
 
As it turns out no manufactures do this. Many modern vehicles have parking assist systems with sensors, like ultrasonic or radar, to detect obstacles around the car, such as walls or other vehicles, especially during parallel parking. However, these are not designed to measure the height of a parking garage entrance. I wonder why?
Glad I wasn’t crazy. Makes you wonder if it struggles to detect but to add it would be very cool. If nothing else, maybe as part of the roof rack since that adds a good amount of height.
 
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Glad I wasn’t crazy. Makes you wonder if it struggles to detect but to add it would be very cool. If nothing else, maybe as part of the roof rack since that adds a good amount of height.
That would be a good place for it.
Back in the day my father in-law who, always loved his old Suburbans would take his dymo labeler and stick messages on the dash for when the kids came of age to drive, like remember it is an old car, Jiggle the key if it dose't turn over and remember this is 6' tall when you park. I guess we could do that. 😂 O'h yes I knew my wife before we could drive.
 
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May be a good excuse for a front mounted UHF antenna like the Aussies use. Just get one the same height as your roof and put a tennis ball on it 😂

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We got rid of our Tahoe many years ago, so I am not really used to driving one anymore-but have had an Unlimited Wrangler for years now. We discuss size comparisons a lot - but did a trip in an Expedition this weekend (which in my mind is Suburban sized). One thing I have not seen much talk about is interior width. Not a perfect comparison, but an indicator will be the width of the center console.
Jeep Wrangler Unlimited
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Ford Bronco.
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Tahoe
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Traveler
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Now these are not perfect comparisons - but they do illustrate one thing to me. The Jeep and Bronco design make a bench seat entirely impractical-there is no room for a person to sit in the area the center console occupies. The center console of the Tahoe and Traveler on the other hand are almost the same width - large enough for a bench seat to be practical. The Explorer I was in this weekend felt even wider than my F250 - but for comparison
F250
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Anyway, still thinking it will be closer to full sized SUV (abet only 2 rows of seating), than Wrangler/Bronco. The shoulders of those 2 make the interior feel significantly narrower.
 
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We got rid of our Tahoe many years ago, so I am not really used to driving one anymore-but have had an Unlimited Wrangler for years now. We discuss size comparisons a lot - but did a trip in an Expedition this weekend (which in my mind is Suburban sized). One thing I have not seen much talk about is interior width. Not a perfect comparison, but an indicator will be the width of the center console.
Jeep Wrangler Unlimited
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Ford Bronco.
pmlUcNiRSKwAc8tfWX9w_2023-Ford-Bronco-Interior.jpg


Tahoe
2025-chevrolet-tahoe-high-country-111-67080e21b4ff5.jpg
Traveler
scout-traveler-interior-sketch1-jpg.6311

Now these are not perfect comparisons - but they do illustrate one thing to me. The Jeep and Bronco design make a bench seat entirely impractical-there is no room for a person to sit in the area the center console occupies. The center console of the Tahoe and Traveler on the other hand are almost the same width - large enough for a bench seat to be practical. The Explorer I was in this weekend felt even wider than my F250 - but for comparison
F250
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Anyway, still thinking it will be closer to full sized SUV (abet only 2 rows of seating), than Wrangler/Bronco. The shoulders of those 2 make the interior feel significantly narrower.
Hello! Thanks for all the interior comparison pictures. I also have a Wrangler Unlimited. Mine is the MOAB edition.

Having seen them at Nationals they are definitely bigger inside than my Wrangler. My husband took tons of pictures and I posted them in a Nationals thread. I also took some measurements with my iPhone and posted those as well. The only interior measurement I got was the back of the Traveler.

 
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All the vehicles were at the house today, so got out a tape measure. Wrangler center console is about 7", Explorer and F250 are 12". Well my hips are a bit wider that that, but the difference will allow a bench seat to work (although the only real reason I want the bench is dog room not hip room - none of my dogs really fit in a captains chair well).

Now less technical - upholders. The Explorer I borrowed for the weekend, Ford tried a bunt and failed. My F250 has 4 cup holders on the front of the arm rest-great idea. The Explorer, with it's large armrest put the gear selector in it - then only really had room for 2 cup holders (one in front of the other - like the Jeep or Bronco). What a waste of space. To make things work, apparently the gear selector on the armrest catches spills well-they have already discontinued that design due to the electronics problems. They did put a wireless charger in front of the armrest-but it was picky enough we never managed to get a phone to keep charging when on it. Anyway, suggestion for Scout. A lot of us use vacuum insulated cups while driving. 4 front seat cup holders is better than 2.
 
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All the vehicles were at the house today, so got out a tape measure. Wrangler center console is about 7", Explorer and F250 are 12". Well my hips are a bit wider that that, but the difference will allow a bench seat to work (although the only real reason I want the bench is dog room not hip room - none of my dogs really fit in a captains chair well).

Now less technical - upholders. The Explorer I borrowed for the weekend, Ford tried a bunt and failed. My F250 has 4 cup holders on the front of the arm rest-great idea. The Explorer, with it's large armrest put the gear selector in it - then only really had room for 2 cup holders (one in front of the other - like the Jeep or Bronco). What a waste of space. To make things work, apparently the gear selector on the armrest catches spills well-they have already discontinued that design due to the electronics problems. They did put a wireless charger in front of the armrest-but it was picky enough we never managed to get a phone to keep charging when on it. Anyway, suggestion for Scout. A lot of us use vacuum insulated cups while driving. 4 front seat cup holders is better than 2.
Phone charging is something so many of them get wrong.

Just use Qi2 and be done with it. It will work with MagSafe and Androids that have cases with magnetic rings in/on their case. It can just stick out of the tray a little bit so it can work with all phones and case sizes, and that would give them a little room for cooling fans since phones often overheat and stop charging with poorly executed chargers. You would just need a cheap magnetic ring on your phone case to make it work and keep it centered.
 
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Phone charging is something so many of them get wrong.

Just use Qi2 and be done with it. It will work with MagSafe and Androids that have cases with magnetic rings in/on their case. It can just stick out of the tray a little bit so it can work with all phones and case sizes, and that would give them a little room for cooling fans since phones often overheat and stop charging with poorly executed chargers. You would just need a cheap magnetic ring on your phone case to make it work and keep it centered.
The circle needs to be lifted to accommodate the stupid camera bumps thats are never going away. So as our phones get thinner the bump surprisingly gets taller. Because it seems we can make super thin batteries but camera technology we have no idea how to make smaller. Like what?
 
The circle needs to be lifted to accommodate the stupid camera bumps thats are never going away. So as our phones get thinner the bump surprisingly gets taller. Because it seems we can make super thin batteries but camera technology we have no idea how to make smaller. Like what?
I might be able to put up with big camera bumps if I was getting the best camera on the market. But, that is not what's happening. I don't get why it can't be better integrated, flat.
 
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I might be able to put up with big camera bumps if I was getting the best camera on the market. But, that is not what's happening. I don't get why it can't be better integrated, flat.
The camera on one of my Androids takes up about 1/3 of the back of the phone. Its a PITA but the cameras are some of the best I have ever used.

Thats why I want those magnetic rings lifted up a little above the console or cubby surface, because phone bumps keep getting larger and it would make it work for a majority of them.
 
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The camera on one of my Androids takes up about 1/3 of the back of the phone. Its a PITA but the cameras are some of the best I have ever used.

Thats why I want those magnetic rings lifted up a little above the console or cubby surface, because phone bumps keep getting larger and it would make it work for a majority of them.
That should solve the wireless charging problems for a large percentage of today's phones. I am certain Scout is looking into giving us the best charging experience as possible.
 
I was thinking about my old Full Size Jeeps today. My 85 Grand Wagoneer was one of my favorite cars.

It had a barn find 401 I built in a dorm room over the winter after I blew the factory 360 engine up in the Colorado Rockies.

I put in a 270 cam, full MSD, 9.5:1 pistons, ported and polished heads, Holley Truck Avenger carb, forged rods, remote oil timing cover, etc. It would make the speedo wrap around and start over… allegedly.

It also got 9mpg with a 25 gallon tank offering around 225 miles of range. Smiles per gallon were really high though.

It also had a bench seat and shag rug carpet that the previous owner installed.
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I digress…


I asked Chat GPT to compare the dimensions of the Scout Traveler to the full size Grand Wagoneer and it was pretty shocking because I felt like that thing was a land yacht.

Great follow-up — let’s compare the Scout Traveler to the 1985 Jeep Grand Wagoneer, one of the most iconic full-size SUVs of its time.




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Scout Traveler (2026, estimated production model)


Modern full-size SUV with off-road design cues

Dimension
Value
Overall Length~194.0 inches
Width (w/o mirrors)~79.0 inches
Height~75.0 inches (unladen)
Wheelbase~121.0 inches
Ground Clearance~15.0 inches
Approach/Departure~33° / ~30°
SeatingUp to 6 (front bench optional)




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1985 Jeep Grand Wagoneer (SJ Platform)

Dimension
Value
Overall Length186.4 inches
Width74.8 inches
Height66.6 inches
Wheelbase108.7 inches
Ground Clearance~7.9 inches
Approach/Departure~25° / ~21°
Seating5–6




📏 Side-by-Side Summary


Feature
Scout Traveler
1985 Jeep Grand Wagoneer
Length~194 in186.4 in
Width~79 in74.8 in
Height~75 in66.6 in
Wheelbase~121 in108.7 in
Ground Clearance~15 in~7.9 in
Approach Angle~33°~25°
Departure Angle~30°~21°
Tire Size (stock)33–35” optional~29–30” stock




🔍 Key Observations




  • Size: The Scout Traveler is longer (+8”), wider (+4”), taller (+8.5”), and has a wheelbase nearly a foot longer than the Grand Wagoneer.
  • Off-Road Geometry: The Scout is vastly superior in ground clearance and off-road approach/departure angles, making it much more trail-capable out of the box.

  • Interior Room: The longer wheelbase and wider body likely translate to more usable space in the Scout, especially with the optional front bench for 6-passenger seating.


I’m sure seeing them in person will help but the size and scale is just something I struggle to visualize.

Side note: @Jamie@ScoutMotors it would be pretty dope if you guys had an Augmented Reality visualizer so people could see what their Scout would look like in their driveway or garage. Amazon and some other retailers have this built into their apps so you can look at an item in your room before you purchase it.

I am not aware of any car manufacturers offering something like that and it would be a great way to play with the visualizer/configurator to see what certain selections would look like without needing to drive to an Experience Center.






 

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