Help me decide BEV or EREV

[BartMan Terra Total EV]

I too thought that we would see specs soon, but after seeing the R2 roll out they didn’t get specs until March of this year. So what, about 2 or 3 months before deliveries will start to the general public. I think it’s going to be closer to delivery time, but I could be wrong.

I am not patient like you cure. Maybe I need to take a break for a bit because I know I am being negative Nelly. Just can't help think the Terra BEV is just on the back burner. Not hearing any new info on possible getting more then 350 or anything on the Terra. One thing for sure is I am not waiting until 2030.

 

[cyure]

I am not patient like you cure. Maybe I need to take a break for a bit because I know I am being negative Nelly. Just can't help think the Terra BEV is just on the back burner. Not hearing any new info on possible getting more then 350 or anything on the Terra. One thing for sure is I am not waiting until 2030.

We all have those days. I have my moments where I think my Scout will never get here. I just keep reminding myself that SMs goal is to sell as many vehicles as possible as quickly as possible. I just don’t see it being a full two years between models.

 

[SpaceEVDriver]

I am not patient like you cure. Maybe I need to take a break for a bit because I know I am being negative Nelly. Just can't help think the Terra BEV is just on the back burner. Not hearing any new info on possible getting more then 350 or anything on the Terra. One thing for sure is I am not waiting until 2030.

There are a lot of rumors going on, lots of ai-echo-chambering, and etc. I think it’s fair to lease an interim vehicle while waiting. We may end up doing so if we decide this winter that the Mustang can’t handle the snow.

 

[RodorW]

I am not patient like you cure. Maybe I need to take a break for a bit because I know I am being negative Nelly. Just can't help think the Terra BEV is just on the back burner. Not hearing any new info on possible getting more then 350 or anything on the Terra. One thing for sure is I am not waiting until 2030.

As BEV Terra reservation holder, I completely understand where your coming from

 

[cyure]

There are a lot of rumors going on, lots of ai-echo-chambering, and etc. I think it’s fair to lease an interim vehicle while waiting. We may end up doing so if we decide this winter that the Mustang can’t handle the snow.

What are you thinking of leasing?

 

[J Alynn]

What are you thinking of leasing?

And please tell us the science as well since I know you are a practical shopper first

 

[SpaceEVDriver]

We are cross shopping a lot of vehicles.

Top desires include:

• 8+ inches ground clearance
• AWD
• ~300 miles range
• < ~$50k
• Physical user interface
• Comfortable seats
• < ~190 inches long
• < ~72 inches tall
• < ~77 inches wide
• Decent DCFC charge rate (Mustang Mach-E like or better)
• Hatchback, SUV, or Crossover body

The vehicles in the list don't necessarily meet all of those desires. This list isn't in order of preference.

• Rivian R2
• Kia EV9
• Subaru Trailerseeker
• Subaru Uncharted
• Toyota BZ Woodland
• Toyota Highlander BEV
• Lexus RZ
• Polestar 3
• Used R1S or R1T (ha!)
• Used Gravity (ha!)

 

[cyure]

We are cross shopping a lot of vehicles.

Top desires include:

• 8+ inches ground clearance
• AWD
• ~300 miles range
• < ~$50k
• Physical user interface
• Comfortable seats
• < ~190 inches long
• < ~72 inches tall
• < ~77 inches wide
• Decent DCFC charge rate (Mustang Mach-E like or better)
• Hatchback, SUV, or Crossover body

The vehicles in the list don't necessarily meet all of those desires. This list isn't in order of preference.

• Rivian R2
• Kia EV9
• Subaru Trailerseeker
• Subaru Uncharted
• Toyota BZ Woodland
• Toyota Highlander BEV
• Lexus RZ
• Polestar 3
• Used R1S or R1T (ha!)
• Used Gravity (ha!)

I would be really interested to go along on your journey to see what you end up with. If you don’t mind, could you start a thread with your shopping journey.

 

[SpaceEVDriver]

I would be really interested to go along on your journey to see what you end up with. If you don’t mind, could you start a thread with your shopping journey.

Thread 'Shopping for a “new” BEV while waiting for the Scout Traveler BEV.'

Wednesday at 9:49 AM

I was asked to post about my shopping plans while we wait for the Traveler BEV.

Every 5 years or so we start looking at what our next vehicle might be. We don’t necessarily replace what we have, but we do start shopping. The Traveler BEV is likely to be our next long-term owned vehicle. But in the interim, we’ve found a couple of things we are starting to dislike about the Mustang Mach-E, which we’ve had for going on 4.5 years now.

First, we love almost everything about the Mustang. It’s been a great vehicle for us. It was, by far, the best vehicle we’d ever owned until we got the...

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[MaddMatt]

We are cross shopping a lot of vehicles.

Top desires include:

• 8+ inches ground clearance
• AWD
• ~300 miles range
• < ~$50k
• Physical user interface
• Comfortable seats
• < ~190 inches long
• < ~72 inches tall
• < ~77 inches wide
• Decent DCFC charge rate (Mustang Mach-E like or better)
• Hatchback, SUV, or Crossover body

The vehicles in the list don't necessarily meet all of those desires. This list isn't in order of preference.

• Rivian R2
• Kia EV9
• Subaru Trailerseeker
• Subaru Uncharted
• Toyota BZ Woodland
• Toyota Highlander BEV
• Lexus RZ
• Polestar 3
• Used R1S or R1T (ha!)
• Used Gravity (ha!)

My interim lease list is very similar - and we may end up just leasing another Ioniq5, ours has been great. Would be kind of cool if my March of 2024 R2 reservation got me any information beyond what's on the general website, the original plan was the R2 until the Scout was ready, but no information is coming from Rivian so far. Ioniq has to be replaced in December, so we still have a few months to decide.

 

[SpaceEVDriver]

My interim lease list is very similar - and we may end up just leasing another Ioniq5, ours has been great. Would be kind of cool if my March of 2024 R2 reservation got me any information beyond what's on the general website, the original plan was the R2 until the Scout was ready, but no information is coming from Rivian so far. Ioniq has to be replaced in December, so we still have a few months to decide.

Yeah, it would be nice if Rivian would put some R2s into their show rooms and let people test drive them.

 

[R1TVT]

Yeah, it would be nice if Rivian would put some R2s into their show rooms and let people test drive them.

They will do that, but they need to get through initial production and their first tranche of deliveries. There is likely limited urgency around test drives at this stage based on fulfilling converted reservations to orders and making deliveries, but Rivian is doing a ton of R1 test drives (and not just in show rooms). Once they get enough units through the line and out the door, they will also run "limited time pop-up events" all over the place. Soon, those locations will have R2's. The key is reserving your spot in advance. At least where I am, they have done Test Drives at Orvis locations, outdoor malls, Ski & Bike shops, Rivian Charging Outposts, etc. They will get there, but it will take time.

 

[maynard]

They will do that, but they need to get through initial production and their first tranche of deliveries. There is likely limited urgency around test drives at this stage based on fulfilling converted reservations to orders and making deliveries, but Rivian is doing a ton of R1 test drives (and not just in show rooms). Once they get enough units through the line and out the door, they will also run "limited time pop-up events" all over the place. Soon, those locations will have R2's. The key is reserving your spot in advance. At least where I am, they have done Test Drives at Orvis locations, outdoor malls, Ski & Bike shops, Rivian Charging Outposts, etc. They will get there, but it will take time.

And 2 years from now hopefully we'll be test driving Scouts! Yay!

 

[SpaceEVDriver]

They will do that, but they need to get through initial production and their first tranche of deliveries. There is likely limited urgency around test drives at this stage based on fulfilling converted reservations to orders and making deliveries, but Rivian is doing a ton of R1 test drives (and not just in show rooms). Once they get enough units through the line and out the door, they will also run "limited time pop-up events" all over the place. Soon, those locations will have R2's. The key is reserving your spot in advance. At least where I am, they have done Test Drives at Orvis locations, outdoor malls, Ski & Bike shops, Rivian Charging Outposts, etc. They will get there, but it will take time.

Oh, I know. I’m just impatient.