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Both.

I ain’t ashamed to admit I love hanging out with friends shooting the shit, having a good time.

 

[SpaceEVDriver]

I have a lot of acquaintances that play. I just never figured out how to enjoy it. Had a boss for a period that would pay me to build “sets” for whatever role play type game he played. It wasn’t D&D but one of those types. We all have our things-no shade

Custom-designed and built sets… Nice!
Semi-custom gaming tables were going for >$10k a pop a couple of years ago. I could never commit that kind of money, but I understand the appeal.

 

[maynard]

NASA hasn’t blown up a rocket on launch in 40 years. That happens every other launch attempt with the showman’s rockets.

NASA’s accomplishments have been nothing short of spectacular in my lifetime.
I could be wrong, but I believe most all of the accidents were caused by 3rd party design/manufacturing failures.
I have always believed that QA/inspection is almost more difficult than designing and building yourself…

 

[SpaceEVDriver]

NASA’s accomplishments have been nothing short of spectacular in my lifetime.
I could be wrong, but I believe most all of the accidents were caused by 3rd party design/manufacturing failures.
I have always believed that QA/inspection is almost more difficult than designing and building yourself…

It’s a super difficult thing.
Balancing risks is far, far more difficult than most people will even bother to comprehend.
One of the reasons the showman’s company has barely met any of his promises (he promised he would land rockets on Mars by 2016 and people by 2018, for example) is because complex systems fail in complex ways that are almost impossible to plan for or to predict. “Go fast and break things” only works a couple of times. After that, things keep breaking in ways you can’t understand if you don’t go smoothly instead of always pushing ahead.

This is one reason it’s weird to me people keep pushing to put SSBs (that don’t even exist) in the first generation Scouts. Transportation accidents are a major cause of injury and death in the US and people want to put untested components into a new batch of vehicles? And they want it to cost $30k?

 

[Mousehunter]

Not saying the showman has not had some failures (and some projects have certainly gone over his overly optimistic time budget) - but he is putting more tonnage into space than every other company and nation on this rock. Starship is a big step forward, but not long ago people were thinking that nobody could land a rocket on it's tail and reuse it till his company proved them wrong - and that company has done that spectacularly. One could also argue his company has done more for EV adoption in the US than any other company.

So much hate because he is considered a traitor to a political party.

Scout needs to be a 50 states vehicle. Not just a blue state vehicle. I hope (dare I say pray - guess those are also fighting words) they can stay enough out of politics to pull that off.

 

[maynard]

Not saying the showman has not had some failures (and some projects have certainly gone over his overly optimistic time budget) - but he is putting more tonnage into space than every other company and nation on this rock. Starship is a big step forward, but not long ago people were thinking that nobody could land a rocket on it's tail and reuse it till his company proved them wrong - and that company has done that spectacularly. One could also argue his company has done more for EV adoption in the US than any other company.

So much hate because he is considered a traitor to a political party.

Scout needs to be a 50 states vehicle. Not just a blue state vehicle. I hope (dare I say pray - guess those are also fighting words) they can stay enough out of politics to pull that off.

I apologize, I wasn’t trying to say that SpaceX or Tesla accomplishments aren’t also spectacular…. I just feel like NASA gets a bad wrap at times.
I think we forget that most of their accomplishments occurred during a time when technology was pushed to its limits for them to be achieved.

 

[Chuckles]

Anyone else enjoy the Apple TV show "For All Mankind"? Interesting premise of what would happen if the space race never ended and the Russians landed on the moon first.

 

[J Alynn]

It’s a super difficult thing.
Balancing risks is far, far more difficult than most people will even bother to comprehend.
One of the reasons the showman’s company has barely met any of his promises (he promised he would land rockets on Mars by 2016 and people by 2018, for example) is because complex systems fail in complex ways that are almost impossible to plan for or to predict. “Go fast and break things” only works a couple of times. After that, things keep breaking in ways you can’t understand if you don’t go smoothly instead of always pushing ahead.

This is one reason it’s weird to me people keep pushing to put SSBs (that don’t even exist) in the first generation Scouts. Transportation accidents are a major cause of injury and death in the US and people want to put untested components into a new batch of vehicles? And they want it to cost $30k?

Sad but true. What’s that F1 line-“slow is smooth, smooth is fast”. ???

 

[weavahVBC]

First thing I said when I saw it was, "No way Nasa built it, this is going way to smoothly."

That's funny - I was talking to some friends and asked "Did SpaceX build this?" because I would have been very scared for the on-board crew if yes.

 

[maynard]

Anyone else enjoy the Apple TV show "For All Mankind"? Interesting premise of what would happen if the space race never ended and the Russians landed on the moon first.

Sounds interesting - I don’t have Apple TV. I’ll try looking for it on other sources…

 

[cyure]

Go Rivian! We need this for our town!