Actual delay official and order of deliveries confirmed?

[J Alynn]

If it's the Nissan color I'm thinking of, that is a fantastic color. I've also recently fallen in love with Ford's new Marsh Gray color after seeing it on a Ranger Raptor at my local dealership.

I really like the marsh gray. Fell out of love with bronco after our issues but that color made me stop shortly after it came out as it caught my eye. And it you made Marsh gray metallic it would be close to the old Nissan color so you probably are thinking same thing

 

[J Alynn]

It's a concept from 2014(!) that Mini dusted off and presented in a new color.

Mini Almost Had Its Own Mazda Miata Rival

Mini contemplated building a stylish Miata rival, with a design by the Italian coachbuilder Touring Superleggera.

carbuzz.com

Thanks. I actually recall seeing that one before but completely forgot. I remember that rear long fin

 

[J Alynn]

The guys over at TFL like to complain, though we all do in our own ways and on specific things, the guys at TFL love, older cars and trucks. Which is why it’s frustrating to hear them complain about the removal of switches and buttons that aren’t necessary like in the Silverado EV it does not need a light switch. Dial knob is 90% of the people that will be driving. Will never touch the headlight settings. Same goes for a push button start EV does not need a start button you get in with your key foot on the brake. The vehicle turns on when you exit and leave with the key. It turns off, but they tend to complain about that because when they are shooting their videos and they leave the key in the vehicle usually because it’s not their vehicle, but they still like to complain about it and maybe that’s one or two of the guys over there at TFL but when they made their video saying goodbye, cause the buzz it was purely because of depreciation they had intended on keeping it to do a length review but scrapped that idea early because of depreciation and while I fully understand that they are a company so they have to put money first just something about the video didn’t sit right with me personally

I will say I know we’ve debated the push button start but the new forging video about sounds noted sounds with start button several times so I think it’s here to stay. I don’t mind it but guessing some of you won’t care for it

 

[RodorW]

I will say I know we’ve debated the push button start but the new forging video about sounds noted sounds with start button several times so I think it’s here to stay. I don’t mind it but guessing some of you won’t care for it

I don’t think it’s necessary so I’m hoping on Gen1 it’s either fully optional (as a purchase item on the order) or bypass-able in software having spent plenty of time in Rivian I Prefer to get in my vehicle be on, or wake up when I approach with the key and start the air/heat and initiate once I open the door, so all I need to do is buckle in and shift into gear

 

[Mousehunter]

Manual control over the lights is something is a basic necessity. At least my auto headlights need to be overridden almost nightly. When I am on a back roads or off roads - I want high beams at low speeds. When I am in town, I need low beams regardless of the speed. I use night vision on my ranch - I would love a blackout switch (I can always put IR lights on an AUX switch) - but that is probably asking too much (I am sure there are laws about disabling tail lights). But at least give me the option to turn off the headlights (and hopefully I can dim the displays as much as possible). But it is fun driving around the ranch without telling all the critters I am there with my headlights.

 

[RodorW]

Manual control over the lights is something is a basic necessity. At least my auto headlights need to be overridden almost nightly. When I am on a back roads or off roads - I want high beams at low speeds. When I am in town, I need low beams regardless of the speed. I use night vision on my ranch - I would love a blackout switch (I can always put IR lights on an AUX switch) - but that is probably asking too much (I am sure there are laws about disabling tail lights). But at least give me the option to turn off the headlights (and hopefully I can dim the displays as much as possible). But it is fun driving around the ranch without telling all the critters I am there with my headlights.

Auto headlights and auto high beams are two different controls, and when the guys at TFL complain it’s not because it’s some sort of necessity, it’s just to complain (at least for the one guy that did a lot of Silverado EV coverage) I don’t think a physical controller for headlights is a necessity, however I do think if an automaker is going to remove the controller and make digital it should be always on the screen and not buried in menus. 1 tap to open your options 2 to change it whatever you want (on auto or off) but the vehicle will always default to auto after being shutdown and booted back up, even with a physical controller like my car unless I have them manually turned on. As for screen dimming, I drive a lot at night, I’m interested to learn more and see more of Detox mode, in my car the center screen is always just a little too bright, and to turn it off without killing audio is buried deep in the menus

 

[Scout_Lookout]

Manual control over the lights is something is a basic necessity. At least my auto headlights need to be overridden almost nightly. When I am on a back roads or off roads - I want high beams at low speeds. When I am in town, I need low beams regardless of the speed. I use night vision on my ranch - I would love a blackout switch (I can always put IR lights on an AUX switch) - but that is probably asking too much (I am sure there are laws about disabling tail lights). But at least give me the option to turn off the headlights (and hopefully I can dim the displays as much as possible). But it is fun driving around the ranch without telling all the critters I am there with my headlights.

Well I think you're going to be in luck with SM, especially since they are partnered up with Rivian, I think we will (hopefully) see a lot of similarities that make Rivian ownership so great.

One of the things I absolutely love about my Gen 2 R1T is the adaptive headlights. The light coverage from the adaptive headlights is very impressive and when it blots out the light for on coming traffic and even actuates when turning or going around curves.

The part I think you'll like best though is the manual controls from the stalk, and yes you can turn them fully off, (or just run the parking lighting) at night while driving. I know this because I accidently did this while trying to switch between auto and trying to turn on the rear rain/fog lights (which btw disables auto high beams).

 

[RodorW]

https://community.scoutmotors.com/threads/cyure-goes-to-chicago-12-10-2025.7391/post-63969
At least based on what we can see in the concepts I’ve not seen a light controller, but obviously the concepts aren’t final, I don’t even think they actually have wiper blades

 

[cyure]

https://community.scoutmotors.com/threads/cyure-goes-to-chicago-12-10-2025.7391/post-63969
At least based on what we can see in the concepts I’ve not seen a light controller, but obviously the concepts aren’t final, I don’t even think they actually have wiper blades

They for sure don’t have a rear wiper and Jamie stated in an earlier post that’s a change that will be made and we will get one.

If the wiper control stays on the left that’s going to be something I will definitely need to get used to.

 

[Scout_Lookout]

https://community.scoutmotors.com/threads/cyure-goes-to-chicago-12-10-2025.7391/post-63969
At least based on what we can see in the concepts I’ve not seen a light controller, but obviously the concepts aren’t final, I don’t even think they actually have wiper blades

As analog focused as SM seems to be going I would be absolutely shocked, (and disappointed tbh)if we didn't get headlight controls.

 

[cyure]

As analog focused as SM seems to be going I would be absolutely shocked, (and disappointed tbh)if we didn't get headlight controls.

Let’s see if we can get an answer. Jamie@ScoutMotors do we know how the headlights will be controlled in our Scouts? Please and thank you!

 

[J Alynn]

https://community.scoutmotors.com/threads/cyure-goes-to-chicago-12-10-2025.7391/post-63969
At least based on what we can see in the concepts I’ve not seen a light controller, but obviously the concepts aren’t final, I don’t even think they actually have wiper blades

There are a number of things still missing

 

[Jamie@ScoutMotors]

Let’s see if we can get an answer. Jamie@ScoutMotors do we know how the headlights will be controlled in our Scouts? Please and thank you!

Not yet, but I expect there will be manual controls for certain things.

 

[RodorW]

As analog focused as SM seems to be going I would be absolutely shocked, (and disappointed tbh)if we didn't get headlight controls.

I don’t care if physical or digital, I’ll rarely touch it, but I do like rivians approach with it on a stalk, makes it more accessible for that need it

 

[Logan]

I don’t care if physical or digital, I’ll rarely touch it, but I do like rivians approach with it on a stalk, makes it more accessible for that need it

I have a buddy who skipped a purchase on a vehicle (updated Chevy Colorado IIRC), because they removed the headlight control, and burried it in a menu. So its totally a thing that people care about (at least some).

I'm also in that camp. Auto works fine-ish, until it doesn't. And when it doesn't, I don't want to deal with digging through a menu to find it (as you mentioned earlier).

I'm fine with knobs, dials, or stalks TBH. My most recent vehicles have all been on stalks, but whatever it is, doesn't really matter, as long as you can muscle memory it, while driving in the dark (which likely means reaching for it without being able to see it).

 

[RodorW]

I have a buddy who skipped a purchase on a vehicle (updated Chevy Colorado IIRC), because they removed the headlight control, and burried it in a menu. So its totally a thing that people care about (at least some).

I'm also in that camp. Auto works fine-ish, until it doesn't. And when it doesn't, I don't want to deal with digging through a menu to find it (as you mentioned earlier).

I'm fine with knobs, dials, or stalks TBH. My most recent vehicles have all been on stalks, but whatever it is, doesn't really matter, as long as you can muscle memory it, while driving in the dark (which likely means reaching for it without being able to see it).

There’s obviously a lot of variation by vehicle some of the ones I’ve seen with it in the screen. It’s always on the side of the screen next to the driver’s steering wheel so readily accessible you tap it once and the menu opens and then you choose off on an auto.

Though as far as finicky automatic lights, it’s not something I deal with in my current car but at the beginning of the month we went and got a Colorado for my father. It’s a 2015 and it’s automatic headlights Don’t like the shade(or maybe they like it too much?) more frequently turning on and off but our 2015 Volt doesn’t have that sensitivity issue.

And as far as automatic headlights when it’s raining because I’ve seen people mention it specifically on some of those TFL videos at least in my car when I turn the wipers to intermittent speed two after four wipes without being turned off the headlights turned on.

 

[speedrye]

I hate automatic headlights enough that I disassembled the light sensor on my current daily driver to modify it more to my preferences. It works 10x better than it did from the factory, but I still need manual control on occasion. I much prefer my older vehicles with a simple knob because they work correctly 100% of the time.

 

[04Ram2500Hemi]

I hate automatic headlights enough that I disassembled the light sensor on my current daily driver to modify it more to my preferences. It works 10x better than it did from the factory, but I still need manual control on occasion. I much prefer my older vehicles with a simple knob because they work correctly 100% of the time.

I like the auto headlights in my Ram, but it also has a control nob that I can manually turn the lights on and off with. Why Chevy buried the light switch for the new Colorado in the touch screen is beyond me. Just because 90% of the time my headlights are on auto, doesn’t mean I want to fight looking for the on/off switch when I need it. Just give me the nob!

 

[Logan]

I like the auto headlights in my Ram, but it also has a control nob that I can manually turn the lights on and off with. Why Chevy buried the light switch for the new Colorado in the touch screen is beyond me. Just because 90% of the time my headlights are on auto, doesn’t mean I want to fight looking for the on/off switch when I need it. Just give me the nob!

As a side note, while I am generally still wanting manual control of my headlamps (even though I do use auto more now than I did in the past).

I have found that I like the auto-highbeams feature on my Hyundais. I live away from town a bit, and the roads up here have no street lights. So high beams are used a lot. But there is still a fair bit of traffic, and the auto-high beams actually do a really good job of automatically going to low beams when a vehicle crests a hill/comes around a corner in front of me, faster than I could do it myself sometimes.

And importantly, its been reliable enough that I trust it, and also ... its possible to force it to highbeams on all the time.

 

[maynard]

As a side note, while I am generally still wanting manual control of my headlamps (even though I do use auto more now than I did in the past).

I have found that I like the auto-highbeams feature on my Hyundais. I live away from town a bit, and the roads up here have no street lights. So high beams are used a lot. But there is still a fair bit of traffic, and the auto-high beams actually do a really good job of automatically going to low beams when a vehicle crests a hill/comes around a corner in front of me, faster than I could do it myself sometimes.

And importantly, its been reliable enough that I trust it, and also ... its possible to force it to highbeams on all the time.

I wish my auto highbeams worked as well as yours - I have to disable it because I feel like it waits too long to switch to low with either on-coming or out-going traffic... :-(
Consequently - always disabled...