EREV initial release only?
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So far, so good! Amazing how quickly I became used to seeing a gas station and checking quickly if I need to fill up.
We've also had good luck extending a lease on a car when the timing didn't exactly match up.
I went back and rewatched the Jay Leno video on Scout, and I think I've narrowed down what's been bothering me about the press side of things with Scout. I'm clearly far more interested in BEV over EREV, but it seems like there's a preference to talk about the harvester model, which I do understand; it's newer tech with a lot of questions, but I think what's been bothering me is that after Scout answers those questions, it feels like we stick with the harvester. Where, after a question is answered, Scout is in a really good place to help start educating people on EVs. Answer the question and love the product, but then flip it, talk about why people have this misconception that they do, and bring some positive light to the BEV version. For example, when Jay mentions he doesn't understand why people wouldn't want the EREV, Scott does try to turn it back on him, but ultimately just says, "best of both worlds." Scout is in a very unique position as an EV start-up with a heritage name, and offering BEV and EREV, they could really start pushing away those misconceptions continued by the big brands (like Ford and Dodge). Get people in the door on these cool vehicles, but not let O&G get in the way of the EV.
Does that make sense? I have way too much time alone on the road to think and might just get a little lost, but I wanted to put this out there. I'm very excited for what's to come and can't wait to try and fit my Terra in the garage, but without more news, I'm just spiraling
Does that make sense? I have way too much time alone on the road to think and might just get a little lost, but I wanted to put this out there. I'm very excited for what's to come and can't wait to try and fit my Terra in the garage, but without more news, I'm just spiraling
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It totally makes sense. I started this journey with an EREV reservation and switched to BEV with everything I learned on this forum and with all this kerfuffle I’m now second guessing my decision.
The issue is the average consumer isn’t on a forum like this and so much of what’s in the news regarding BEVs is range anxiety and negativity. That’s hard to counter these days.
I’m very excited as well and doing my best to try not to spiral. The Scout will be my next vehicle. No ifs, ands or buts about it. I’m looking at it this way. If Scout has to sell a boatload of EREVs so they can be profitable and make my BEV then so be it. Or I just throw in the towel and get an EREV with 35s. Ahhh. Deep breath and one day at a time.
Now who wants to talk about their favorite color and why it’s PBY?
When Scout was just a small group of people making a business case in 2021, the entire automotive market was saying everything was going BEV by 2030. We built the business case around a BEV-only strategy and announced in 2022 that Scout would be returning.
Since then, EV adoption rates in our largest (and primary) market have turned out to be much slower than we and almost every other manufacturer expected - particularly in the full-size truck segment. Our forecasting and "reading tea leaves" is based on hard industry data and also looking at 150,000 reservations for the new Scout coming in at more than 85% EREV reservations. Ford sold 27,000 Lightning BEVs in 2025 (when incentives were in place for much of the year). In comparison, they sold over 800,000 non-BEV F150s. Rivian sold a total of 42,000+ vehicles in 2025 (again with incentives in place for most of the year). GM full-size BEV truck sales totaled 23,200. Compared to 925,650 ICE GM pickup trucks.
So we decided in 2024 to offer a range extender option built on the same electric vehicle platform we were already working on. Looking around the truck market right now, I think it is safe to say that was a smart decision. What we didn't expect was the EREV's take rate to be so high. As Scott said in an interview last week, we thought it might be 60/40 EREV/BEV. Instead, EREV reservations have continued to rise, reaching more than 85% of total reservations by the end of 2025.
So that's how we got here. And that's where the pressure to push to get EREV to market comes from. We are still utilizing Rivian's zonal architecture and software stack. Scott's comments last week were pretty clear: We intend to offer both BEV and EREV. The platform is the same for both BEV and EREV. The factory supports both. The assembly line supports both.
So there is a push to get EREV to market sooner rather than later. From a timing perspective, we will have to see as we get closer to production what the launch cadence is. There will also be additional data from 2026 BEV sales, and we can pivot fairly easily to meet market demands using the same platform and assembly lines. That flexibility is very intentional.
If you think about everything that has changed in the last 12 months alone, it isn't surprising that we have had to adapt to ensure our success.
I feel it's reasonable to say most of us completely understand where all this is coming from and that there's still plenty of time between now and a concrete plan.
However, I have one question.
Would Scout ramp up production and make more EREVs than it needs to start "flooding the market", or will Reservations (turned orders) come first? Even if BEVs are last on the list, knowing that Scout is willing to ensure those who have put down a deposit and are willing to wait, won't be set aside while Scout makes more EREVs than its confirmed orders.
Like I'm willing to wait my turn on the lowest reserved version, but if I'm still waiting and there's "ready to buy" Terra Harvesters, I'd feel a little hurt, and would probably look elsewhere unless the EREV all-electric range is 200+, because I can't deny that the Terra is one of the better-looking trucks I've seen.
This is the main takeaway I wanted to hear. Notice he said "get EREV to market sooner rather than later." He did not say "EREV first".
Based on everything I have seen, I am guessing that the initial plan was that the BEV would be released first and the EREV would follow much later (probably a year later), since the EREV is more complex. Now that they have reservation numbers that so strongly favor the EREV, they are pushing up the engineering work on the EREV so both can be released at the same time. They will have a bunch of early orders (from all of us), and they can use the orders to schedule what gets built first. So I don't expect Traveler to come significantly before Terra, or EREV to come significantly before BEV. I expect all the configurations to be delivered about the same time.
What I do expect to have an impact on delevery schedule is trim levels, or whatever they call them. They will likely have a fully loaded launch edition of some kind, and those that order it will get in the queue first. It makes sense to me that they would want to sell the highest priced models first - that seems pretty standard (and sucessful) in the auto market.
Exactly. They want to strike while the iron is hot so to speak and if others are seeing deliveries go out and are itching to get theirs I’m sure they will do everything they can to produce and deliver a quality product just as fast as possible.
Thanks @Jamie@ScoutMotors for providing context. I believe there are very few on this forum that would find fault with Scout's rationale for the pivot to EREV, even those with a clear preference for BEV and no love for gas powered vehicles. Data is data after all even if it may be predicated the US market's poor understanding of the benefits of EVs.
The pivot makes perfect sense. Scout is being responsive to market conditions but has the capability to adjust efficiently as sentiment changes. My concern is whether Scout's plans include dropping BEV altogether for the launch window which has been talked around but not addressed directly. Will the mix of initial deliveries mirror current interest? Or is Scout not intending to deliver BEV for the foreseeable future after launch until market conditions change. This, I think, is the question people really want an answer to. You mentioned the line supports both so a launch mix of 85/15 is feasible I would imagine.
By all means get the EREV out. You customers will be thrilled. I (we?) just want to know if it will be possible to purchase a BEV harvester in 2028. I guess more bluntly is Scout planning to closet BEV in favor of EREV.
I/We don't know the launch cadence yet as there are still a LOT of moving pieces.
I will say this to set expectations. This is a brand new factory that hasn't built any vehicles before. We have to bring everything online gradually to ensure we deliver a high-quality product. The initial ramp-up will be slower, then work its way toward full production capacity. That also means we won't launch every model and every trim at once. No manufacturer wants to spool up a brand-new factory and try to build two brand-new models for the first time. We have said Traveler is coming first, followed by Terra. We will likely have a few initial launch trims, but not all trims and options will be available immediately to keep things simple at the start. We will roll out new trims/options every month, working our way towards the full lineup. That process means some people who want a really specific trim or option might have to wait more than two years from now to get exactly what they want. If things go well and we can speed up production sooner than expected, those timelines will compress. Either way, we will communicate that to all of you as soon as we can. Yes, if we contact you to place an order early in production, it is fine to decline and wait. We will come back to you. You don't go to the end of the line.
And I'll say it again - I don't know the launch sequence or cadence yet.
I will say this to set expectations. This is a brand new factory that hasn't built any vehicles before. We have to bring everything online gradually to ensure we deliver a high-quality product. The initial ramp-up will be slower, then work its way toward full production capacity. That also means we won't launch every model and every trim at once. No manufacturer wants to spool up a brand-new factory and try to build two brand-new models for the first time. We have said Traveler is coming first, followed by Terra. We will likely have a few initial launch trims, but not all trims and options will be available immediately to keep things simple at the start. We will roll out new trims/options every month, working our way towards the full lineup. That process means some people who want a really specific trim or option might have to wait more than two years from now to get exactly what they want. If things go well and we can speed up production sooner than expected, those timelines will compress. Either way, we will communicate that to all of you as soon as we can. Yes, if we contact you to place an order early in production, it is fine to decline and wait. We will come back to you. You don't go to the end of the line.
And I'll say it again - I don't know the launch sequence or cadence yet.
I know you probably can't say, but I can still ask.I/We don't know the launch cadence yet as there are still a LOT of moving pieces.
I will say this to set expectations. This is a brand new factory that hasn't built any vehicles before. We have to bring everything online gradually to ensure we deliver a high-quality product. The initial ramp-up will be slower, then work its way toward full production capacity. That also means we won't launch every model and every trim at once. No manufacturer wants to spool up a brand-new factory and try to build two brand-new models for the first time. We have said Traveler is coming first, followed by Terra. We will likely have a few initial launch trims, but not all trims and options will be available immediately to keep things simple at the start. We will roll out new trims/options every month, working our way towards the full lineup. That process means some people who want a really specific trim or option might have to wait more than two years from now to get exactly what they want. If things go well and we can speed up production sooner than expected, those timelines will compress. Either way, we will communicate that to all of you as soon as we can. Yes, if we contact you to place an order early in production, it is fine to decline and wait. We will come back to you. You don't go to the end of the line.
And I'll say it again - I don't know the launch sequence or cadence yet.
By "trims," do you mean things like interior styles, and other factory-only features (paints, decals, and the like)
or do you mean things that might come later down the line, like accessories? Stuff that could be bought from Scout and added at home
And if it's the former, would we (the community) be aware of what's to come, or just have to roll the dice?
Thank you for the response! The expectations are reasonable and are realistic.I/We don't know the launch cadence yet as there are still a LOT of moving pieces.
I will say this to set expectations. This is a brand new factory that hasn't built any vehicles before. We have to bring everything online gradually to ensure we deliver a high-quality product. The initial ramp-up will be slower, then work its way toward full production capacity. That also means we won't launch every model and every trim at once. No manufacturer wants to spool up a brand-new factory and try to build two brand-new models for the first time. We have said Traveler is coming first, followed by Terra. We will likely have a few initial launch trims, but not all trims and options will be available immediately to keep things simple at the start. We will roll out new trims/options every month, working our way towards the full lineup. That process means some people who want a really specific trim or option might have to wait more than two years from now to get exactly what they want. If things go well and we can speed up production sooner than expected, those timelines will compress. Either way, we will communicate that to all of you as soon as we can. Yes, if we contact you to place an order early in production, it is fine to decline and wait. We will come back to you. You don't go to the end of the line.
And I'll say it again - I don't know the launch sequence or cadence yet.
Thanks for setting the record straight on this forum because this is where the most up to date, real information is coming from.
The transparency is appreciated even if it’s not always good news or what we want to hear.
Thank you, thank you Jamie. I appreciate your candor.I/We don't know the launch cadence yet as there are still a LOT of moving pieces.
I will say this to set expectations. This is a brand new factory that hasn't built any vehicles before. We have to bring everything online gradually to ensure we deliver a high-quality product. The initial ramp-up will be slower, then work its way toward full production capacity. That also means we won't launch every model and every trim at once. No manufacturer wants to spool up a brand-new factory and try to build two brand-new models for the first time. We have said Traveler is coming first, followed by Terra. We will likely have a few initial launch trims, but not all trims and options will be available immediately to keep things simple at the start. We will roll out new trims/options every month, working our way towards the full lineup. That process means some people who want a really specific trim or option might have to wait more than two years from now to get exactly what they want. If things go well and we can speed up production sooner than expected, those timelines will compress. Either way, we will communicate that to all of you as soon as we can. Yes, if we contact you to place an order early in production, it is fine to decline and wait. We will come back to you. You don't go to the end of the line.
And I'll say it again - I don't know the launch sequence or cadence yet.
There’s a lot of passion behind Scout, which is a good thing, but we all can get a little intense sometimes. I have a feeling situations like this will pop up from time to time but as long as the line of communication stays open we will come out better for it on the other side.
Ahh… more time to save for my Terra.I/We don't know the launch cadence yet as there are still a LOT of moving pieces.
I will say this to set expectations. This is a brand new factory that hasn't built any vehicles before. We have to bring everything online gradually to ensure we deliver a high-quality product. The initial ramp-up will be slower, then work its way toward full production capacity. That also means we won't launch every model and every trim at once. No manufacturer wants to spool up a brand-new factory and try to build two brand-new models for the first time. We have said Traveler is coming first, followed by Terra. We will likely have a few initial launch trims, but not all trims and options will be available immediately to keep things simple at the start. We will roll out new trims/options every month, working our way towards the full lineup. That process means some people who want a really specific trim or option might have to wait more than two years from now to get exactly what they want. If things go well and we can speed up production sooner than expected, those timelines will compress. Either way, we will communicate that to all of you as soon as we can. Yes, if we contact you to place an order early in production, it is fine to decline and wait. We will come back to you. You don't go to the end of the line.
And I'll say it again - I don't know the launch sequence or cadence yet.
Personally I’m willing to wait to get exactly what I want.
It’s not every day you get to configure the modern version of your childhood dream car and not be confined to “what’s on the lot.”
It’s not every day you get to configure the modern version of your childhood dream car and not be confined to “what’s on the lot.”
I hate that, what’s on the lot. For once in my life I want to get exactly what I want in a car!
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