Must haves to purchase…

[cyure]

@cyure - yeah, no surprise @SpaceEVDriver and others had a great answers, but for what it's worth, as a general rule, traditional AWD will outperform 4WD in regular, highway type snow driving.

Rear and Front lockers have no place in the snow and ice, (unless you're going for the Costco parking lot donut record) but in a traditional ICE vehicle, the ability to "lock" the center differential can be great to get moving again, in an icy/snowy situation. My daughter's Hyundai Santa Fe, for example, was great in the snow on the highway, but when traffic stopped on a steep hill, it could struggle getting going again - pushing the center diff-lock button turned it into a tank, up to about 25-30mph, where it automatically disengaged.

I'm quite certain that the engineers at Scout will create some technical wizardry that will be better than that, our current EV has a "snow mode" and after one winter I can tell you its GREAT when the weather turns bad. My future Scout will also allow for true 4WD/locking differential action for more technical, off-road situations, where traditional AWD gets quickly overwhelmed.

Personally, I don't use dedicated snows, I prefer to have just one set of tires at a time, so for an SUV or Truck I like a 3peak rated AT - currently running General Grabbers on my Xterra, which have been great in the snow and trails, and better on the highway than the Goodyear Duratracs they replaced - IF I had the space and time for an extra set of tires, then yeah, the Nokian Hakkas are my choice - we had those for a Jetta once and it was awesome.

Thanks! We had an Xterra back in the day.

As for tires I run DuraTracs year round. I have never switched tires for snow. And honestly we seem to be getting less and less snow lately here in Illinois, but I have two kids who work in healthcare and when the weather is bad the Jeep gets everyone to work so I need my Scout to do the same. Tires is actually a pretty big decision. They also have to look amazing as well as have great year round performance.

 

[SpaceEVDriver]

Thanks! We had an Xterra back in the day.

As for tires I run DuraTracs year round. I have never switched tires for snow. And honestly we seem to be getting less and less snow lately here in Illinois, but I have two kids who work in healthcare and when the weather is bad the Jeep gets everyone to work so I need my Scout to do the same. Tires is actually a pretty big decision. They also have to look amazing as well as have great year round performance.

IMO, if the Scout is even half as capable and well-engineered as suggested, it will outperform the Jeep in city snow and ice conditions by leaps and bounds.

When "normal" weather was reliable, we would get ~100 inches of snow during the season. My EVs, without any snow modes, and with the crappy OEM tires, outperform the Tacoma with all the 4WD capabilities and snow tires.

 

[pwrofgrayskull]

Good question. I think it comes down to the heat and where I live. In the summers, we average probably 98°. Even with reflective tint it still gets the car well over 160° inside so I generally have to have temp control on around hundred degrees. After sitting at work for 8 to 10 hours, I lose about 15% on my battery every day just sitting. I’ve had a couple of wranglers myself and there’s always something about the thin, hard top. That would be very hot on the head while driving. But the glass roof just seems to be that much more hotter than even the Wrangler poly roof. And one of my Teslas I tried the roof window shade that rolled back-and-forth and then the thought came to my mind is why I have glass at all. If all I’m going to do is cover it. I would just rather have a moonroof or retractable roof or a removable roof that have no glass. No science here just my own personal opinion and based on tens of thousands of miles of experience, I just don’t like the glass.

I’ve had the same experience and therefore will always stay away from a glass roof when I have a chance. I am not a fan after having first-hand experience with them in warm, sunny climates.

 

[Mousehunter]

I ditched the factory hard top on my LJ for a reinforced vacuum bagged fiberglass insulated one (decent composite company that makes their money elsewhere, but likes old Jeeps-I think they make their money off of racing sailboats). Not cheep, but it saves me probably 20 degrees or more. I really wish factory cars could offer better roofs for hot climates.

That said, I really, really wish they would stop forcing glass roofs down our throats in Texas. If you want any options, glass roof is included.

 

[LonnyMacD]

Some of this is Borrowed from SpaceEVDriver

• Traveler W/Harvester 500+ miles range
• Priced below $70k
• Less than 75 inches wide without mirrors (Tacoma width)
• AWD (or 4WD)
• 12+ inches ground clearance
• Large enough enclosed space for at least one person to sleep inside. I am 6’2”.
• Built by a company whose spokespeople/leadership aren't terrible to other humans.
• Heated/Ventilated seats,
• Glass roof (it’d be nice if that retracted). Bonus feature to make it a solar panel roof
• 5v/12v/120v/ plug-in options in the rear.
• We’re still in discussions over the bucket seat/bench seat decision.
• Room for my Irish Wolfhound baby (I have no doubt about this).

 

[SpaceEVDriver]

I’ve wondered about the bench seat before.

Will it be a true one-piece bench with all the awkwardness that comes with it? I don’t think I would be able to sit in the front if my partner was driving and the bench was one-piece. I would have my knees crammed up into the dash.

Or will it be a 40:60 driver : passenger split that allows the main sections to be at different distances from the dash? Or a 40:20:40 split with a fold-down console?

And what about back reclining angle? We all have different preferred angles for the back. Would the passenger have to give up their comfort to sit in the front? With a one-piece bench, I can imagine all kinds of uncomfortableness.

The Tundra had a bench that was 3 pieces and it worked fairly well, though I would have preferred to have a captain’s armrest on the right side of the driver’s seat. The fold-down console in the middle did an okay job.

I haven’t bothered to investigate any photos or statements about the bench, so apologies if these have all been answered.

 

[Chavannigans]

I’ve wondered about the bench seat before.

Will it be a true one-piece bench with all the awkwardness that comes with it? I don’t think I would be able to sit in the front if my partner was driving and the bench was one-piece. I would have my knees crammed up into the dash.

Or will it be a 40:60 driver : passenger split that allows the main sections to be at different distances from the dash? Or a 40:20:40 split with a fold-down console?

And what about back reclining angle? We all have different preferred angles for the back. Would the passenger have to give up their comfort to sit in the front? With a one-piece bench, I can imagine all kinds of uncomfortableness.

The Tundra had a bench that was 3 pieces and it worked fairly well, though I would have preferred to have a captain’s armrest on the right side of the driver’s seat. The fold-down console in the middle did an okay job.

I haven’t bothered to investigate any photos or statements about the bench, so apologies if these have all been answered.

Is would be pretty rad if the front bench could fold flat and butt up to the rear seat so you could have a big sleeping platform if you’re in a pinch.

 

[cyure]

I’ve wondered about the bench seat before.

Will it be a true one-piece bench with all the awkwardness that comes with it? I don’t think I would be able to sit in the front if my partner was driving and the bench was one-piece. I would have my knees crammed up into the dash.

Or will it be a 40:60 driver : passenger split that allows the main sections to be at different distances from the dash? Or a 40:20:40 split with a fold-down console?

And what about back reclining angle? We all have different preferred angles for the back. Would the passenger have to give up their comfort to sit in the front? With a one-piece bench, I can imagine all kinds of uncomfortableness.

The Tundra had a bench that was 3 pieces and it worked fairly well, though I would have preferred to have a captain’s armrest on the right side of the driver’s seat. The fold-down console in the middle did an okay job.

I haven’t bothered to investigate any photos or statements about the bench, so apologies if these have all been answered.

I had the same question going into Nats. I have attached the best pictures my husband took that I could find that show the bench. To me it looks like 40/20/40 split but we don’t have confirmation that I’m aware of that that’s how it will be in the production model.

Having seen both the console versus bench seat in person now I’m 100% console. It’s just so pretty that way and I think will be more comfortable for me.

 

[Chuckles]

It appears that the bench setup will undergo changes from concept to production. Wireless chargers and cupholders need to go somewhere, so perhaps a different dash? The center part will certainly have storage. It will be interesting to see what Scout comes up with.

 

[dreamweaver]

I’ve wondered about the bench seat before.

Will it be a true one-piece bench with all the awkwardness that comes with it? I don’t think I would be able to sit in the front if my partner was driving and the bench was one-piece. I would have my knees crammed up into the dash.

Or will it be a 40:60 driver : passenger split that allows the main sections to be at different distances from the dash? Or a 40:20:40 split with a fold-down console?

And what about back reclining angle? We all have different preferred angles for the back. Would the passenger have to give up their comfort to sit in the front? With a one-piece bench, I can imagine all kinds of uncomfortableness.

The Tundra had a bench that was 3 pieces and it worked fairly well, though I would have preferred to have a captain’s armrest on the right side of the driver’s seat. The fold-down console in the middle did an okay job.

I haven’t bothered to investigate any photos or statements about the bench, so apologies if these have all been answered.

The 40:20:40 split would be the best. I might consider bench seating if it is. I really want/need a center console.

 

[Chavannigans]

I had the same question going into Nats. I have attached the best pictures my husband took that I could find that show the bench. To me it looks like 40/20/40 split but we don’t have confirmation that I’m aware of that that’s how it will be in the production model.

Having seen both the console versus bench seat in person now I’m 100% console. It’s just so pretty that way and I think will be more comfortable for me.



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To be fair we still don’t know what the front bench fold down arm rest/console even looks like yet. I trust they will do a great job with both.

Faith and Patience

 

[cyure]

To be fair we still don’t know what the front bench fold down arm rest/console even looks like yet. I trust they will do a great job with both.

Faith and Patience

You know it!

 

[J Alynn]

What if the Traveler is now sporting a bench seat at NYC. Ooohhh! Now I’m curious. Maybe they are swapping them around as part of the change?

 

[dreamweaver]

What if the Traveler is now sporting a bench seat at NYC. Ooohhh! Now I’m curious. Maybe they are swapping them around as part of the change?

 

[Mousehunter]

IIRC my Ford was 40/60. Looked like 40/20/40, but the center section would adjust with the the passenger side. Less complicated and expensive.

 

[jelshaug]

I’m easy to please:

1) Power fold exterior mirrors
2) heated steering wheel, seats, mirrors
3) under seat (or other clever) storage
4) Auto maintains climate (soft, quiet fans, multi zone, roof/pillar vents)
5) remote start (without a subscription)

Thank you.

 

[cyure]

I’m easy to please:

1) Power fold exterior mirrors
2) heated steering wheel, seats, mirrors
3) under seat (or other clever) storage
4) Auto maintains climate (soft, quiet fans, multi zone, roof/pillar vents)
5) remote start (without a subscription)

Thank you.

Welcome to the community! That’s a good list.

 

[dreamweaver]

I’m easy to please:

1) Power fold exterior mirrors
2) heated steering wheel, seats, mirrors
3) under seat (or other clever) storage
4) Auto maintains climate (soft, quiet fans, multi zone, roof/pillar vents)
5) remote start (without a subscription)

Thank you.

Scout. “People. Connections. Community. Authenticity." Welcome to the Scout community. Enjoy the ride.
Remember the built in search on the forums is a great place to start getting answers to your many questions.

 

[J Alynn]

I’m easy to please:

1) Power fold exterior mirrors
2) heated steering wheel, seats, mirrors
3) under seat (or other clever) storage
4) Auto maintains climate (soft, quiet fans, multi zone, roof/pillar vents)
5) remote start (without a subscription)

Thank you.

Welcome to the forum and thanks for posting your thoughts. Enjoy the wealth of knowledge the forum has to offer

 

[6-ScoutFamily]

Welcome.

I think VWs $10B investment in Rivian and billions into Scout pushes this out of the vaporware category.

A lot of EV startups fail because they run out of liquidity, and VW has plenty of cash and credit available to it to keep things on track.

I agree. Undercapitalization causes 90% of start-up business failures. That doesn’t mean Scout wont fail, but they seem to have a good foundation.