But you forgot the Hummer
One feature that made you pull the the trigger on a reservationā¦.
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You mean forget the hummer. Right?But you forgot the Hummer
It seems as though everyone that drives Hummers looks like this...
I would say the canvas roof option so that it can have a truly open air top for mountain days here in Colorado. Thatās something extremely unique for EVs (Rivian doesnāt even have a retractable sunroof).
Oh. Isnāt that the gentleman that is a chef but hasnāt actually cooked on the food network for at least 5 years. Who wouldāve ever thought celebrity chefs that DONT cook could be millionaires. Some days I wondered if I turned down the wrong road in life. How to be an architect and not design but get rich. (Successful frivolous lawsuits I guess)It seems as though everyone that drives Hummers looks like this...View attachment 6468Sorry Guy Fieri
This - I learned to drive in an SSII
Traditional I-H Scout vs Scout appearance, lift/tire size, harvester extended range. I have been looking at Tesla, Lucid, Rivian, and now Scout. Scout reveal appears to show a high-end model. On par with Rivian RT1 which I test drove. Excited to see Scout in person. Hopefully Scout will follow Rivian's standard and offer concierge introduction / review at your personal residence. Rivian (Richmond, VA) offered this concierge diamond level service to reservation holders. Definitely want to know if solid-state battery technology is coming to Scout.
That would be really nice if they offered that service. Iām hoping to do a factory pick up but if I am not able to this type of delivery would be great.
As far as solid state is concerned, Scout is currently testing and engineering the vehicles right now. There is the video that was emailed to reservations holders showing drone shots of winter testing. Solid state is not far enough along to expect it to be in the Scouts. Maybe someday who knows but for the Traveler I have placed my reservation on I am not expecting solid state at all.
I've been struggling with the decision of what to replace my 2016 Jeep GC with, as I do not "love" any current SUVs. If I like an exterior, the interior is awful. If the interior is passable, the exterior is just ugly. I always loved the old Scouts, but didn't start paying attention to the current rendition until the release in the Fall. The first time I saw it, the exterior struck me and I thought the company had perfectly balanced the retro looks with the modern design elements. But it was the interior that sealed my interest. The way the screen is integrated with the dash rather than looking like an afterthought. The use of physical buttons. Just all of it. Honestly, seeing it I finally felt like I loved a modern vehicle the way I do my 2006 LJ Rubicon and my GC.
All that said, I wasn't sold until I read about the Harvester. The Harvester pushed me to make my reservation. My GC can tow my LJ on an aluminum trailer. My next vehicle will have to do the same. As much I like the Rivian, the towing range just wasn't there. The Harvester option was supposed to solve this for me. Then the towing capacity was "announced" and I'm not sure where it leaves me. I may switch from EREV to BEV. I may cancel and settle elsewhere. Right now, I waiting out the official numbers to be posted. I really hope to end up owning a Traveler though.
All that said, I wasn't sold until I read about the Harvester. The Harvester pushed me to make my reservation. My GC can tow my LJ on an aluminum trailer. My next vehicle will have to do the same. As much I like the Rivian, the towing range just wasn't there. The Harvester option was supposed to solve this for me. Then the towing capacity was "announced" and I'm not sure where it leaves me. I may switch from EREV to BEV. I may cancel and settle elsewhere. Right now, I waiting out the official numbers to be posted. I really hope to end up owning a Traveler though.
Good luck with your choice. The Harvester is very popular.
I was curious, so I did a quick Google search to see if there was something that everyone else knew that I didnāt know about solid-state batteries, like if there had been some huge breakthrough or something recently, and it sounds like theyāre still nowhere near ready for prime time. Toyota has a solid-state battery that can charge a cool 1,000 times before degrading (that isnāt a good number) and they still short out and theyāre complicated/slow to make and thereās not yet a way to make them in scale. Itās going to be a minute or twelve zillion, it sounds likeā¦ kind of like how long it took for OLED screens to not be $20,000. Hopefully in our middle-aged lifetimes?
Itās like when years ago we were at Circuit City, tells you how long ago that was, and there was a small plasma TV way up high on the wall and it was $15,000 and now plasma TVs arenāt even a thing because they would die after a period of time. There has to be time to make sure something works. I picked the wrong DVD format back when there was HD DVD and Blue Ray. We had to buy a new player and rebuy all the movies. I donāt want to do the same thing with a car.
What Iām trying to say is I donāt want Scout to be an early adopter of something that hasnāt been tested enough. Keep going the direction they are going.
Great analogy and way to go remembering similar lessons. Too many people have short memories and are trend seekers.
Hey now, I bought a Panasonic plasma when Halo 3 launched in 2007 and my parents still use it to this day with no burn in!
All the TVs in my home are OLED now though. No burn in on those either. Just used conservative settimgs and never left static images on the screen.
To answer the main post... so many reasons.
I have never had an EV, but we decided to get e-bikes and scooters for the family last year and have loved it. It kind of put an EV in the back of my mind. I also started watching videos on the Stark Varg and thought it was really cool to see so much power with such little weight on a dirt bike.
The wife and I have been kicking around the idea of a new family road trip vehicle for a few years. My current Daily has 205k miles and she is racking up around 20,000 miles a year on her Honda Odyssey. Late next year we will be in a good financial position to buy one outright. So the timing is right.
Im a die hard Toyota/Lexus fan. I have had several Land Cruisers and Lexus GX SUVs. All of them got modified.... heavily. I have am a founding member of the local off road Toyota club with a few hundred members, but I feel Toyota has completely neglected folks like me in recent years. The Lexus GX550 has gotten very complicated with a twin turbo small displacement V6, and the biggest deal breaker is the fact that there is no 3rd row on the Overtrail models. So that means zero offroad features like Trail Turn Assist, rear locker, or EKDSS (sway bar disconnect) for larger families. Cargo space was also poor. Same thing with the new "Land Cruiser". The only real Land Cruiser Americans can buy is the Lexus LX700h Overtrail. It can be optioned with 3 rows, and most importantly its the only Toyota/Lexus vehicle with a factory front locker. The TRD Pro Sequoia front diff cannot be fitted with a front locker due to its design. The Lexus LX700h Overtrail MSRP is around $114k and dealers will be marking them up. They also come with a much smallerfuel tank than they previously did with a concerning 17.9 gallon fuel capacity.
I am also a old school gearhead. Had an 1985 Bronco, 1978 Ford Tall Boy, 1991 Suburban 2500, 1979 Cherokee Chief, and my first car was a 1985 F150. I built a performance AMC 401 by hand in a dorm room and swapped it into my 1985 Wagoneer in a parking lot during a Colorado winter after blowing the factory 360. Loved turning wrenches and doing the offroad stuff at a young age and have always had a soft spot for old school big bodies. I really wanted a restored Scout and thought they just oozed Americana, but they were just out of my budget. I love the modern spin on the Scout brand and think both new models are beautiful vehicles.
On the day Scout launched the annoucement video I opened the link right away and watched the whole thing. Pre-ordered a Traveler with Harvester while I watched. The Harvester got me on board with EVs since we dont even have sidewalks or cycle friendly roads where we live, let alone EV infrastructure. The 500+ mile range was also impressive. Perfect for offgrid adventures even if the weather isnt good enough for solar. The standout features were the entry price, front bench seat option, and the front locker with disconnecting sway bars (This had me sold instantly). Instant torque with all 4 wheels locked is going to be a game changer.
I dont think any other manufacturer is offering such a robust offroad focused EV vehicle for larger families. Even the Quad Rivians wont be able to outperform the Scout's design offroad if the specs meet reality. Software cant emulate true lockers or enhanced articulation.
The Rivian R1S is still on our radar because my wife likes the sportier appearance but is open to the Scout as well if the price is right.
I would still like to know a lot of details like water fording height with the Harvester generator, towing capacity with Harvester, and if both can be used for Vehicle To Home power since we often have outages with the weather here. But this community is awesome and I am looking forward to hanging out as we approach the launch and those questions are answered.
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