Speculation Alert - possible Harvester Engine Choices

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VW EA211 1.6 MPI 4 cylinder
AI believes it will be this or the EA888
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The EA888 2 Liter is a good engine. It's an iron block which is good for durability but heavy. The oil pan is also composite, but that can be changed. Direct injection carbon issues are a concern for me. Leaky water pumps and thermostat housings are known issues.
If the cooling system is integrated with the main battery, a water pump wouldn't be needed as there'd be an electric cooling pump somewhere else controlling flow. Technically you could do away with the thermostat as well if the cooling pump is variable speed and working in conjunction with the water temp sensors.
 
How long did Grok 3 take to come up with your solution?
When I asked Grok 3 with a rather vague request it still came up with EA211, EA888 and a somewhat less powerful 115hp EA113. Seems inline with what Scout has to work with. Scott did say "the four-cylinder naturally aspirated gasoline engine from the group"
 
I still struggle to visualize how in the heck an inline-4 will fit in the space provided. That's a pretty tall engine, even with a dry-sump oil pan. The distance from the cargo floor to me bashing it when rolling off a rock ledge is MUCH shorter than an inline-4, assuming it's standing vertically like most all do. Now, if you can turn the engine on its side with the cylinders running horizontally like a flat-4, I can see the space working much better. VW has plenty of experience with both, but I'll be really curious to see how in the heck the packaging works.

I don't recall, was an inline-4 specifically mentioned, or just a 4-cylinder? I still think a naturally-aspirated version of the 2.0l flat-4 from the Boxster/Cayman would fit into the space better and it's already a production engine. Some fueling/tuning tweaks and you'd be good to go.
 
I still struggle to visualize how in the heck an inline-4 will fit in the space provided. That's a pretty tall engine, even with a dry-sump oil pan. The distance from the cargo floor to me bashing it when rolling off a rock ledge is MUCH shorter than an inline-4, assuming it's standing vertically like most all do. Now, if you can turn the engine on its side with the cylinders running horizontally like a flat-4, I can see the space working much better. VW has plenty of experience with both, but I'll be really curious to see how in the heck the packaging works.

I don't recall, was an inline-4 specifically mentioned, or just a 4-cylinder? I still think a naturally-aspirated version of the 2.0l flat-4 from the Boxster/Cayman would fit into the space better and it's already a production engine. Some fueling/tuning tweaks and you'd be good to go.
Yes that does seem like size wise a much better fit. However, in it's standard use configuration it is a 300hp turbo charged unit. So, a little bit of work would need to done tailoring it to the Harvesters needs.
 
Yes that does seem like size wise a much better fit. However, in it's standard use configuration it is a 300hp turbo charged unit. So, a little bit of work would need to done tailoring it to the Harvesters needs.
Agreed, but I don't think the aforementioned EA888 or EA211 can physically fit vertically, and if they're angled or on their sides, they'll probably need even more work than detuning the 2.0 flat-4 MA2.20.
 
its most likely being mounted horizontally.
Yeah, but then the whole block casting needs to be re-engineered because the crank is no longer splashing through the oil in the pan and is no longer lubing the bearings. Starts defeating the purpose of using an existing engine.
 
Yeah, but then the whole block casting needs to be re-engineered because the crank is no longer splashing through the oil in the pan and is no longer lubing the bearings. Starts defeating the purpose of using an existing engine.
There are plenty of 2.0L dry-sump kits that work well. But between adding an oil tank and requiring some kind of take-off point I think this would just over complicates the design. But it is doable.
 
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