Wheelchair complication: 😥

[jordanlund]

Hello fellow Scouts! I put in my deposit on the Traveler with Harvester option ooooh, a while ago now. My primary concern was being able to haul my electric wheelchair, which measures 38" by 24" by 17".

It fit easily in the back of my Kia Sorento, my Audi Q7, my Son's Lexus, and my wife's VW Tiguan.

So it LOOKS like the Scout will handle it, no problem at all!

Naturally all in the last 30 days, everything has changed.

I got a cancer diagnosis 1/14. Surgery was 2/19 and seems to have been successful. I'm greatly limited on driving and lifting for the next few weeks, but should be ready to go before the Scout is ready to go!

While I was dealing with that my wife had an infection attack her spine resulting in a below knee amputation and emergency spinal surgery.

So now we find ourselves in a situation where we need to haul TWO wheelchairs at once. Mine for 2 heart attacks + cancer, hers for spine damage, paralysis and amputation.

I'm honestly not sure how we will do that. Hers requires a modification for the amputation, so will be slightly longer than the 38" on mine. 40"? 42"? Something like that.

If we put both chairs side by side, that's 48" wide.

I wish I had a top down diagram of both the rear cargo area and the "frunk" to see how we will make this work.

I really DON'T want to be forced to buy one of those therapeutic travel vans instead of, well, ANYTHING really.

Just because we're stuck with wheelchairs doesn't mean we don't want to get out and do things!

Is it possible to hook up with the Scout design team and see how we will make things work? The folks who did the Pacific Mist version did amazing work, are they willing to work on accessibility with a couple of wheelchair users?

 

[04Ram2500Hemi]

Hello fellow Scouts! I put in my deposit on the Traveler with Harvester option ooooh, a while ago now. My primary concern was being able to haul my electric wheelchair, which measures 38" by 24" by 17".

It fit easily in the back of my Kia Sorento, my Audi Q7, my Son's Lexus, and my wife's VW Tiguan.

So it LOOKS like the Scout will handle it, no problem at all!

Naturally all in the last 30 days, everything has changed.

I got a cancer diagnosis 1/14. Surgery was 2/19 and seems to have been successful. I'm greatly limited on driving and lifting for the next few weeks, but should be ready to go before the Scout is ready to go!

While I was dealing with that my wife had an infection attack her spine resulting in a below knee amputation and emergency spinal surgery.

So now we find ourselves in a situation where we need to haul TWO wheelchairs at once. Mine for 2 heart attacks + cancer, hers for spine damage, paralysis and amputation.

I'm honestly not sure how we will do that. Hers requires a modification for the amputation, so will be slightly longer than the 38" on mine. 40"? 42"? Something like that.

If we put both chairs side by side, that's 48" wide.

I wish I had a top down diagram of both the rear cargo area and the "frunk" to see how we will make this work.

I really DON'T want to be forced to buy one of those therapeutic travel vans instead of, well, ANYTHING really.

Just because we're stuck with wheelchairs doesn't mean we don't want to get out and do things!

Is it possible to hook up with the Scout design team and see how we will make things work? The folks who did the Pacific Mist version did amazing work, are they willing to work on accessibility with a couple of wheelchair users?

First off - Holy Crap! You and your wife have been through a lot! I pray that you and your wife continue to fight and recover. I simply don’t have the right words!

My father in law has been in a wheel chair for 45 years (helicopter accident). Would the Terra (truck) with a Bruno Lift be a reasonable option for you?

 

[jordanlund]

My father in law has been in a wheel chair for 45 years (helicopter accident). Would the Terra (truck) with a Bruno Lift be a reasonable option for you?

Yeah, it's been a lot to dump on us all at once!

The truck with a lift or a ramp is my backup plan if the SUV option falls through.

The only trick with the truck is we live in Oregon so we need some way to weatherproof the back. We can't leave electric wheelchairs exposed to wind/rain/snow.

I haven't seen any photos of the truck with a canopy on it, but I'm sure that could be done!

 

[04Ram2500Hemi]

Using Google Gemini

 

[SpaceEVDriver]

Ford and other manufacturers have upfitter and mobility modifier support programs specifically for these kind of modifications. I've asked a couple of times if there's a plan for Scout Motors to have such a program, but haven't heard anything definitive. It would be a shame if Scout doesn't have support for aftermarket modifications of this type.

 

[6-ScoutFamily]

Ford and other manufacturers have upfitter and mobility modifier support programs specifically for these kind of modifications. I've asked a couple of times if there's a plan for Scout Motors to have such a program, but haven't heard anything definitive. It would be a shame if Scout doesn't have support for aftermarket modifications of this type.

I can’t imagine they wouldn’t support this.

 

[SpaceEVDriver]

I can’t imagine they wouldn’t support this.

I can't either. But there's a difference between not opposing modifications and having an internal program meant to attract and support upfitters.

 

[TelemarkingSailor]

It's surprising that a program like that isn't required under the ADA, IMO.

 

[LastDayScout]

Hello fellow Scouts! I put in my deposit on the Traveler with Harvester option ooooh, a while ago now. My primary concern was being able to haul my electric wheelchair, which measures 38" by 24" by 17".

It fit easily in the back of my Kia Sorento, my Audi Q7, my Son's Lexus, and my wife's VW Tiguan.

So it LOOKS like the Scout will handle it, no problem at all!

Naturally all in the last 30 days, everything has changed.

I got a cancer diagnosis 1/14. Surgery was 2/19 and seems to have been successful. I'm greatly limited on driving and lifting for the next few weeks, but should be ready to go before the Scout is ready to go!

While I was dealing with that my wife had an infection attack her spine resulting in a below knee amputation and emergency spinal surgery.

So now we find ourselves in a situation where we need to haul TWO wheelchairs at once. Mine for 2 heart attacks + cancer, hers for spine damage, paralysis and amputation.

I'm honestly not sure how we will do that. Hers requires a modification for the amputation, so will be slightly longer than the 38" on mine. 40"? 42"? Something like that.

If we put both chairs side by side, that's 48" wide.

I wish I had a top down diagram of both the rear cargo area and the "frunk" to see how we will make this work.

I really DON'T want to be forced to buy one of those therapeutic travel vans instead of, well, ANYTHING really.

Just because we're stuck with wheelchairs doesn't mean we don't want to get out and do things!

Is it possible to hook up with the Scout design team and see how we will make things work? The folks who did the Pacific Mist version did amazing work, are they willing to work on accessibility with a couple of wheelchair users?

First, my heart goes out to you and your family. But, I am so glad you are thinking about the future and how to make life work. @cyure do you have any of your measurement photos of the Traveler with the back open? If so, I am sure our friend @jordanlund would appreciate it.

 

[cyure]

First, my heart goes out to you and your family. But, I am so glad you are thinking about the future and how to make life work. @cyure do you have any of your measurement photos of the Traveler with the back open? If so, I am sure our friend @jordanlund would appreciate it.

Oh my goodness I don’t know how I missed this thread. First I have to say I am so sorry for all you are going through, but your positive attitude and desire to continue with adventures with your wife is amazing!

Yes I do have a picture of the opening of the Traveler. Take it with a grain of salt however as the inside of the Traveler was dark and the iPhone had a little bit of trouble latching on to a starting and ending point.

 

[jordanlund]

Oh my goodness I don’t know how I missed this thread. First I have to say I am so sorry for all you are going through, but your positive attitude and desire to continue with adventures with your wife is amazing!

Yes I do have a picture of the opening of the Traveler. Take it with a grain of salt however as the inside of the Traveler was dark and the iPhone had a little bit of trouble latching on to a starting and ending point.

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That is indeed a huge help! OK, so at 42" it's about 6" short of putting them both in side by side, but if the rear seat folds, or can be removed (and it sounds like even Scout doesn't know that yet) I might be able to get the 48" I need front to back.

 

[cyure]

That is indeed a huge help! OK, so at 42" it's about 6" short of putting them both in side by side, but if the rear seat folds, or can be removed (and it sounds like even Scout doesn't know that yet) I might be able to get the 48" I need front to back.

Glad it was helpful. Also remember tho that is a concept vehicle and the production models could be different. Also it was like trying to measure a dark hole. So I for sure could be off by a bit. I hope it works for you and your wife and I wish you all the best!

 

[LastDayScout]

That is indeed a huge help! OK, so at 42" it's about 6" short of putting them both in side by side, but if the rear seat folds, or can be removed (and it sounds like even Scout doesn't know that yet) I might be able to get the 48" I need front to back.

That’s the width. Not sure how deep the cargo area is. But, I would say it’s all but certain the the seats will fold.

 

[J Alynn]

That is indeed a huge help! OK, so at 42" it's about 6" short of putting them both in side by side, but if the rear seat folds, or can be removed (and it sounds like even Scout doesn't know that yet) I might be able to get the 48" I need front to back.

I know at some point it was noted a sheet of plywood would fit so that’s 48” but probably overtop of the wheel wells which might place the chairs too height to clear the roof of the travelers

 

[J Alynn]

That’s the width. Not sure how deep the cargo area is. But, I would say it’s all but certain the the seats will fold.

Assuming you chairs are approximately 32-34” x 52”-ish it might squeak in with the rear seats folded. There is definitely more depth in the rear than most SUVs that are the 3-rows

 

[jordanlund]

I know at some point it was noted a sheet of plywood would fit so that’s 48” but probably overtop of the wheel wells which might place the chairs too height to clear the roof of the travelers

That's a possibility, we'll need to see it on the production vehicle. Put a platform on the wheel wells and then stack the chairs on that.

Lifting them, for me, is doable because I need the chair for distances.

Folded, my chair is 38" by 24" by 17". So as long as there's 17" of clearance above the wheel well platform, it should work.

 

[jordanlund]

Mine folds to 38" by 24" by 17", I can shorten the 38" by removing the control box, but the 24" is fixed, fender to fender left to right.

Sorry, sounding like a wheelchair salesman now! LOL.