What feature(s) do you hope that Scout does NOT include?

[nolen]

At least! I’m planning on keeping the Scout for at least 10. If I can get 15 out of her all the better.

I keep telling my husband we will keep the Scout and the Supra until we are too old to get down into the Supra and up into the Scout and then we get the champagne colored small SUV that 85 year olds drive. No offense to 85 year olds driving champagne colored SUVS.

My Flex is a 2010 and I'm hoping he makes it until I can get the Scout. Cars should last much longer than that for sure

 

[cyure]

My Flex is a 2010 and I'm hoping he makes it until I can get the Scout. Cars should last much longer than that for sure

He’s gonna make it. We aren’t accepting anything else!

 

[Chuckles]

Saw this article tonight. Kind of worries me about future scenarios. We’ve touched on this before but to see it happen in cars this new is frustrating.

https://www.carscoops.com/2025/05/acura-cuts-remote-access-features-acuralink-shutdown-july-2025/

The same thing happened with my 2019 Golf. It was designed for 3G. When the tech is sunsetted, it ends. I received a letter from VW a few months ago saying they had given up trying to find an upgrade solution. It happens with most systems. Onstar is over 25 years old and dead in older GM cars. A phone app can do many of the same functions these days, except perhaps the crash/SOS function. It is indeed frustrating, especially since the average age of a car on American roads is now 12 years.

 

[nolen]

He’s gonna make it. We aren’t accepting anything else!

283k miles and counting!

 

[cyure]

283k miles and counting!

That’s amazing! He will make it. I have confidence in him.

 

[Chavannigans]

283k miles and counting!

If it starts making bad sounds just put Rotella T6 in there and send it!

 

[Cranky Canuck]

The same thing happened with my 2019 Golf. It was designed for 3G. When the tech is sunsetted, it ends. I received a letter from VW a few months ago saying they had given up trying to find an upgrade solution. It happens with most systems. Onstar is over 25 years old and dead in older GM cars. A phone app can do many of the same functions these days, except perhaps the crash/SOS function. It is indeed frustrating, especially since the average age of a car on American roads is now 12 years.

We had a similar thing happen with our old LEAF. It was a 2012 with a GSM connection to the phone app and when the old GSM network was taken offline in 2017 we lost app connectivity. Nissan wanted some ridiculous amount of money to upgrade the modem to 3G but we took a pass on that. What was great was that the key fob for the Leaf had most of the functionality you'd want and the rest could be programmed in the head unit so even without the phone app it wasn't a big deal.

The Scouts need to be nearly fully functional without an app. The apps are nice but the vehicle needs to be usable without them. I'm hoping Scout does a more traditional auto thing and include a key fob. There needs to be redundancy, both electronic and mechanical, especially given these vehicles will likely be taken places well beyond cell service.

 

[cyure]

We had a similar thing happen with our old LEAF. It was a 2012 with a GSM connection to the phone app and when the old GSM network was taken offline in 2017 we lost app connectivity. Nissan wanted some ridiculous amount of money to upgrade the modem to 3G but we took a pass on that. What was great was that the key fob for the Leaf had most of the functionality you'd want and the rest could be programmed in the head unit so even without the phone app it wasn't a big deal.

The Scouts need to be nearly fully functional without an app. The apps are nice but the vehicle needs to be usable without them. I'm hoping Scout does a more traditional auto thing and include a key fob. There needs to be redundancy, both electronic and mechanical, especially given these vehicles will likely be taken places well beyond cell service.

I’m all in on team key fob. I don’t want just some credit card or phone app thing. Old school please. Im so used to having to put a key in the ignition I don’t know what im gonna do.

 

[cyure]

I’m all in on team key fob. I don’t want just some credit card or phone app thing. Old school please. Im so used to having to put a key in the ignition I don’t know what im gonna do.

My grandson is 4. Someday it would be really nice to pass my Scout down to him. I would like it to still be functional even tho at that point it won’t be able to be updated by SM due to its age I would imagine.

 

[Chavannigans]

We had a similar thing happen with our old LEAF. It was a 2012 with a GSM connection to the phone app and when the old GSM network was taken offline in 2017 we lost app connectivity. Nissan wanted some ridiculous amount of money to upgrade the modem to 3G but we took a pass on that. What was great was that the key fob for the Leaf had most of the functionality you'd want and the rest could be programmed in the head unit so even without the phone app it wasn't a big deal.

The Scouts need to be nearly fully functional without an app. The apps are nice but the vehicle needs to be usable without them. I'm hoping Scout does a more traditional auto thing and include a key fob. There needs to be redundancy, both electronic and mechanical, especially given these vehicles will likely be taken places well beyond cell service.

Right around the 22:00 mark

 

[cyure]

Right around the 22:00 mark

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Yay!

 

[Cranky Canuck]

Right around the 22:00 mark

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Thanks! I knew I saw a fob at some point! I imagine that's just a prototype and likely to change before final production but it's definitely a good start. Thanks for taking the time to find the pic.

 

[cyure]

Thanks! I knew I saw a fob at some point! I imagine that's just a prototype and likely to change before final production but it's definitely a good start. Thanks for taking the time to find the pic.

I like that’s it’s a different shape. So many are ovals. So a rectangle would be fun and different.

 

[J Alynn]

Right around the 22:00 mark

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There was actually 2 designs at the reveal the second is attached also saw this pic in my library and apparently forgot about it some unique merch ideas that we haven’t seen on the store-YET!

 

[Hedrock]

There was actually 2 designs at the reveal the second is attached also saw this pic in my library and apparently forgot about it some unique merch ideas that we haven’t seen on the store-YET!View attachment 6800View attachment 6801

I don’t see a remote start (though I guess that’s really only for HVAC, not engine warmup) so I hope that’s included on the fob.

Having to have an app to remote start (and pay a subscription) is not the experience I want to have.

Paging Scout - it would be nice to be able to put a carabiner or similar directly on the fob, instead of having to use keyrings. Please keep that hole big! Also, waterproof fob pretty please so I don’t have to think about it.

 

[cyure]

There was actually 2 designs at the reveal the second is attached also saw this pic in my library and apparently forgot about it some unique merch ideas that we haven’t seen on the store-YET!View attachment 6800View attachment 6801

Is that two different key fobs or the front and then the back? That’s kinda what it looks like.

And yeah I hope this means more stuff is coming to the Supply store. I see a few more things I would order for sure.

 

[cyure]

I don’t see a remote start (though I guess that’s really only for HVAC, not engine warmup) so I hope that’s included on the fob.

Having to have an app to remote start (and pay a subscription) is not the experience I want to have.

Paging Scout - it would be nice to be able to put a carabiner or similar directly on the fob, instead of having to use keyrings. Please keep that hole big! Also, waterproof fob pretty please so I don’t have to think about it.

Also a key fob glove. They make those hard plastic covers for key fobs. I prefer the one that basically a leather glove for your key fob.

 

[Chavannigans]

There was actually 2 designs at the reveal the second is attached also saw this pic in my library and apparently forgot about it some unique merch ideas that we haven’t seen on the store-YET!View attachment 6800View attachment 6801

Maybe they will let us customers choose lanyards that match the design elements we select on the interior.

 

[Chavannigans]

Is that two different key fobs or the front and then the back? That’s kinda what it looks like.

And yeah I hope this means more stuff is coming to the Supply store. I see a few more things I would order for sure.

It appears one is facing up and the other is facing down.

 

[Chavannigans]

I don’t see a remote start (though I guess that’s really only for HVAC, not engine warmup) so I hope that’s included on the fob.

Having to have an app to remote start (and pay a subscription) is not the experience I want to have.

Paging Scout - it would be nice to be able to put a carabiner or similar directly on the fob, instead of having to use keyrings. Please keep that hole big! Also, waterproof fob pretty please so I don’t have to think about it.

Maybe we will get lucky and they/we can map additional functions to the buttons.

Press unlock once to unlock driver door

Press unlock twice to unlock all doors

Hold unlock to roll down windows

Press lock to lock all doors

Press and hold lock to roll windows up

Double press and hold lock to “Start”