Scout Concepts in Scottsdale, Arizona, April 25, 2026

[cyure]

Well, we got to meet @Colton_Scout80 and @Hedges1 in person, but then the crowd started to get to me so we had to skip out. I’m bummed that we didn’t get to meet any other forum members.

I’m glad there were so many people there who seemed at least interested and not annoyed with a couple new vehicles at a classic car event.

Here are a few photos.

And a few thoughts. Note that the negative thoughts about size and a few other things are not very strong. Just more surprised than anything else. The biggest thing is that the vehicles, with the 35s and 37s and lifts are very big vehicles and are definitely imposing. The interior space is less than I expected.

The design detail is amazing.
I hadn’t noticed before that the screens are protected from the sun by the dash, which extends over an inch or three. This helps with glare and with overheating. Very well-thought-through.

The vehicles are HUGE for off-roaders. But the interiors seem smaller than their outsides would suggest.

The Terra’s frunk is about half the depth of the Lightning’s. (That’s a guesstimate—I forgot to grab my laser measuring device and the vehicles were roped off anyway).
The Terra’s back seat seemed shallower than the Lightning’s. I’m not sure where the space has gone.
The Terra (at least) needs a rear bumper with a flat surface for stepping. As equipped on the concept vehicle, the rear bumper is great for slipping off when you’re wearing muddy boots. It’s too narrow, too sloped, and too rounded.

The Traveler’s interior rear cargo space seemed narrower than the exterior width suggested it should be.

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I do like the appearance of both vehicles.

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With the broad shoulders of the Traveler, I expected a more roomy interior, but it is a bit skinnier than I had expected. I’m not sure how much that really matters, but I do feel there’s a bit less room inside than the exterior suggests.
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I can only speculate that the rear seats recline and that’s why there’s less space in the rear of the cabin than in the F-150. The interior quality seems to be a step or two above the Lightning Lariat’s.

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I really like the interior. The squared off circle steering wheel is much bigger than the one in the Lucid Gravity, so it’s much more functional. The bench seat with the open floor (maybe with some lips in the right places so a loose water bottle doesn’t come rolling under the driver’s feet) is nice.

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There’s no question that this is as big as the F-150. Taller with the 37s and “lift” on it.
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I really like the appearance!

But the utility of the bumper as a step is questionable.
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The frunk is a lot smaller than I expected. I’m not sure what it’s beautifying, but the utility of the space would be greatly improved by opening up at least six more inches, maybe even more.
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People would not keep their hands off the vehicles.

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Thanks for all the details.

 

[SpaceEVDriver]

Thanks for all the details.

The biggest thing we were talking about on the way home is that there’s no perfect, optimized vehicle to buy for our use-cases. So some kind of compromise would need to be made.

UX?
Size?
Wait time?
Etc.

I know the Scout is going to be a fantastic vehicle. It could very well be the best option for us when the BEV Traveler is available. We’ll definitely be keeping an open mind.

And we have no interest in the 35s, much less the 37s, nor a huge lift kit, so it’ll be and feel smaller when we finally get to take one for a test drive.

 

[J Alynn]

Here is a taste of what we saw.

The top right blue one with white top is really nice

 

[THil08]

Well, we got to meet @Colton_Scout80 and @Hedges1 in person, but then the crowd started to get to me so we had to skip out. I’m bummed that we didn’t get to meet any other forum members.

I’m glad there were so many people there who seemed at least interested and not annoyed with a couple new vehicles at a classic car event.

Here are a few photos.

And a few thoughts. Note that the negative thoughts about size and a few other things are not very strong. Just more surprised than anything else. The biggest thing is that the vehicles, with the 35s and 37s and lifts are very big vehicles and are definitely imposing. The interior space is less than I expected.

The design detail is amazing.
I hadn’t noticed before that the screens are protected from the sun by the dash, which extends over an inch or three. This helps with glare and with overheating. Very well-thought-through.

The vehicles are HUGE for off-roaders. But the interiors seem smaller than their outsides would suggest.

The Terra’s frunk is about half the depth of the Lightning’s. (That’s a guesstimate—I forgot to grab my laser measuring device and the vehicles were roped off anyway).
The Terra’s back seat seemed shallower than the Lightning’s. I’m not sure where the space has gone.
The Terra (at least) needs a rear bumper with a flat surface for stepping. As equipped on the concept vehicle, the rear bumper is great for slipping off when you’re wearing muddy boots. It’s too narrow, too sloped, and too rounded.

The Traveler’s interior rear cargo space seemed narrower than the exterior width suggested it should be.

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I do like the appearance of both vehicles.

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With the broad shoulders of the Traveler, I expected a more roomy interior, but it is a bit skinnier than I had expected. I’m not sure how much that really matters, but I do feel there’s a bit less room inside than the exterior suggests.
View attachment 15351

I can only speculate that the rear seats recline and that’s why there’s less space in the rear of the cabin than in the F-150. The interior quality seems to be a step or two above the Lightning Lariat’s.

View attachment 15343

I really like the interior. The squared off circle steering wheel is much bigger than the one in the Lucid Gravity, so it’s much more functional. The bench seat with the open floor (maybe with some lips in the right places so a loose water bottle doesn’t come rolling under the driver’s feet) is nice.

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There’s no question that this is as big as the F-150. Taller with the 37s and “lift” on it.
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I really like the appearance!

But the utility of the bumper as a step is questionable.
View attachment 15347

The frunk is a lot smaller than I expected. I’m not sure what it’s beautifying, but the utility of the space would be greatly improved by opening up at least six more inches, maybe even more.
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People would not keep their hands off the vehicles.

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I remember the benj saying that the greenhouse is tapered in by design. Probably why the interior felt smaller than the body suggests.

Thanks for the detailed review. Can’t wait to have mine in my drive way in a less than 2 years

 

[J Alynn]

Well, we got to meet @Colton_Scout80 and @Hedges1 in person, but then the crowd started to get to me so we had to skip out. I’m bummed that we didn’t get to meet any other forum members.

I’m glad there were so many people there who seemed at least interested and not annoyed with a couple new vehicles at a classic car event.

Here are a few photos.

And a few thoughts. Note that the negative thoughts about size and a few other things are not very strong. Just more surprised than anything else. The biggest thing is that the vehicles, with the 35s and 37s and lifts are very big vehicles and are definitely imposing. The interior space is less than I expected.

The design detail is amazing.
I hadn’t noticed before that the screens are protected from the sun by the dash, which extends over an inch or three. This helps with glare and with overheating. Very well-thought-through.

The vehicles are HUGE for off-roaders. But the interiors seem smaller than their outsides would suggest.

The Terra’s frunk is about half the depth of the Lightning’s. (That’s a guesstimate—I forgot to grab my laser measuring device and the vehicles were roped off anyway).
The Terra’s back seat seemed shallower than the Lightning’s. I’m not sure where the space has gone.
The Terra (at least) needs a rear bumper with a flat surface for stepping. As equipped on the concept vehicle, the rear bumper is great for slipping off when you’re wearing muddy boots. It’s too narrow, too sloped, and too rounded.

The Traveler’s interior rear cargo space seemed narrower than the exterior width suggested it should be.

View attachment 15346

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View attachment 15349

View attachment 15341

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I do like the appearance of both vehicles.

View attachment 15350

With the broad shoulders of the Traveler, I expected a more roomy interior, but it is a bit skinnier than I had expected. I’m not sure how much that really matters, but I do feel there’s a bit less room inside than the exterior suggests.
View attachment 15351

I can only speculate that the rear seats recline and that’s why there’s less space in the rear of the cabin than in the F-150. The interior quality seems to be a step or two above the Lightning Lariat’s.

View attachment 15343

I really like the interior. The squared off circle steering wheel is much bigger than the one in the Lucid Gravity, so it’s much more functional. The bench seat with the open floor (maybe with some lips in the right places so a loose water bottle doesn’t come rolling under the driver’s feet) is nice.

View attachment 15344

There’s no question that this is as big as the F-150. Taller with the 37s and “lift” on it.
View attachment 15345


I really like the appearance!

But the utility of the bumper as a step is questionable.
View attachment 15347

The frunk is a lot smaller than I expected. I’m not sure what it’s beautifying, but the utility of the space would be greatly improved by opening up at least six more inches, maybe even more.
View attachment 15352


People would not keep their hands off the vehicles.

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Thanks for all the pics and really appreciate the feedback. They are amazing vehicles and until you see them in person it is hard to gauge various elements which you put nicely into words

 

[nolen]

The biggest thing we were talking about on the way home is that there’s no perfect, optimized vehicle to buy for our use-cases. So some kind of compromise would need to be made.

UX?
Size?
Wait time?
Etc.

I know the Scout is going to be a fantastic vehicle. It could very well be the best option for us when the BEV Traveler is available. We’ll definitely be keeping an open mind.

And we have no interest in the 35s, much less the 37s, nor a huge lift kit, so it’ll be and feel smaller when we finally get to take one for a test drive.

My sister and her husband were there today too trying to figure out what car to get next. They want an EV but can't agree on which one. She likes the Traveller but her husband said it is "too truck-y" for him. He has a Tesla and would like another but she doesn't like the self driving stuff. They kind of like the Ioniq5 but she wishes it was higher like an SUV. I'm not sure where else to point them - I don't know if anything will work for them both.

 

[Indy]

Well, we got to meet @Colton_Scout80 and @Hedges1 in person, but then the crowd started to get to me so we had to skip out. I’m bummed that we didn’t get to meet any other forum members.

I’m glad there were so many people there who seemed at least interested and not annoyed with a couple new vehicles at a classic car event.

Here are a few photos.

And a few thoughts. Note that the negative thoughts about size and a few other things are not very strong. Just more surprised than anything else. The biggest thing is that the vehicles, with the 35s and 37s and lifts are very big vehicles and are definitely imposing. The interior space is less than I expected.

The design detail is amazing.
I hadn’t noticed before that the screens are protected from the sun by the dash, which extends over an inch or three. This helps with glare and with overheating. Very well-thought-through.

The vehicles are HUGE for off-roaders. But the interiors seem smaller than their outsides would suggest.

The Terra’s frunk is about half the depth of the Lightning’s. (That’s a guesstimate—I forgot to grab my laser measuring device and the vehicles were roped off anyway).
The Terra’s back seat seemed shallower than the Lightning’s. I’m not sure where the space has gone.
The Terra (at least) needs a rear bumper with a flat surface for stepping. As equipped on the concept vehicle, the rear bumper is great for slipping off when you’re wearing muddy boots. It’s too narrow, too sloped, and too rounded.

The Traveler’s interior rear cargo space seemed narrower than the exterior width suggested it should be.

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View attachment 15349

View attachment 15341

View attachment 15342

I do like the appearance of both vehicles.

View attachment 15350

With the broad shoulders of the Traveler, I expected a more roomy interior, but it is a bit skinnier than I had expected. I’m not sure how much that really matters, but I do feel there’s a bit less room inside than the exterior suggests.
View attachment 15351

I can only speculate that the rear seats recline and that’s why there’s less space in the rear of the cabin than in the F-150. The interior quality seems to be a step or two above the Lightning Lariat’s.

View attachment 15343

I really like the interior. The squared off circle steering wheel is much bigger than the one in the Lucid Gravity, so it’s much more functional. The bench seat with the open floor (maybe with some lips in the right places so a loose water bottle doesn’t come rolling under the driver’s feet) is nice.

View attachment 15344

There’s no question that this is as big as the F-150. Taller with the 37s and “lift” on it.
View attachment 15345


I really like the appearance!

But the utility of the bumper as a step is questionable.
View attachment 15347

The frunk is a lot smaller than I expected. I’m not sure what it’s beautifying, but the utility of the space would be greatly improved by opening up at least six more inches, maybe even more.
View attachment 15352


People would not keep their hands off the vehicles.

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You got some good pics. Thanks for sharing. Sorry we didn't meet. I did meet a couple others. And yes........people kept touching the vehicles. Think people, think. Sigh. I'm finally back in Los Angeles. I'm super tired from the drive but it was worth it.

 

[SpaceEVDriver]

My sister and her husband were there today too trying to figure out what car to get next. They want an EV but can't agree on which one. She likes the Traveller but her husband said it is "too truck-y" for him. He has a Tesla and would like another but she doesn't like the self driving stuff. They kind of like the Ioniq5 but she wishes it was higher like an SUV. I'm not sure where else to point them - I don't know if anything will work for them both.

Who will be the primary driver of it?

 

[SpaceEVDriver]

You got some good pics. Thanks for sharing. Sorry we didn't meet. I did meet a couple others. And yes........people kept touching the vehicles. Think people, think. Sigh. I'm finally back in Los Angeles. I'm super tired from the drive but it was worth it.

It’s a long drive. I do it around once a month or so (between northern Arizona and LA/Pasadena). Glad you made it back safely.

 

[nolen]

Who will be the primary driver of it?

I'm not sure - they are switching to just one car because he works from home and they are empty nesters now so I don't know where they will be driving. I would guess that he will be driving if both are in the car. She will probably be doing all the shopping by herself though.

I asked and it will be about 50/50, him more at night and her more during the day.

 

[SpaceEVDriver]

I'm not sure - they are switching to just one car because he works from home and they are empty nesters now so I don't know where they will be driving. I would guess that he will be driving if both are in the car. She will probably be doing all the shopping by herself though.

So they probably want a longer-range vehicle for road trips rather than adding a second vehicle that can work well locally but isn’t a road trip vehicle.
The R2 is a good in-between vehicle with a higher stance.
The Lucid Air or Lucid Gravity are both fantastic vehicles for road tripping and local driving, but are very expensive.
The Ioniq6/EV6 are more car-like than SUV-like.
The EV9 is a decent road trip vehicle that’s not too massive nor too expensive.
The Chevrolet Equinox is good too.
The Mustang Mach-E is a little lower and drives more like a sports car than an SUV.

 

[nolen]

So they probably want a longer-range vehicle for road trips rather than adding a second vehicle that can work well locally but isn’t a road trip vehicle.
The R2 is a good in-between vehicle with a higher stance.
The Lucid Air or Lucid Gravity are both fantastic vehicles for road tripping and local driving, but are very expensive.
The Ioniq6/EV6 are more car-like than SUV-like.
The EV9 is a decent road trip vehicle that’s not too massive nor too expensive.
The Chevrolet Equinox is good too.
The Mustang Mach-E is a little lower and drives more like a sports car than an SUV.

They would probably get the R2 except they don’t want to wait that long for the light colored interior and they don’t want the black leather to fry them. They’re new to AZ and still adjusting to the heat. I will pass the other suggestions on. They asked for opinions on the Subaru EV SUVs if anyone has them too

 

[SpaceEVDriver]

They would probably get the R2 except they don’t want to wait that long for the light colored interior and they don’t want the black leather to fry them. They’re new to AZ and still adjusting to the heat. I will pass the other suggestions on. They asked for opinions on the Subaru EV SUVs if anyone has them too

The Subaru and the Toyota are essentially the same vehicle.
They’re decent.
They have a good charge speed on DCFC, but it’s a little slower than what seems to be the expected charge speed.
They have a good range, but it’s a little below what seems to be the expected range.
They don’t excel at anything particularly well, but they’re not terrible.

The Lexus is a decent BEV as well.

With options for remote start and vented seats that allow cold air to circulate, they don’t really have the same concerns about heat in AZ (I’ve lived in AZ most of my life).

 

[nolen]

The Subaru and the Toyota are essentially the same vehicle.
They’re decent.
They have a good charge speed on DCFC, but it’s a little slower than what seems to be the expected charge speed.
They have a good range, but it’s a little below what seems to be the expected range.
They don’t excel at anything particularly well, but they’re not terrible.

The Lexus is a decent BEV as well.

With options for remote start and vented seats that allow cold air to circulate, they don’t really have the same concerns about heat in AZ (I’ve lived in AZ most of my life).

Thanks!! Hopefully they’ll find something that works for them both

 

[Colton_Scout80]

Well, we got to meet @Colton_Scout80 and @Hedges1 in person, but then the crowd started to get to me so we had to skip out. I’m bummed that we didn’t get to meet any other forum members.

I’m glad there were so many people there who seemed at least interested and not annoyed with a couple new vehicles at a classic car event.

Here are a few photos.

And a few thoughts. Note that the negative thoughts about size and a few other things are not very strong. Just more surprised than anything else. The biggest thing is that the vehicles, with the 35s and 37s and lifts are very big vehicles and are definitely imposing. The interior space is less than I expected.

The design detail is amazing.
I hadn’t noticed before that the screens are protected from the sun by the dash, which extends over an inch or three. This helps with glare and with overheating. Very well-thought-through.

The vehicles are HUGE for off-roaders. But the interiors seem smaller than their outsides would suggest.

The Terra’s frunk is about half the depth of the Lightning’s. (That’s a guesstimate—I forgot to grab my laser measuring device and the vehicles were roped off anyway).
The Terra’s back seat seemed shallower than the Lightning’s. I’m not sure where the space has gone.
The Terra (at least) needs a rear bumper with a flat surface for stepping. As equipped on the concept vehicle, the rear bumper is great for slipping off when you’re wearing muddy boots. It’s too narrow, too sloped, and too rounded.

The Traveler’s interior rear cargo space seemed narrower than the exterior width suggested it should be.

View attachment 15346

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View attachment 15349

View attachment 15341

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I do like the appearance of both vehicles.

View attachment 15350

With the broad shoulders of the Traveler, I expected a more roomy interior, but it is a bit skinnier than I had expected. I’m not sure how much that really matters, but I do feel there’s a bit less room inside than the exterior suggests.
View attachment 15351

I can only speculate that the rear seats recline and that’s why there’s less space in the rear of the cabin than in the F-150. The interior quality seems to be a step or two above the Lightning Lariat’s.

View attachment 15343

I really like the interior. The squared off circle steering wheel is much bigger than the one in the Lucid Gravity, so it’s much more functional. The bench seat with the open floor (maybe with some lips in the right places so a loose water bottle doesn’t come rolling under the driver’s feet) is nice.

View attachment 15344

There’s no question that this is as big as the F-150. Taller with the 37s and “lift” on it.
View attachment 15345


I really like the appearance!

But the utility of the bumper as a step is questionable.
View attachment 15347

The frunk is a lot smaller than I expected. I’m not sure what it’s beautifying, but the utility of the space would be greatly improved by opening up at least six more inches, maybe even more.
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People would not keep their hands off the vehicles.

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It was great meeting you today!