Re-think Headlight Design

[dleepnw]

I'm not a huge fan of the 4 array headlight design, looks too similar to the ones Porsche uses. Also kinda looks like a merge of the Porsche and Bronco lights. IMO, its not actually that distinctive/iconic.

I do really like how the DRL blends into the side/parking light and the light bar that wraps around the front/rear grille. Very distinctive.

More than that, I'm concerned about how they are inset and there is a "ledge" in front of each light. This is going to accumulate snow and cover the light. LEDs don't generate much heat so its going to melt off. This being an adventure vehicle, a lot folks who live in and travel to places where it snows are not going to be happy about this.

I'd recommend making the headlights flush so there is no ledge, having a heating element or maybe a washer (though this will be least effective).

Update:
Case study - Cybertruck with this issue. Scout, hope you’ve got a plan to accout for this: https://www.autoevolution.com/news/...cumulate-and-block-the-headlights-230818.html

 

[J Alynn]

But if you take @OleScout ’s headlight surround and add it to @speedrye ‘s grill I think that would be cool. But JMHO

 

[LastDayScout]

You inspired me to try a chrome grill design with the current headlights. View attachment 14245

There is certainly an opportunity for options and aftermarket. I could see something like this becoming available. Good job!

 

[LastDayScout]

Little too much jeep minus 1 grill between the headlight cluster but the headlight surround is exactly what I imagined with the other renders

Agree with this. I couldn’t put my finger on it, but yes it’s Jeepy. Outer bezels are great! How many different grilles were available on the Scout IIs over the years? I’m sure one of the original Scout gurus on here knows. I was a bunch anyway.

 

[LastDayScout]

I could see something like the horizontal slot grills being a good version to lean on for inspiration. Especially since the headlights are all horizontal. The grill could give the appearance of holes and depth with texture and color. I don’t think I would want anything thing other than what it’s supposed to come with from the factory. I say this because I want the best aerodynamic version I can get. However I completely understand the desire to modify, personalize and accessorize. Even though it’s not my thing, how many aftermarket grills are available for wranglers?

 

[OleScout]

Agree with this. I couldn’t put my finger on it, but yes it’s Jeepy. Outer bezels are great! How many different grilles were available on the Scout IIs over the years? I’m sure one of the original Scout gurus on here knows. I was a bunch anyway.View attachment 14254

Oddly this was the example I used for the prompt

 

[cyure]

There is certainly an opportunity for options and aftermarket. I could see something like this becoming available. Good job!

That’s how you end up with things like Angry Eyes Jeep grills.

 

[LastDayScout]

That’s how you end up with things like Angry Eyes Jeep grills.

You said it!

 

[J Alynn]

Agree with this. I couldn’t put my finger on it, but yes it’s Jeepy. Outer bezels are great! How many different grilles were available on the Scout IIs over the years? I’m sure one of the original Scout gurus on here knows. I was a bunch anyway.View attachment 14254

And look at all those colors

 

[J Alynn]

I could see something like the horizontal slot grills being a good version to lean on for inspiration. Especially since the headlights are all horizontal. The grill could give the appearance of holes and depth with texture and color. I don’t think I would want anything thing other than what it’s supposed to come with from the factory. I say this because I want the best aerodynamic version I can get. However I completely understand the desire to modify, personalize and accessorize. Even though it’s not my thing, how many aftermarket grills are available for wranglers?

Angry face grill (like Mrs Potato Head from Toy Story)

 

[J Alynn]

I could see something like the horizontal slot grills being a good version to lean on for inspiration. Especially since the headlights are all horizontal. The grill could give the appearance of holes and depth with texture and color. I don’t think I would want anything thing other than what it’s supposed to come with from the factory. I say this because I want the best aerodynamic version I can get. However I completely understand the desire to modify, personalize and accessorize. Even though it’s not my thing, how many aftermarket grills are available for wranglers?

Angry face grill (like Mrs Potato Head from Toy Story

Oddly this was the example I used for the prompt View attachment 14256

odd. With that grill -had AI cooperated your rendering g would have been a home run

 

[J Alynn]

Oddly this was the example I used for the prompt View attachment 14256

And the Scout logo would have read better. That’s a great avocado green BTW

 

[Huckleberry]

100% agreeing with the round or rectangle light preference - its one of those major aesthetics of a Scout.

 

[nowhaus]

That’s how you end up with things like Angry Eyes Jeep grills.

If you want to see angry, take a look at the current headlights and Grill of the Range Rover Defender!

 

[cyure]

If you want to see angry, take a look at the current headlights and Grill of the Range Rover Defender!

Oh I will have to check that out.

 

[Scout_Lookout]

Okay I used Gemini on a couple of the pictures my husband took at Nats and when we saw the Traveler in Chicago. I do agree that round would make the Scout lean Bronco and I think the grill would need to be different. I don’t think the round lights suit the grill but that just me.

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Cyure I love this for two reasons. Seeing it with round headlights makes me like the rectangular headlights even more!

However, what I really want them to have is amber DRL's because not only is it much more "truck like", but if you look at vehicles driving on the highway nowadays they almost all have white DRL's, but if you see a newer Kia or lower trim F-150 that has orange DRL's they stick out much more and are easily visible from a greater distances. Win-Win

 

[cyure]

Cyure I love this for two reasons. Seeing it with round headlights makes me like the rectangular headlights even more!

However, what I really want them to have is amber DRL's because not only is it much more "truck like", but if you look at vehicles driving on the highway nowadays they almost all have white DRL's, but if you see a newer Kia that has orange DRL's they stick out much more and are easily visible from a greater distances. Win-Win

Same, I’ve had round on my Wrangler for 13 years. I’m ready for a change!

 

[speedrye]

Same, I’ve had round on my Wrangler for 13 years. I’m ready for a change!

Same, 16 years of round lights on my Toyota. I thought I wanted round lights on the Scout until I started playing with the grill more. I was surprised to find how well the grill/lights worked for me on the current design with such minor tweaks. I'm handy enough to modify the grill myself if Scout doesn't offer something with a little brightwork.

 

[J Alynn]

Cyure I love this for two reasons. Seeing it with round headlights makes me like the rectangular headlights even more!

However, what I really want them to have is amber DRL's because not only is it much more "truck like", but if you look at vehicles driving on the highway nowadays they almost all have white DRL's, but if you see a newer Kia or lower trim F-150 that has orange DRL's they stick out much more and are easily visible from a greater distances. Win-Win

I will challenge that having seen them up close and personal and it is for one reason only. That DRL, presuming it is the larger side ones and nothing gets added, will look like it bends through the corner of the car/front and carries across the headlight cluster. If suddenly the front strip is white and side “drl” is amber the whole effect is ruined. I’m hoping the DRL stays headlight color and the turn signal bulb is amber colored. It’s the same as the rear. It’s a beautiful detail that truly can’t be fully appreciated until you see it up close and personal

 

[Scout_Lookout]

I will challenge that having seen them up close and personal and it is for one reason only. That DRL, presuming it is the larger side ones and nothing gets added, will look like it bends through the corner of the car/front and carries across the headlight cluster. If suddenly the front strip is white and side “drl” is amber the whole effect is ruined. I’m hoping the DRL stays headlight color and the turn signal bulb is amber colored. It’s the same as the rear. It’s a beautiful detail that truly can’t be fully appreciated until you see it up close and personal

I think this could become another one of those highly debated preferences, (like the round vs rectangle headlight) but I remember seeing somewhere the wrap around "pass through lighting" (although beautiful I agree) didn't make the final cut because COM was too high.

However I recall seeing the photo below of a Terra at night and I think the lighting was just too much white light for my liking and could really use some amber to break it up. Regardless though, there will be some sort of amber lightning on the side of the vehicle up front because of regulations. Again, I'm sure we all could debate it endlessly, but too each their own.

 

[cyure]

I think this could become another one of those highly debated preferences, (like the round vs rectangle headlight) but I remember seeing somewhere the wrap around "pass through lighting" (although beautiful I agree) didn't make the final cut because COM was too high.

However I recall seeing the photo below of a Terra at night and I think the lighting was just too much white light for my liking and could really use some amber to break it up. Regardless though, there will be some sort of amber lightning on the side of the vehicle up front because of regulations. Again, I'm sure we all could debate it endlessly, but too each their own.

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Honestly it’s different in every picture. I don’t have any idea what it’s really going to be in production.